A French perspective on what constitutes an atrocity

Warning... this link is to an off-site page containing a picture which many will probably find offensive.

The caption provides the context.
"Photo dated 1957, taken during the French/Algerian war (1954-62). These two are believed to be Muslims who were French sympathizers. ...Scan taken from a book documenting wartime atrocities."
http://poetry.rotten.com/french-algeria/

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Nepal and France: Two Opposite Responses to Terrorism

I don't get your point?

If they were suspected French sympathizers wouldn't it be better to call it the muslim perspective?

Why the Muslim perspective instead of the Algerian perspective?

This might answer that question...

French general's torture fine upheld

Note, the general COULDNOT BE prosecuted for his personal knowledge of or approval of atrocities. He could ONLY be prosecuted for speaking about it in print.

I was citing the quoted caption. My apologies to all non-head chopping muslims and Algerians out there....


and WHOOF!...if he don't look evil...yikes!

So an American perspective would be:

http://www.cswnet.com/~dgh/11untitled.html
http://www.emax.freeserve.co.uk/israeli_atrocities.htm

or if you want to take the way back machine how bout these:

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/aap/photo06.jpg
http://www.eng.fju.edu.tw/ron/american_lit2/Images/images_files/lynchingPostC.jpg
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAdonaldM2.jpg
http://www.iwchildren.org/eagle1/lynch4.jpg

Should I go on? How many wrongs make a right by the way? How many more friggin people (and despite what you think non-americans are people) have to die in order to prove that America is the world power? These are not the only attrocities in the US either. How about the mass lynchings of asians in the west. Yes you are correct in saying that people world wide are sick but that does not take away from the fact that muslim men stood hands tied with electrical wires on their genitals and hoods over their heads. Your photos do not lessen the criminal brutality of the young man being sodomized by American gaurds with a light bulb. Do not look to history to justify our actions when we should be making sure those actions never happen again.

We already have all the garbage liberal anti-Bush perspectives we need elsewhere on the forums so your links are pointless to consider, discuss or respond to in this thread as they are obviously attempts at hijecks.

OTOH, I will answer you question in the manner in which it deserves to be answered (being a self-serving and self-righteous question which presumes an agreed-upon perspective within its obvious construction).....
As many as it takes.

There. Happy now?

That answer makes as much sense as your question does.


Oh. One other thing.. A large percentage of my RL friends happen to be non-Americans. But of course, you knew that, right?

This has nothing to do with liberal/conservative bullshit, Korg. You know that as well as I do. How are those links any more pointless than your link to a photo from the French/Algerian war. Give me a break Korg. I will not be happy untill you realize the absolute jerk that you are... spreading your elitist propoganda and your self aggrandizing malarchy.

So spare me your Whhaaa but the French did it, mommy bullshit.

http://billandkent.com/gallery/abu-gharib-torture-photos/iraqis_tortured_newyorker_i

Lest you forget. And do take a bit to go through the other horid and despicable acts commited under allegiance to the flag.

Hey.. by the first statement above, you are doomed to always being unhappy. Your choice, not mine.

The end of the first part above shows that you have no clue... and therefore rate little further atantion on my part.

As for the last one... thank God we ain't related except possibly a few hundred thousand generations back in the morass of history MAYBE. I would hate to have had to have been raised by someone who is as metaphorically blind as you. The relevance is absolutely on point. That you can't see it is nothing for me to apologize for.

I am blind? Where is your allegiance Korg..humanity or Bush's anus? You are really an idiot. You prove nothing but your own ignorance in the fact that you blindly negate the attrocities commited by America and only point out those commited by other nations throughout history. So I suppose next you're gonna bring up the egyptian slavery during Moses time gig huh.

You are the worst of this country. I only hope that people do not read your sentiment and think that all Americans are so narrowminded and obtuse. I am also very happy, in fact shooting sparks out my ass, that we are not related.

You have no point, my intellectual inferior...You display photos of a war gone by and at the same time state that those brutalized by US hands are of no consequence. You are a sad little man Korg.

Ohh and I do so love the way that you pull out specific sentences without actually answering to the entire post...how very christian of you.

How arrogant of you to assume I am a Crhistian and apply your standards of behavior and politeness to me.. especially when I have already posted that I have Jewish ancestry. Pay attention.

Ohh Jewish ancestory...and so do I...so maybe we are related.

And so are you a practicing Jew or do you just pull that card out when it benefits you?

To say that something is akin to the christian way is not stating that someone is christian...so you pay attention Korgmeister.

If we ever met...I bet the sex would be amazing.

Me? Blind? I don't think so.

OTOH, You obviously cannot read and love to put words in other people's mouths.

Where have I ever justified the behavior of the Abu Grahib (for instance) soldiers/guards?

Who says I have (or should have) any allegiance to humanity? You? And what gives you the final say on that issue? Why should anyone, much less me, "evaluate" or measure me against standards you set up?

I prove my arrogance? ROFLAMO. Reread your own post.

I am not surrprised that you can "shoot sparks out your ass".. but I would not have considered bvefore you brought that up. Most humans I know can't do that.

Your intellectual inferior? OMG. I am crushed. I can't go on. PLease.. never insult me like that again. I'll have to slit my wrists if you are ever so harrsh and cruel to me again. There's an old abbreviation that comes to mind. Look it up if you are unfamiliar with it. FOAD.

Oy vey.

First off reread that babe...


Nope, your own words did your grave for ya sweety you don't need help from me.


You post pics as if that somehow makes this whole war better...the pics are from the 1950's ....reaching back a bit huh? So if that wasn't your point, clue me in.


I don't set the standards, love, but you seem to care very little about the fact that the US has been party to some pretty hainous shit...Last time I heard lynchings and sodomizing with lightbulbs was bad.

I'll reread mine if you reread yours...


Do you actually know humans that continue to speak to you after they have met you?


I can only hope... the fact that you think yourself anyones intellectual superior is proof enough of your inferiority complex.
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I have tried to clue you in before. I have failed.. sorry. Wait..that was incorrect. Nothing I have tried has succeeded. Some students, it seems, are beyond help. As for as explaining why I posted the pics, it's not my fault that you don't seem to be able to figure it out. But I won't apologize for your lack of success in solving this task/puzzle.I care about what I care about - not what you deem it appropriate for me to care about. Last time I heard, I have that right. Just as you have the right to remain self-righteously indignant at my pointing out the foolishness in your posts. Last time I heard, te "perpetrator" was sentenced to ten years and more trials are to come. Seems like American justice in action to me.
I make no such claim. As a matter of fact.. I only argue that your posts make no intellectual sense... steeped in biased language, proceeding from flawed or disputed premises and somehow reaching conclusions you believe to be true/factual rather than recognizing that you have neither provided valid logical constructions nor reason to consider giving you the benefit of the doubt on anything.

I still want to know what the point of this thread was ?

I dunno, but this one line made it all worth the reading.....