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i was There..

Cybin Monde
Resident Moderator (?)
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
Posts: 2,468
03-13-2004 16:26
..and i left!

HOLY CRAP!!! what a freakin meat market!

my girlfriend and i just tried There.. instantly we were accosted by other There-heads.. "hey" "lookin good" *so&so wants to IM you* ... ACK!

..the singles scene has officialy invaded MMORPGs..

I've been There.. now i feel dirty..

wash me clean SL! wash me clean!
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Moleculor Satyr
Fireflies!
Join date: 5 Jan 2004
Posts: 2,650
03-13-2004 16:45
*spits on a rag* Ok, hold still.
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Darwin Appleby
I Was Beaten With Satan
Join date: 14 Mar 2003
Posts: 2,779
03-13-2004 16:50
Hehe, There-heads... I like that phrase.

But yeah, There really stinks IMO.
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Touche.
Christopher Nomad
Pontificator
Join date: 9 Aug 2003
Posts: 211
03-15-2004 04:47
And now you get to sit around for 30 minutes while THERE.... ALLL ONE POINT TWO GIGS EXTRACTED gets uninstalled off your hard drive.

Ugh.
Cybin Monde
Resident Moderator (?)
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
Posts: 2,468
no coubt..
03-15-2004 06:17
..and double ugh!

took forever to download, then a few more minutes to install and get running, then a few more to get into There..

..then about 2 minutes to decide it was a glorified chat room for singles and high-tail it outta there! ..lol
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"We, as developers, are doing the easy part – building the scaffolding for a new world. You, as the engines of creation, must breathe life into it."
- Philip Linden

"There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be."
- Willy Wonka (circa 1971)

SecondSpace (http://groups.myspace.com/secondspace) : MySpace group for SLers.
Garoad Kuroda
Prophet of Muppetry
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
Posts: 2,989
03-15-2004 07:34
Wow, sounds like one of those "teen" or whatever chat rooms.
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BTW

WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Kex Godel
Master Slacker
Join date: 14 Nov 2003
Posts: 869
03-15-2004 07:46
From: someone
high-tail it outta there!

That sounds like a good slogan :D
Snark Serpentine
Fractious User
Join date: 12 Aug 2003
Posts: 379
03-15-2004 09:29
I've been in There since January 2003, and here since August 2003. SL and There are very, very different animals. There concentrates on communications and creating a far more visually "friendly" environment, as well as already facilitating voice communication and a teleport/travel-friendly continuous world. It attracts a lot of people who, in the last generation, used AOL and were openly mocked. But it is also good for people who want a low barrier-to-entry, low learning curve environment for play and communications. SL's astounding flexibility doesn't attract their interest, because SL is "ugly" and difficult to use.

There is hindered because of the flood of members, correspondingly larger base of bad apples, and relatively small number of moderators. If you had a bad experience, that's too bad. If you don't like the paradigm, though, that's a vote with your feet situation and I'm happy to see creative demanding types happy here in SL. I'm in love with building, making avs, and (fledgling) script trickery.

However, from what I've seen, SL is starting to get a lot more "ur kyoot wats ur IM" types wandering around the world. Maybe it's because There's latest release is buggy, but more likely it's just more people hearing about it. As SL starts to get as much press (and it will) as There, this problem will keep growing. If (when) we see voice chat in SL, get ready, because the Lindens had better start handing out banhammers to a middle tier of enabled moderators.

"$10 to spend an evening aggravating members of some Intarweb geek hangout where I can fly around naked? Sold!"
Kex Godel
Master Slacker
Join date: 14 Nov 2003
Posts: 869
03-15-2004 10:43
From: someone
Originally posted by Snark Serpentine
SL's astounding flexibility doesn't attract their interest, because SL is "ugly" and difficult to use.


I bumped into two newbies on saturday who were RL sisters who hang out on There who were trying out SL.

They seemed like the very socialable more than technical types, but insisted on learning how attachments could be made. I tried as hard as I could to explain it very simply and not use too much technical terminology, but in the end I think they became overwhelmed and frustrated. I heard them talking with each other and my impession is that they will probably not become residents beyond their trial.

I'm not really expressing an opinion here, just relating a very recent experience which is an example of what Snark said.

What can we do to improve this situation so that people like them might have stayed? I'm not sure.

From: someone
Originally posted by Snark Serpentine
However, from what I've seen, SL is starting to get a lot more "ur kyoot wats ur IM" types wandering around the world. Maybe it's because There's latest release is buggy, but more likely it's just more people hearing about it. As SL starts to get as much press (and it will) as There, this problem will keep growing.

This is inevitable in any social group of humans. The same thing happens everywhere, especially online where there is an extra degree of anonyminity.

Fortunately, we have bootstrapped a good community which behaves maturely for the most part, who are very helpful to new people, and has a low tolerance for griefing activities.

The challenge now is to maintain as much of these positive aspects of our culture as possible while SL grows and and a wider variety of people and memes immigrate into SL.

From: someone
If (when) we see voice chat in SL, get ready, because the Lindens had better start handing out banhammers to a middle tier of enabled moderators.

According to the recent Town Hall with Cory Linden, they are working on voice chat. The transcript is on the forums here somewhere =)

The problem with "middle tier of enabled moderators" is that there is still an issue that started with one of the big MMORPGS (maybe it was EQ?) where one or more the "empowered residents" sued the game company for employment rights.

This act of greed has effectively cut off a very useful tool for companies who run MMO environments and games to delegate some CS responsibility to enthusiastic volunteers.

Due to that litigation, only the more daring of companies will risk implementing a system of volunteer empowerment again.

This is why the CS in most online games/environments is doomed to deteriorate as the world grows. I just hope that LL can find a way to keep up with the tide as the world continues to grow.

Perhaps they could enlist trusted volunteers who can filter through the majority of the problems and escelate anything requiring "divine" intervention directly to a Liason or someone who can take action. This will probably be a good compromise between empowered volunteers and providing a scalable system to maintain good customer service.
Carnildo Greenacre
Flight Engineer
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 1,044
03-15-2004 13:42
From: someone
Originally posted by Kex Godel
The problem with "middle tier of enabled moderators" is that there is still an issue that started with one of the big MMORPGS (maybe it was EQ?) where one or more the "empowered residents" sued the game company for employment rights.

This act of greed has effectively cut off a very useful tool for companies who run MMO environments and games to delegate some CS responsibility to enthusiastic volunteers.

Due to that litigation, only the more daring of companies will risk implementing a system of volunteer empowerment again.


Only the most daring of companies? Sounds like Linden Lab!
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