Land access/banning

Ok, can I just say for the record that the new land access controls are horrible? I am so sick of flying around and hitting some giant cattle fence that appears out of nowhere because someone has decided to block their land. It is just silly.

Also, in Federal, someone has gone so far as to block the water through to the edge from the shore to a particular group - so you can no longer sail a boat through there. That is just obnoxious.

This is definitely not a welcome new feature.

I have to agree with you on this, I hate the blocks so much, I hate that I can't ride around in my Mariah hovercraft without constantly being bounced back by some stupid block. It just seems silly. none of these are ever on land that I really care to do anything but pass through on and it seems silly that I have to take so much time to find my way around them now.

I agree! I can understand why someone would want to ban a specific person from their land (got griefers? ). What I can't understand is the banning of everyone except group members. Wouldn't you want other people, nice people, to visit you at home? Don't you want others to feel welcomed? How about wanting to show off your home/build?

I have seen many beautiful places that I wanted to take a closer look at. When I try to get closer I get bumped off because of land access. Oh, well...I guess I'll dwell somewhere else.

The idea of banning everyone but group members, I think was intended for people that want to work on a group project in privacy or secrecy. Also it is nice if scripters have the ability to lock people out when they are deep in scripting thought.

Yes I admit it is annoying at times, but think of this, It allows others to have a freedom from harassing, pokeing and prodding into their buisness, and in a world where solitude is not easy, it allows for those who want it to have it.

The problem with any feature be it small or large, helpful to all or only a few. Is that their will always be someone to abuse it.

Instead of saying it sucks, or please reomve it, or it is a bad feature, why not find a way or offer suggestions to make it better?


One idea I can come up with is, if the ban is in place for a certain period of time, have a tax charge for it....

So that way if someone wants to keep a ban up it will cost them. But if one is just working on a project and needs or wants a temp ban on people its not going to cost.

Just like object tax. anyone (with the cash) can rez 1000 objects. but if they only need them out for a small period of time they don't get taxed if they are deleted.

How about access taxes? If you ban people, ya gotta pay a higher tax.

Yes, thats another reason I moved from my area in federal, that large red fence popped up and was a constant sight on my screen whenever i looked and moved towards it.

Thats an example of poor implimentation, or is it? If everyone did this, what a tragedy of our commons we would have. However, what if they put it up to be the home location of an exclusive group? Then it really becomes neat. However, the fence we are talking about is just over the water with no building happening at all.

So.. good feature, poor implementation?

Briana Dawson

The thing that *really* bugs me about this neighbor is that by him blocking that waterway, he blocks a lot of the only way to get to my property. My large place is on a tiny island, and you can only get there by flying or walking through water. This block will affect how people can get to my property from various directions. I'll have to have some friends help me test this out, but if this "block access" of my neighbor's is truely enough to make me feel that he is hindering others from getting to my place, then I will report him for TOS violation. I *hate* having to do that.

The only other option I have would be to move. But I don't want to have to do that. I get lots of visitors daily and my place has become a "hang out" of sorts. I love all my other neighbors, and it just stinks that one person can ruin the fun of so many others.

to fly over the blocks. It would be nice if the blocks could
only go so high.

They do; the blocks are only 40 meters high.

I agree with Darwin. Taxes for Banning.

I mean, in most situations there was already a 'ban others from your land' scripted object you could use.


On the other hand, you should be able to call in a linden to solve these problems. Putting up a blocked land just to keep people from crossing it is the same as building a wall of prims to keep people out, and if you did that it would violate the community standards.

DarkLife land in the Nth of DarkWood will always be public so come have a visit!

Drunk Pirate Cotton

I personally dont see a need to block access to your land, but I support the ability to do so. If people want to isolate themselves, that is their option, they pay to play just like we do. Their blocking their land removes the dwell bonus they might receive and it is their decision. I really wanted to see a nice build in Mauve, but I was not in their group and not allowed, so I just shrugged my shoulders and moved on.

We wanted this option, gives us the ability to sell passes to enter land for an event. Makes paying a "cover charge" an easy option. It gives us the opportunity to work privately when needed. If some decide they dont want us there 24/7, so be it, its their option. Just fly a little higher.

As for the "red fence", do away with it. Its an eye sore we dont need. We will know we arent allowed to be there when we slam into their invisible wall.

I slam into too many walls I do see. How about a small
marker on all sides with a warning Red Wall ahead.

Until recently, I also owned land in Federal, and know the blocks of which you speak. While it was not my reason for leaving, it did influence my decision, when I founf the blocks in question covered two sides of my house and part of a third!!!

Sorry to hear you had to move too Briana... that was a great (if prim-heavy) build you had there.

Sio

Thank you very much Sio, that was the talent of Lordfly Digeridoo.
Well, the red wall was the nail in the coffin. The Telehubs however, were what really ran me afoul and eliminated my ability to use Landmarks as a quick way to get to Moxie by teleport.

My new place is in Hawthorne. It's being built right now elsewhere, but I've laid out some measuring planks to get an idea of how long it will be (40m) and it's going to be a yacht, and we've thought of the perfect name for her.

You can spot my land in Hawthorne because I have large billboard picture of the yacht i'd like it to bebuilt there rotating very very slowly above the land, and also a giant shoebox taking up the space i will need so my build doesn't get locked out like in Federal.


Briana Dawson

Yes I was aware of that... I spoke to him a few times as he was building.

Still not found any land myself, but since I'm going to be joining a project in Blue, I may not need any... yet! You know me, I'll want to build something big soon enough!

Well I just had to put in my .02 here, I don't post much and I was just reading up on the boards when I saw this. I'm guilty of having land that can only be accessed by my group (half the time, they can't even get in). The main reason for my limiting access to my land is that, lately I've been building or trying to work on something when someone pops onto my land and shoots me in into outer space. Alot of time, since I really don't see alot of traffic, I don't put the restrictions down again.

I keep the walls up to keep myself safe lol, not to keep people from being able to move freely around Stanford or it's neighbor sims.

Last thing- since by restricting the land to a certain group or blocking them altogether don't you really take away the benefits of the whole dwell thing?

(sorry for my rambling just got home and I'm half asleep already )

Unless you're more than 90m or so from the edge of your land, a determined griefer can still shoot you into outer space.

Seeing the problems being caused with llPushObject, I'm starting to wonder whether it shouldn't be throttled back somewhat when applied to avatars.

There are other ways to keep from being shot at or bothered while building/scripting/thinking. Myself, I have a room in the top floor of my build. The door is phantom touched, but only I can trigger it. While I'm working on something someone might come and visit. If it's someone that is welcomed I tell them to come on up and I touch the door to let them in. I caught someone trying to get in once to bother, but he couldn't find the way and he left. I have to admit that it was fun seeing him bumping into the building trying to push the walls in.

Not that it isn't trivial to get through walls...

I don't understand why people who have blocks all around their property have voting machines.

I can see having a block up if you are working on something and don't want to be bothered. But afterwards, when you are done, wouldn't you want people to see it? for me half the fun of SL is just wandering around looking at people's builds.