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Blake Rockwell
Fun Businesses
Join date: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 1,606
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01-11-2005 14:17
I am a Peformer, me and the crew I've been working with; how does anyone propose to compensate us at Clubs even if there are any left? How are Entertainers and Dancers going to be effected?
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Alby Yellowknife
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,148
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01-11-2005 14:18
I am a Peformer, me and the crew I've been working with; how does anyone propose to compensate us at Clubs even if there are any left? How are Entertainers and Dancers going to be effected? They'll be making more money because everybody will rich once the L$ rises on the trading floor... |
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Shadow Weaver
Ancient
Join date: 13 Jan 2003
Posts: 2,808
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01-11-2005 14:18
here is how i will pay you...
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Anakin Skye
Jedi Master
Join date: 6 Nov 2004
Posts: 33
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01-11-2005 14:19
I have to tell you... i had a good laugh at all this posts from people saying they will leave... saying they will now lower their tier... they are foolish and weak.
Go look at GOM... your lindens are now worth more... Linden lab bought about 2.5 million lindens out of gom yesterday. Don’t you see it?... you are worried because you will get half or your stipend BONUS. But who cares if now your lindens are worth a lot more than they were before... I sell Lindens at GOM. and in the past days i was really concerned about the linden dropping so quickly... eventually. 1000 lindens would be equal to 3 dollars... 2 dollars... 1 dollar.... So according to this crowd, Linden Lab was supposed to wait and see how the value of the linden dropped?... Linden lab acted for the good of all of us… maybe you don’t see it now, but after a while you will understand the real purpose of this. Let’s see the following scenario… LL does nothing… the L$ keeps dropping until virtually anyone is rich… what do you have?... you will have unmotivated club owners… unmotivated builders and scripters… I know most of the people aren’t builders or scripters… or maybe they don’t have time to run a club… but trust me… clubs in second life are MONEY… clubs mean real money for the owners… and the tiny 1000 linden prices they offer on their events its just the tip of the iceberg… there are casinos inside the clubs, hundreds of vendors that pay weekly rents, not to mention escorts that are a great business… only those weak minded will stop hosting events because they wont get support from linden lab… the intelligent ones will keep hosting them… why? Because the real money is not in the prices… is in the people coming to your club, raising your dwell, buying from your vendors, playing your casino games, hiring your escorts… and then those people will bring more people… rinse… and repeat. Believe it or not SL is about real money… SL is a business, just like any other MMORPG… it is a business for those who own the game and furthermore the ability so sell your lindens makes it a business for the players as well… I got a good laugh a few minutes ago when Artillo Fredericks said “BREATHE PEOPLE!!! Your fake VR world money is going nowhere LOL”…. That was so funny… You see… the thing is that this is no longer fake money we are talking about… say that to me… I was able to purchase myself a REAL LIFE Nikon D70 Digital SLR Camera with my “fake money”. SL is a business and it should be run as such. If its not… then forget about the fun of clubbing and building the place will just disappear. LL needs to make money out of it… and they are offering us the chance to make money as well… Not everybody knows a computer language… not everybody is gifted enough to make amazing designs in Photoshop or perfect animations is poser… not everyone has the vision, knowledge and courage to start an escrow service like GOM and turn “fake money tradings” into real money… look they have traded over $0.7 million dollars worth of $L currency, and they charge something closer to 3%... so you do the math. I strongly believe Linden lab is doing the right thing by controlling the sinks and sources… and by controlling the money flow… and as any economist knows, there are plenty of ways of doing so. In any case… the market must be controlled if you want the economy to survive. You can look at this policy change, think and make profit out of it… or you can just leave… and let others make money… Anshe Chung just bought the pyramid mall in second life… see? She has vision… she knows how to take advantage of the fear of the crowd who knows nothing about the real thing. I joined SL for the fun of a MMORPG that would give me freedom I had nowhere else… soon… I realized I could create stuff… and sell… it… there I was… with a bunch of lindens… then… I realized I could sell those in order to make real USD. So there I was… having fun… metting new people… making creative things… and making real money… This is a good thing people… don’t panic… the linden is going up. And here is a real example for you… since I started warring about the linden dropping vs the dollar… I raised the prices at my vendors… now the linden is gaining strength… I dropped my prices in-world…. _____________________
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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01-11-2005 14:20
Clubs are not going out of business. The clubs that game the system and support their tier w/ the event money by paying the $500L prizes to alts and friends...they may have trouble.
Clubs are in SL to stay. We will see a reduction in the number of craporific events is all. _____________________
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Lo Jacobs
Awesome Possum
Join date: 28 May 2004
Posts: 2,734
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01-11-2005 14:20
Ummmm Anakin you don't need to post that whole darn thing more than once. Kthxbye.
