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Hiro Pendragon

bye bye f0rums!

Join date: 22 Jan 2004

Posts: 5,905

03-13-2005 21:00

Okay, Linden Lab, I dare you.

Here's a technological solution to kill two birds with one stone: land scanners and part of land barony:

- Release land now sends an email to an email list.

Said email list is free to join.
Linden Hotline x-Post

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Kim Charlton

Registered User

Join date: 9 Feb 2005

Posts: 134

03-13-2005 21:32

From: Hiro Pendragon

Okay, Linden Lab, I dare you.

Here's a technological solution to kill two birds with one stone: land scanners and part of land barony:

- Release land now sends an email to an email list.

Said email list is free to join.
Linden Hotline x-Post

Very good idea. May I add a small technical improvement?

Just don't send around emails. Make it a feed (RSS or Atom; doesn't matter).

And ... as much as I like the solution. I fear that there is a lot of other interesting information that can be gathered with scanners. The solution you proposed may deliver valuable information to a lot of people who don't want to bother with scanner technology. I don't think it will put an end to self replicating scanners.

Hiro Pendragon

bye bye f0rums!

Join date: 22 Jan 2004

Posts: 5,905

03-13-2005 21:36

From: Kim Charlton

Very good idea. May I add a small technical improvement?

Just don't send around emails. Make it a feed (RSS or Atom; doesn't matter).

And ... as much as I like the solution. I fear that there is a lot of other interesting information that can be gathered with scanners. The solution you proposed may deliver valuable information to a lot of people who don't want to bother with scanner technology. I don't think it will put an end to self replicating scanners.

The land scanners are primarily the problem now. As LL has said that basically they won't likely act until things reach "critical mass", we can swipe up two current problems AND empower the player base AND help LL fill up people's land tiers sooner (more $$$) all with the cost of an email server and a short, small data send procedure inserted to the land release code.

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blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

03-14-2005 00:20

I have a better idea, don't make public land detectable by LSL. Make it return the same key for government land..

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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Adam Zaius

Deus

Join date: 9 Jan 2004

Posts: 1,483

03-14-2005 00:36

From: blaze Spinnaker

I have a better idea, don't make public land detectable by LSL. Make it return the same key for government land..

if(llGetRegionName != "Dore,Ahern,Luna"

llShout(0,"WOOO PUBLIC LAND!"

;

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Hank Ramos

Lifetime Scripter

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 2,328

03-14-2005 00:42

From: Adam Zaius

if(llGetRegionName != "Dore,Ahern,Luna"

llShout(0,"WOOO PUBLIC LAND!"

;

hehe.

But, there is "government land" (aka Linden Land) all over the grid.

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Eggy Lippmann

Wiktator

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 7,939

03-14-2005 01:17

I have a better idea. Remove the concept of public land. It serves no purpose.
Released land will go to Governor Linden, set for sale to its previous owner at $1/sq. m. for an hour or so, and then it will go to auction.

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blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

03-14-2005 01:37

Heh the problem with hiro's solution might be constant, mass pileups in sims with land released to public

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Jillian Callahan

Rotary-winged Neko Girl

Join date: 24 Jun 2004

Posts: 3,766

03-14-2005 01:45

I like this solution, especially with the RSS/Atom feed.

Plus, it gives SL a new job type, too: Realty Pouncer.

Mostly, I just like adding a useful tool to sove problems rather than removing useful tools. On that idea, Eggy's solution is also attractive as public land no longer serves any useful purpose that I can discern.

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Huns Valen

Don't PM me here.

Join date: 3 May 2003

Posts: 2,749

03-14-2005 04:26

From: Eggy Lippmann

I have a better idea. Remove the concept of public land. It serves no purpose.
Released land will go to Governor Linden, set for sale to its previous owner at $1/sq. m. for an hour or so, and then it will go to auction.

I think this is the best solution.

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Hiro Pendragon

bye bye f0rums!

Join date: 22 Jan 2004

Posts: 5,905

03-14-2005 11:44

From: Eggy Lippmann

I have a better idea. Remove the concept of public land. It serves no purpose.
Released land will go to Governor Linden, set for sale to its previous owner at $1/sq. m. for an hour or so, and then it will go to auction.

I believe this was discussed and rejected. That's why I proposed something else.

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Hiro Pendragon

bye bye f0rums!

