Second Life Sucks

Amazing as it seems, after searching google, I cant find a single person who hates SL. Where are all the kiddies that got kicked out of the game. Where are all the bad reviews?
I mean there's gotta be someone out ther who hates SL. It doesnt have any blood, or stuff to kill, or naked chicks (yeah i live in a PG sim
Where are all the hordes of people who think There or TSO is much better? Confined to private forums? In jail? In the loony bin? Murdered and buried by rabid SL zealots?

So you thought the Lindens only had God Mode *inside* SL? Ah to be young and naive again....

Chances are they were raped and inpregnated by angry hippos whilst locked in a castle (none of which I was involved with, of course).

They're in There, badmouthing us. Seriously, when I'm in There, all I hear about is the suckyness of SL. All the newbies who were told about There by TSO friends hear that SL sucks and then never try it! Of course, when There gets boring, they will all come here. Yay.

The only people Ive ever found that didnt like 2nd Life are rabid Star Wars Galaxies players....those people scare me!

I was a rabid TSO player, but I havent impressed any of my old friends to switch over. I just dont get it. Maybe they dont pee enough in real life, and SL just doesnt cover that

Yeah, James is right. (Whoa, that's kind of a weird-sounding sentence!)

Don't believe me? Check out the There forums at http://www.thereuniverse.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi.

The biggest complaints about SL seem to be as follows:

1. it's so big and empty.
   
2. it's difficult to use.
   
3. it's slow, both in terms of hardware requirements and the sheer amount of data needed to transfer.
   
4. avatars are difficult to customize and even harder to make attractive. Choosing a face isn't as eas as There.
   
5. it's geared to builders; there's little content for users who aren't interested in building.
   
6. it's expensive. (as opposed to..?)
   
7. the newbie experience is highly lacking. One poster wrote of his harrowing quest to figure out what the hell was going on in Prelude.
   

Also, the lack of voice communications is apparently seen by many There users as being indicative of SL's inherent technological inferiority. (Because, you know, the rendering engine and all that stuff are easy.)

So these are all things that we KNOW about. SL is the "power user's" MMOE, (massively multiuser online environment) while There is the casual user's.

However, the issues that There fans who've tried SL mention are still big deals. They're exactly right: SL's UI is CRAP. It's inconsistent, it's slow, it's non-intuitive.

Better UI, more features and support for the casual user, more intuitive building and avatar customization tools. These are all features that, while not necessarily easy or quick to implement, are doable. They're also all issues that the Lindens know about and are working on.

Well, no, it isn't. Just that the Lindens hide the newbies in Ahern to make the world seem clean and happy, but it isn't.


1.2 should fix that. YAY YAY YAY.

One more time now: SL IS STREAMING. Everything you see in SL is being transfered from the server to your computer in real time. Everything you see in There is being kept on your hard drive.
As opposed to There, where you need to go to a certain location, pay money, and use almost the exact same interface we have in SL except with less features. Sounds fair.
Well, Second Life has a community in which people who aren't creative aren't welcome. It's a good thing

That's a stumper.

This one I have to agree with. The newbie experience REALLY needs improvement!

I tried to a get of my former mud playing crew to try out SL, so far I think one or two checked it out but didn't stay.

I think it wasn't that there was anything wrong with SL, just a fundemantal difference in what we got out of our previous games. They played a lot of MUDS, mainly ones that I coded on, I also enjoyed messing around on MOOs -- I was always geared towards creating things over smacking the monsters, they enjoyed smacking the monsters and getting stuff.

Carry that forward into the 3d world and I prefer SL, they prefer EverQuest.

Whatcha gonna do?

Siggy.

Slap them in the face with a raw fish to knock some sense into them?

BOO!

Scared? I was a rabid SWG player when it was still in Beta. Then I found SL... now I'm not even sure I'll buy Horizons when it goes to retail. And I've been waiting for that game for years!

Scary, Geeky Bhodi

> it's expensive. (as opposed to..?)

Nah, if you're getting what you want $15 a month is nothing. It's also the same price you pay for eq, DAOC, Planetside, Shattered Galaxy (good game btw if you havent tried it yet), and I'm not just going to carry on the list, but I can if anyone wants

Of course, the question is: are you getting what you want? and what do you want?

I'm pretty much hooked on SL. I havent been on for a week, but that's partly because I'm scared by how much I was playing it... not healthy y'know!

ZHugh

Expensive? Nah.

My $15 a month is only £8.99 GBP - I can easily spend five times that if I go out to get drunk with my mates (which strangely doesnt seem to happen so often nowadays lol).

For the amount of fun and quality 'escapeism' I get out of this game, I think it's dirt-cheap compared to any other addictive vices I could get into

(I still think there should be a 'Caution: Addictive' warning on the website lol)

Hell, I've heard of one person who speant 3000 dollars on THERE stuff.

