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Castrate rapists say Kenyan MPs

Hiro Pendragon
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04-28-2005 22:31
Castrate rapists say Kenyan MPs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4493855.stm

Kenyan members of parliament have unanimously passed a motion calling for convicted rapists to be castrated.
The motion opens the way for a new Sexual Offences Bill to be introduced.

Njoki Ndung'u, who moved the motion, said two women were raped every hour and said the police were too lax in prosecuting rapists.

"Kenya is becoming a nation of rapists where rapists go scot-free," she said. Some MPs said the motion would prevent Kenya becoming a haven for sex tourism.

The BBC's Gray Phombeah in the capital, Nairobi, says that rape is on the increase in Kenya and that last week, people were shocked to hear about a man who had made his handicapped daughter pregnant.

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Ms Ndung'u, a women's rights lawyer, said that rape was being massively under-reported in Kenya.

She said police records show 2,308 rapes last year, while figures from pressure groups and health centres show almost 16,000.

The Bible says that if any part of the body causes you to sin, it should be removed

She said many rapes were not reported because the offender was a relative or because of a reluctance to relive the experience in court.

Ms Ndung'u also called for anti-Aids drugs to be given to rape victims.

While Ms Ndung'u advocated chemical castration for those convicted of a second sexual offence, others called for physical castration or even stoning to death.

Health Minister Charity Ngilu quoted the Bible to back the call.

"The Bible says that if any part of the body causes you to sin, it should be removed," she said.

The Daily Nation newspaper reports the MPs agreed to speak for five minutes each, instead of the usual 10, so that more people would get the chance to contribute to the passionate debate.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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04-29-2005 03:53
If it wasn't that so many 'rapists' are innocent (I read somewhere its got the largest ratio of innocent-but-found-guilty to actually-guilty of all crimes, though that may have been in error. I do know the ratio is pretty bad), I'd be all for this.

I have no sympathy for true rapists at all.

Of course, then we have to get into the definition of "True rapist" I guess...

*sigh*
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04-29-2005 04:55
This is great news! Now we know where to send convicted rapists!!
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04-29-2005 06:43
From: Hiro Pendragon
The Bible says that if any part of the body causes you to sin, it should be removed


Ok I guess the first question is...um...how does a the twig n berrys make you do anything. Isnt that your mind?

and Second wouldnt they call that beheading?

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Talen Morgan
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04-29-2005 07:20
Castration will do nothing to a rapist. If they are inclined to rape they will still do so....with the advent of the testosterone patch men no longer need balls to produce....
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04-29-2005 07:22
From: Talen Morgan
Castration will do nothing to a rapist. If they are inclined to rape they will still do so....with the advent of the testosterone patch men no longer need balls to produce....


Well, my idea would be a little more all-inclusive...
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04-29-2005 07:46
From: Talen Morgan
Castration will do nothing to a rapist. If they are inclined to rape they will still do so.....


Very true. Rape is less about sex than it is about power & cruelty. A completely emasculated rapist can figure out other ways to assault his victim that are equally evil.
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04-29-2005 07:51
From: Mirra Hathor
Very true. Rape is less about sex than it is about power & cruelty. A completely emasculated rapist can figure out other ways to assault his victim that are equally evil.


Yeah, but it's still a start.

Second (100% verifiable) offense, off with a leg, I say.

Third, death.

But, I'm draconian.
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04-29-2005 07:51
Under this law, what is the prescribed punishment for female rapists?
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04-29-2005 07:54
If i remember correctly from my English History ..

In norman england a man caught in the act of rape (of a norman woman anyway) was by law put to the sword on the spot.

I remember when I read this then, it sounded like a good deterent
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04-29-2005 08:44
From: Ardith Mifflin
Under this law, what is the prescribed punishment for female rapists?


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No such animal cause how many men are going to report a woman giving them sex even if she is uglier than Sin they aint going to report it.
[exit sarcasm]

So, I guess that eludes to another question of Can a man be Raped?

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04-29-2005 08:48
Norwegian Court Convicts First Woman for Rape

OSLO (Reuters) - A Norwegian court has sentenced a woman to nine months in jail for raping a man, the first such conviction in the Scandinavian country that prides itself for its egalitarianism.

The 31-year-old man fell asleep on a sofa at a party in January last year and told the court in the western city of Bergen he woke to find the 23-year-old woman was having oral sex with him.

