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Loki Pico
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02-04-2005 06:36
According to this US General, its fun to kill. Geez.
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
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02-04-2005 07:37
I wonder if this jerk will come home and start beating up his wife.
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Eddie Bombay
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Join date: 9 Sep 2003
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02-04-2005 08:10
I wouldn't be surprised if he already did beat his wife. What a freaken weirdo.
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Rose Karuna
Lizard Doctor
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
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02-04-2005 08:10
General Mattis is a U.S. Marine. U.S. Marines are not generally famous for their tact or cultural sensitivity. The United States Government (that's us) does not train them for cultural sensitivity. They start from day one training to fight. They live it, eat it, breathe it. It's not pretty, it's war.
Of Note: The newspaper described Mattis as "a tough and outspoken leatherneck who was beloved by many of his troops for talking straight and leading from the battlefield." According to the North County Times, "While fiercely defending his Marines' right to use whatever force necessary to defend themselves, Mattis continually championed nonmilitary means for securing the peace in Iraq, such as rapid reconstruction and quickly training and equipping Iraqi forces. He often reminded his troops to 'first, do no harm,'" the newspaper said. Mattis has been at odds with the Bush administration for their complete lack of foresight with regard to reconstruction and withdrawal. _____________________
I Do Whatever My Rice Krispies Tell Me To
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Eddie Bombay
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02-04-2005 08:25
It's real tough for some 3 star gen sitting in some comfortable trailer miles away from the battlefield. Shooting and killing innocent men, women and children is alot of fun to cowards. If the Marines are so damn tough, why haven't they kicked the crap out of these rag tag insurgents? Why haven't they caught OBL? Yeah, its easy to shoot and bomb unarmed people. When they have guns and bombs too, its a different story. Just ask the 1400 plus soldiers that have died so far. Not to mention the thousands that have been senselessly maimed for the rest of their lives physically and emotionally. What an idiot.
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Eddie Bombay
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02-04-2005 08:28
Then again now that I think about it we have loved ones too... and if it came down to a choice between them or us I guess I would want us to win...
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Rose Karuna
Lizard Doctor
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
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02-04-2005 08:37
It's real tough for some 3 star gen sitting in some comfortable trailer miles away from the battlefield. Shooting and killing innocent men, women and children is alot of fun to cowards. If the Marines are so damn tough, why haven't they kicked the crap out of these rag tag insurgents? Why haven't they caught OBL? Yeah, its easy to shoot and bomb unarmed people. When they have guns and bombs too, its a different story. Just ask the 1400 plus soldiers that have died so far. Not to mention the thousands that have been senselessly maimed for the rest of their lives physically and emotionally. What an idiot. Generals that sit in comfortable trailers outside of the battlefield are generally not too respected by Marines. So my guess is that he's a hands on kind of guy. Based on his lack of tact alone, I doubt that he is beloved by the political powers to be. Honest people frequently say things that I don't agree with, but I respect them anyway because they have the courage to actually state their real opinion. OTOH - I despise smarthy Yale political types who sit in air conditioned offices all day and think they know what it's like to face a frightened teenager with a bomb under his clothes. For what it's worth, I don't thing we should be in Iraq. We should have stayed in Afganistan until we bombed Osama and his followers out of the universe and then, spent more time to determine whether or not to go into Iraq as well as how to pull out when the time came. Yes, many innocent men, women and children in Iraq have been killed. Don't blame the men and women that WE sent to fight in Iraq for that. Blame the smarthy politicians sitting in the oval office. _____________________
I Do Whatever My Rice Krispies Tell Me To
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Olympia Rebus
Muse of Chaos
Join date: 22 Feb 2004
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02-04-2005 09:10
According to this US General, its fun to kill. Geez. ![]() Perhaps human beings are hard-wired to find agression (including killing) satisfying, as long as the guy getting killed is considered "one of them". Not that this makes it ok, of course. I've read that ancestors of modern humans were vicious bastards who wiped out other humanoids. (Once they were gone, we had to settle for killing each other.) _____________________
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Kiamat Dusk
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You gotta read the whole thing...