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Blake Rockwell
Fun Businesses
Join date: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 1,606
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01-11-2005 14:26
Clubs are not going out of business. The clubs that game the system and support their tier w/ the event money by paying the $500L prizes to alts and friends...they may have trouble. Clubs are in SL to stay. We will see a reduction in the number of craporific events is all. I have 4 to 6 on my crew; how much you paying Schwanson for a Vegas Style Show Event? lol. _____________________
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Jay Knox
Founder Knox Enterprises
Join date: 29 Mar 2004
Posts: 187
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01-11-2005 14:32
Clubs are not going out of business. The clubs that game the system and support their tier w/ the event money by paying the $500L prizes to alts and friends...they may have trouble. Clubs are in SL to stay. We will see a reduction in the number of craporific events is all. Interesting how not one but 2 club owners (The LeveL and Punany - both quite successful) are posting in support of these changes. My club hasn't been my focus lately but it will stay open (revamp on the way) and the changes goign into effect DO NOT affect me at all. I have been holding events there since May and nothing being done is changing my business model. Actually i think the opposite will occur. I will not close my doors due to these changes and those that do will make my events that much more popular ![]() |
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Daemioth Sklar
Lifetime Member
Join date: 30 Jul 2003
Posts: 944
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01-11-2005 15:01
Clubs are the only part of the entertainment industry that won't crash, Blake. If you think about it, club owners are the only event hosts that have followers. You don't need to fork out money to get Dwell. And with SO fewer events in place now that events have been nerfed, clubs will make even more money from the Dwell they bring in. Cheer up, it's your lucky day if you're a club owner.
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Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
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01-11-2005 15:08
exactly my thoughts as well Schwan... Interesting how not one but 2 club owners (The LeveL and Punany - both quite successful) are posting in support of these changes. My club hasn't been my focus lately but it will stay open (revamp on the way) and the changes goign into effect DO NOT affect me at all. I have been holding events there since May and nothing being done is changing my business model. Actually i think the opposite will occur. I will not close my doors due to these changes and those that do will make my events that much more popular ![]() Lets see, well the owner of 3 isalnds and club owner is NOT In support of these changes, it has nothing to do with clubs IMO, what it does have to do with is new players and event hosts PERIOD... What about Bingo, Tringo, Trivia? All those are going to be gone, people can not afford to pass out prize money daily. _____________________
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Jay Knox
Founder Knox Enterprises
Join date: 29 Mar 2004
Posts: 187
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01-11-2005 17:19
Lets see, well the owner of 3 isalnds and club owner is NOT In support of these changes, it has nothing to do with clubs IMO, what it does have to do with is new players and event hosts PERIOD... What about Bingo, Tringo, Trivia? All those are going to be gone, people can not afford to pass out prize money daily. To everyone... If people in this community put as much effort into whining, over reacting, panicing, and protesting, they might have already come up with new ideas on how to be more successful and more satisfied in their SL. Sit back and think and stop being so reactionary. |
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Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
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01-11-2005 17:47
I think i just bit through my tongue holding my reply back Sensual. Honestly, if you have to rely so much on LInden support do you think you should own 3 private islands??? Just a thought, i cannot make assumption on a business I know absolutely nothing about - namely yours. To everyone... If people in this community put as much effort into whining, over reacting, panicing, and protesting, they might have already come up with new ideas on how to be more successful and more satisfied in their SL. Sit back and think and stop being so reactionary. Jay UNLIKE you, I am thinking of others here, not myself... try it sometime? _____________________
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Lance LeFay
is a Thug
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 1,488
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01-11-2005 17:54
I am a Peformer, me and the crew I've been working with; how does anyone propose to compensate us at Clubs even if there are any left? How are Entertainers and Dancers going to be effected? How about- Don't? Blake, clubs dont have the natural right to money. _____________________
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
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01-11-2005 20:07
I am a Peformer, me and the crew I've been working with; how does anyone propose to compensate us at Clubs even if there are any left? How are Entertainers and Dancers going to be effected? Uhm, who cares? It's NOT LLs job to ensure we make money when we play SL. _____________________
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
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01-11-2005 20:10
Lets see, well the owner of 3 isalnds and club owner is NOT In support of these changes, it has nothing to do with clubs IMO, what it does have to do with is new players and event hosts PERIOD... What about Bingo, Tringo, Trivia? All those are going to be gone, people can not afford to pass out prize money daily. They can if they charge folks to play and put half the income into the pot. _____________________
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Jay Knox
Founder Knox Enterprises
Join date: 29 Mar 2004
Posts: 187
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01-11-2005 20:16
Jay UNLIKE you, I am thinking of others here, not myself... try it sometime? ![]() |