Under Norwegian law, all sexual acts with someone who is "unconscious or for other reasons unable to oppose the act" are considered rape.

The court sentenced the woman Wednesday to nine months in jail and ordered her to pay 40,000 Norwegian crowns ($6,355) in compensation.

"This is a very harsh sentence," the woman's lawyer, Per Magne Kristiansen, told the Norwegian news agency NTB. The woman argued the man had been awake and consented.

The prosecutor had sought a 10-month sentence and argued the court should not be more lenient with a woman than a man. It was Norway's first conviction of a woman for rape.

Norway has long traditions of equality -- 40 percent of the cabinet of Prime Minister Kjell Magne Bondevik, for instance, are women.
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04-29-2005 08:54
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Norwegian Court Convicts First Woman for Rape

OSLO (Reuters) - A Norwegian court has sentenced a woman to nine months in jail for raping a man, the first such conviction in the Scandinavian country that prides itself for its egalitarianism.

The 31-year-old man fell asleep on a sofa at a party in January last year and told the court in the western city of Bergen he woke to find the 23-year-old woman was having oral sex with him.

Under Norwegian law, all sexual acts with someone who is "unconscious or for other reasons unable to oppose the act" are considered rape.

The court sentenced the woman Wednesday to nine months in jail and ordered her to pay 40,000 Norwegian crowns ($6,355) in compensation.

"This is a very harsh sentence," the woman's lawyer, Per Magne Kristiansen, told the Norwegian news agency NTB. The woman argued the man had been awake and consented.

The prosecutor had sought a 10-month sentence and argued the court should not be more lenient with a woman than a man. It was Norway's first conviction of a woman for rape.

Norway has long traditions of equality -- 40 percent of the cabinet of Prime Minister Kjell Magne Bondevik, for instance, are women.


Hmm, guess that answered my question.
Or he was stupid one.
But then again what better way to get out of hot water with your wife, than to sue the girl that gave you head.
Then use the 6k to apease your pissed off wife cause you got caught.
Mileage may vary..;)

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04-29-2005 10:51
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Yeah, but it's still a start.

Second (100% verifiable) offense, off with a leg, I say.

Third, death.

But, I'm draconian.



I like your thinking but there is no need to wait...first verifiable offence ...death
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04-29-2005 10:53
From: Colette Meiji
If i remember correctly from my English History ..

In norman england a man caught in the act of rape (of a norman woman anyway) was by law put to the sword on the spot.

I remember when I read this then, it sounded like a good deterent


Thats back in the day when people didn't put up with shit and didn't listen to the sob stories of " poor bobby had a bad childhood ...its really not his fault"

Personally I like the old way...draw and quater them....or just torture the fuck out of them before disembowling them.
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04-29-2005 11:20
From: Talen Morgan
I like your thinking but there is no need to wait...first verifiable offence ...death



well if they are going to use castration as a punishment , how about castration with no anethesia?

and just a red hot knife to cauterize whats left, why waste valuable doctors to stitch them up.

If the men behave worse then animals , why would they deserve to be treated better .. geld them.
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04-29-2005 12:04
From: Rose Karuna
Norwegian Court Convicts First Woman for Rape ...


Ah, you beat me to it, Rose. I actually saw it yesterday off of http://www.fark.com -- they have great headlines: "Woman convicted of raping man via oral sex at a party in Norway as he slept. In Other News, Woman now invited to every party in Norway."
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04-29-2005 15:17
From: Colette Meiji
well if they are going to use castration as a punishment , how about castration with no anethesia?

and just a red hot knife to cauterize whats left, why waste valuable doctors to stitch them up.

If the men behave worse then animals , why would they deserve to be treated better .. geld them.



Castration isn't punishment though. Rape is an act of violence usually towards women....now take the rapist and cut off his balls.....I think he might just be pissed off a lil more and go out and create even more violence towards women....Shoot him in the head after you rip his balls off with an egg beater and everyone gets what they want :D
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04-29-2005 18:41
When I started reading this thread a little voice in the back of my head started up with the Kenya song ...

We're chopping their nuts off... only in Kenya .. yeah only in Kenya we're chopping their nuts off!

We'll be culling their ballsacks... only in Kenya... chopping their nuts off only in Kenya...

I need help.... seriously I need help.
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