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Originally posted by Catherine Omega

it's so big and empty.
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Originally posted by Darwin Appleby ...
Well, no, it isn't. Just that the Lindens hide the newbies in Ahern to make the world seem clean and happy, but it isn't.
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Well, yes it is. Its very empty. And it's hard to find stuff to do. I really dont think Lindens hide noobs anywhere. When I talk to a noob, I tell them to explore the world, and I hear others say the same thing. There needs to be a starting point and Ahern is it. Its a place to find people in the big empty world, which is why people gather there. It could be any other place, the result would be the same.

And as a long time player, I am finding less and less to do. I believe I am running out of things to do. It's harder to find people to do something with too.

I log in, and I see vast areas off empty. I check the map and I see one, two, maybe six av in a sim.

I think this is a very real problem. Dwell is just part of the solution, getting some to occupy others, filling up time for both, but I think there needs to be more.

fen-

I apologize in advance for the upcoming rant
I actually had the chance to choose which of the 2 games to play once I got my DSL. After watching both trailers I think what geared me towards SL is that it seemed more creative and more open to one's imagination...so I choose to play SL. Each game has it's own strong points and weak points, it all depends what the user is looking for. As for the SL complaints...

1. it's so big and empty:
When it comes to builds it isn't... there is always something to see when exploring. And if it was so empty, there would have been tons of land to build on and there wouldn't be any complaints about lack of land or high prim counts.
When it comes to users online, sometimes it is... we have to remember that many people are online different hours because of the time differences, but many find the time to log in during events. In my personal experience I have always found people to talk to when I am online. I am very close to my neighbors and we spend time together chatting, building or just exploring.

2.it's difficult to use:
This is my first real online game. I have never been used to playing PC games (I am a console gamer) and I didn't even play through the newbie tutorial (my bf played through it while I watched), so I thought that it would be difficult to play and I was wrong. I learned the interface pretty easily and I learned how to build/texture all by myself (mostly through trial and error and a lot of experimenting). There are things that I stil haven't fully learned to do, but the process has been fun. Heck, if I learned how to use SL, I think many can.

3. it's slow, both in terms of hardware requirements and the sheer amount of data needed to transfer:
Again, just like Darwin has said a billion times... "SL IS STREAMING. Everything you see in SL is being transfered from the server to your computer in real time. Everything you see in There is being kept on your hard drive." (quote from a previous post). My DSL is really slow (I have met people with faster connections through their cel phones) and unless there are too many users in one sim, the game runs smoothly.

4. avatars are difficult to customize and even harder to make attractive. Choosing a face isn't as easy as There:
In my opinion, avatars in There look kinda generic. In SL we can be anyone or anything we want (I know many non-human avatars), but I guess if I was being charged real money to change my avatar's look, I might be plain looking as well. As for it being hard to make attractive avatars, I have met many good looking AV's during my time on SL and the ones that have been ugly, were mostly made that way on purpose. In fact, many of the avatars that are in the newbie folders (the ones we start out with in the beginning) are attractive.

5. it's geared to builders; there's little content for users who aren't interested in building:
I have to admit that SL is mostly geared towards builders, but the beauty of it is that if you feel like building stresses you out, then you can find someone to build for you. There are many helpful people in SL and many of them have donated houses as well. We aren't a glorified chat room, which is what There seems to be and even if building isn't your strongpoint, there are still many things to do (exploring, scripting, sports, shopping, gambling, etc.). not to mention all the upcoming games that we will be able to play (Dark Life being proof of this).

6. it's expensive:
At least we aren't charged real money to make things. If this would have been the case, I would have easily spent thousands already (won't say it too loud, wouldn't want to give the Lindens any ideas ).

7. the newbie experience is highly lacking:
Again, I didn't go through the newbie tutorial and I still learned to play. I have also met many users who have skipped through the newbie tutorial because they didn't have the patience, they wanted to take advantage of the trial time or they just wanted to learn by themselves. I have also met many newbies that are fast learners...props to Proximo and his animations, Onion and his scripts, and Karma and his home... you guys have never ceased to amaze me.

a newbie told me they felt like SL was a glorified chat room.....well.....iam here to be the big reality checker......SECOND LIFE IS JUST LIKE YOUR FIRST.....Its WHAT YOU MAKE IT.

so if all you know how to do is chat....and you wanna do more...get motivated...get inspired....no one is gonna take your hand. And if you think its not fun...too hard....and you just cant learn........maybe your best suited for a glorified chat room such as TSO respectfully.

jojo

(nope, you dont get hugs on this one)




btw:
where can i find a loki doll??????

In the end ....Sl will attract its share of folks because of what it is and not what its not. Lindens are moving us forward as best they can with technolgy...we are moving us forward by being Sl'ers. It's a hard environmet to pin down. All I can suggest to folks is try it out. The rest will be easy....they wil either not "get it" and find anyone one of a half dozen good reasons why it stinks to them or feel that they have found digital parardise. Its definitely is not for everyone and to those who leave ....all we can say is thanks for trying.......

You missed the llVoidBladder() scripting function?



Sure, you can spend $3000 on SecondLife stuff. It'll only take you sixteen years and eight months!