02-04-2005 14:52
I wonder if this jerk will come home and start beating up his wife. Mattis added: "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." Judging by that statement, I would say "no". Judging by *your* statement I would question if you bothered reading the article at all. -Kiamat Dusk "It's not what they call, it's what you answer to!" -Skinlab 'Dissolve' _____________________
"My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape." -Bret Easton Ellis 'American Psycho'
"Anger is a gift." -RATM "Freedom" Eat me, you vile waste of food. http://writing.com/authors/suffer |
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Lordfly Digeridoo
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02-04-2005 14:57
If the Marines are so damn tough, why haven't they kicked the crap out of these rag tag insurgents? Why haven't they caught OBL? Walk into a marine base and ask that question, I'm sure they'll be happy to give you a demo of how tough they are. My brother was in the marines... 30 years ago. He still gets up every morning at 4 AM to do pushups. And he can probably beat the snot out of you in half a second. Once a marine, always a marine. LF _____________________
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billy Madison
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02-04-2005 15:08
Walk into a marine base and ask that question, I'm sure they'll be happy to give you a demo of how tough they are. My brother was in the marines... 30 years ago. He still gets up every morning at 4 AM to do pushups. And he can probably beat the snot out of you in half a second. Once a marine, always a marine. LF Same with my brother and cousin.. i remember when i used to think 5 miles was far to run.. he thinks its a joke.. of course now iv been marathon running and such but i do that for fun.. he runs to tourment his weakness. _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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Join date: 17 Jun 2004
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02-04-2005 15:30
Mattis added: "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." Judging by that statement, I would say "no". Judging by *your* statement I would question if you bothered reading the article at all. -Kiamat Dusk "It's not what they call, it's what you answer to!" -Skinlab 'Dissolve' I did read the whole thing. Why assume I didn't? It was the point I was making. I see no difference between him and the men he has so much fun killing. You obviously don't know anything about how "projection" works. As a former abused spouse --I'll tell ya right now, this Mattis is an abusive husband. Bet on it. |
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Talen Morgan
Amused
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02-04-2005 15:58
I did read the whole thing. Why assume I didn't? It was the point I was making. I see no difference between him and the men he has so much fun killing. You obviously don't know anything about how "projection" works. As a former abused spouse --I'll tell ya right now, this Mattis is an abusive husband. Bet on it. You can't make that assumption ....I have killed snakes....doesn't mean I abuse animals. you wanna see how the other side lives.....dig up Stonings on google ...theres a few videos of it. They bury the accused up to their waist in a sack. Then 50-100 have at the accused with stones while smiling and laughing. They have killed women because they were raped...you see someone who was raped dishonered the family. Last year Iran stoned to death a 12 year old mentaly retarded girl because she was molested by an uncle.....I'm glad the Marines find joy in thier work....because when you enjoy your work you do it well. |
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Kendra Bancroft
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02-04-2005 16:43
You can't make that assumption ....I have killed snakes....doesn't mean I abuse animals. you wanna see how the other side lives.....dig up Stonings on google ...theres a few videos of it. They bury the accused up to their waist in a sack. Then 50-100 have at the accused with stones while smiling and laughing. They have killed women because they were raped...you see someone who was raped dishonered the family. Last year Iran stoned to death a 12 year old mentaly retarded girl because she was molested by an uncle.....I'm glad the Marines find joy in thier work....because when you enjoy your work you do it well. Most Marines I have known --and I have known many --and count three as good good friends --will tell you they never enjoy killing --but recognize they must on occasion. This Mattis is a disgrace to his uniform. And if the USA must defend itself by saying "Well at least we don't stone retards" Then I guess we've indeed sunk to a whole new horrible level. |
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Olympia Rebus
Muse of Chaos
Join date: 22 Feb 2004
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02-04-2005 16:58
Most Marines I have known --and I have known many --and count three as good good friends --will tell you they never enjoy killing --but recognize they must on occasion. . Maybe it works like this- say Joe Blow is an bully. He likes power, violence and controlling others. When he picks his career, he's likely to pick something where his brute behavior can flourish. Same reason arsonists end up being firefighters and child molesters end up working with kids. In each case, the majority of these people don't like killing/setting fires/abusing kids, but there's always a troublemaker who can't behave and makes everyone look bad. _____________________
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Neehai Zapata
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Join date: 8 Apr 2004
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02-04-2005 16:58
I would just like to take this moment and offer thanks to the US Marines for being there during my early homosexual development. It was quite fun growing up next to a base.
By the way, this might be too much information, but it is a running joke in the gay community. All Marines like to be the passive partner sexually. What is up with that. Every single Marine I have been with and all my friends, the Marine prefers to be on the receiving end. Is there some odd domination thing that goes along with that? No other branch of the military is that way, just the Marines. _____________________
Unofficial moderator and proud dysfunctional parent to over 1000 bastard children.
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
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02-04-2005 17:14
Maybe it works like this- say Joe Blow is an bully. He likes power, violence and controlling others. When he picks his career, he's likely to pick something where his brute behavior can flourish. Same reason arsonists end up being firefighters and child molesters end up working with kids. In each case, the majority of these people don't like killing/setting fires/abusing kids, but there's always a troublemaker who can't behave and makes everyone look bad. Exactly --and I'm saying a man who enjoys killing other men and justifies it by saying they abuse their wives is DEFINATELY an abuser himself. Sorry --but unless you've been at the other end of an abusive man's fist, you can't possibly understand why I know that. My abusive ex-spouse once ran 20 blocks after a guy who tranny-bashed me and kicked the living shit out of him in such a way that the man's face was no longer recognizable. Did he do it for me? No --he later told me how much he enjoyed it. Later that night he beat me up for calling attention to myself. See how it works? Mattis isn't doing this to protect women --he's doing it kill his own monster. Frankly --it doesn't matter --a 3 star general should be demoted to Captain simply because he sent such a vile message out into the world. |
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Al Bravo
Retired
Join date: 29 Jun 2004
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02-04-2005 17:45
I speak as the son of a 20+ year career military sergeant and someone that has volunteered at the Genesis Women's Shelter in Dallas.
"Don't question the man that has your back." He may not be articulate. He probably was taken advantage of by the media. But, day after day - he is there guarding your freedom. Pay thanks. Try to forgive his comments. _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
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02-04-2005 17:50
I speak as the son of a 20+ year career military sergeant and someone that has volunteered at the Genesis Women's Shelter in Dallas. "Don't question the man that has your back." He may not be articulate. He probably was taken advantage of by the media. But, day after day - he is there guarding your freedom. Pay thanks. Try to forgive his comments. Messages from a 3 star are not accidental. If he didn't want to be quoted --he wouldn't have been quoted. The media is in bed with the military. Personally, I don't wan't my freedom guarded by a man of that ilk. A man who enjoys killing does not "have my back". His words demean my country, and the troops he is supposed to be leading. That being said --Kudos to your Dad! I have great respect for a man that protects women by actually protecting them. |