Join date: 22 Jan 2004

Posts: 5,905

03-14-2005 21:25

/bump

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Elegant Technological Land Scanner Solution!
Hiro Pendragon bye bye f0rums! Join date: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,905	03-13-2005 21:00 Okay, Linden Lab, I dare you. Here's a technological solution to kill two birds with one stone: land scanners and part of land barony: - Release land now sends an email to an email list. Said email list is free to join. Linden Hotline x-Post _____________________ Hiro Pendragon ------------------ http://www.involve3d.com - Involve - Metaverse / Emerging Media Studio Visit my SL blog: http://secondtense.blogspot.com
Kim Charlton Registered User Join date: 9 Feb 2005 Posts: 134	03-13-2005 21:32 From: Hiro Pendragon Okay, Linden Lab, I dare you. Here's a technological solution to kill two birds with one stone: land scanners and part of land barony: - Release land now sends an email to an email list. Said email list is free to join. Linden Hotline x-Post Very good idea. May I add a small technical improvement? Just don't send around emails. Make it a feed (RSS or Atom; doesn't matter). And ... as much as I like the solution. I fear that there is a lot of other interesting information that can be gathered with scanners. The solution you proposed may deliver valuable information to a lot of people who don't want to bother with scanner technology. I don't think it will put an end to self replicating scanners.
Hiro Pendragon bye bye f0rums! Join date: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,905	03-13-2005 21:36 From: Kim Charlton Very good idea. May I add a small technical improvement? Just don't send around emails. Make it a feed (RSS or Atom; doesn't matter). And ... as much as I like the solution. I fear that there is a lot of other interesting information that can be gathered with scanners. The solution you proposed may deliver valuable information to a lot of people who don't want to bother with scanner technology. I don't think it will put an end to self replicating scanners. The land scanners are primarily the problem now. As LL has said that basically they won't likely act until things reach "critical mass", we can swipe up two current problems AND empower the player base AND help LL fill up people's land tiers sooner (more $$$) all with the cost of an email server and a short, small data send procedure inserted to the land release code. _____________________ Hiro Pendragon ------------------ http://www.involve3d.com - Involve - Metaverse / Emerging Media Studio Visit my SL blog: http://secondtense.blogspot.com
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	03-14-2005 00:20 I have a better idea, don't make public land detectable by LSL. Make it return the same key for government land.. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Adam Zaius Deus Join date: 9 Jan 2004 Posts: 1,483	03-14-2005 00:36 From: blaze Spinnaker I have a better idea, don't make public land detectable by LSL. Make it return the same key for government land.. if(llGetRegionName != "Dore,Ahern,Luna" llShout(0,"WOOO PUBLIC LAND!"; _____________________ Co-Founder / Lead Developer GigasSecondServer
Hank Ramos Lifetime Scripter Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,328	03-14-2005 00:42 From: Adam Zaius if(llGetRegionName != "Dore,Ahern,Luna" llShout(0,"WOOO PUBLIC LAND!"; hehe. But, there is "government land" (aka Linden Land) all over the grid. _____________________
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	03-14-2005 01:17 I have a better idea. Remove the concept of public land. It serves no purpose. Released land will go to Governor Linden, set for sale to its previous owner at $1/sq. m. for an hour or so, and then it will go to auction. _____________________ Help us document Second Life history at http://slhistory.org!
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	03-14-2005 01:37 Heh the problem with hiro's solution might be constant, mass pileups in sims with land released to public _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Jillian Callahan Rotary-winged Neko Girl Join date: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,766	03-14-2005 01:45 I like this solution, especially with the RSS/Atom feed. Plus, it gives SL a new job type, too: Realty Pouncer. Mostly, I just like adding a useful tool to sove problems rather than removing useful tools. On that idea, Eggy's solution is also attractive as public land no longer serves any useful purpose that I can discern. _____________________
Huns Valen Don't PM me here. Join date: 3 May 2003 Posts: 2,749	03-14-2005 04:26 From: Eggy Lippmann I have a better idea. Remove the concept of public land. It serves no purpose. Released land will go to Governor Linden, set for sale to its previous owner at $1/sq. m. for an hour or so, and then it will go to auction. I think this is the best solution. _____________________ [ huns? \|\| words \|\| 1TBS KREW \|\| VHI Aircraft \|\| Whitepaper on Aircraft Physics ] Make yourself and your objects immune to llPushObject().
Hiro Pendragon bye bye f0rums! Join date: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,905	03-14-2005 11:44 From: Eggy Lippmann I have a better idea. Remove the concept of public land. It serves no purpose. Released land will go to Governor Linden, set for sale to its previous owner at $1/sq. m. for an hour or so, and then it will go to auction. I believe this was discussed and rejected. That's why I proposed something else. _____________________ Hiro Pendragon ------------------ http://www.involve3d.com - Involve - Metaverse / Emerging Media Studio Visit my SL blog: http://secondtense.blogspot.com
Hiro Pendragon bye bye f0rums! Join date: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,905	03-14-2005 21:25 /bump _____________________ Hiro Pendragon ------------------ http://www.involve3d.com - Involve - Metaverse / Emerging Media Studio Visit my SL blog: http://secondtense.blogspot.com

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