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Contradiction?

Dominik Bauer
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01-13-2005 11:56
from the transcript of today's meeting with the Lindens I have a few comments I still find pretty interesting regarding the changes of SL economy.
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Haney Linden: Dominik Bauer: why did the changes come with such short notice? people could have adjusted a bit better if there was a form of early "warning"? or is that a part of the experiment?
Robin Linden: We gave a week notice. How much notice do you think would have been preferable?
You: a month
Nexus Nash: a wee
Nexus Nash: week*
Alucard Otis: no change at al
Robin Linden: Well a month might be better, but it would also allow the economic trend downward to continue that much longer.
Robin Linden: And the value of the L$ to decline which hurts the entire community in the long run.
You: hmmm...was that an answer? or a question to the question?
YasmineTara Fatale: roflmao

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Haney Linden: Dominik Bauer: now Linden labs supports only educational events. why not cut all event support if the economy is in such a bad state?
Char Linden: IM me if you need a card on Support for Ed Events =)
Robin Linden: First of all the economy isn't in a bad state. This is a small adjustment to the economy. I know for individuals it seems large, but overall it's relatively small.
Robin Linden: We'd like to make sure there are events that help people learn how to do more in SL.
Robin Linden: For those who think they aren't creative, for example. A class might teach them something new they never thought they could do before.
Robin Linden: I've heard so many people say, wow I never thought I was creative, and look what I did! It's actually quite exciting
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let me summarize the two statements...the economy isn't in such a bad state...but Lindens still had to rush this? hmnmmm...I don't really understand the fact that this had to be rushed. In my humble oppinion this rush is actually what creates so much frustration among the SL residents.
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Lo Jacobs
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01-13-2005 11:57
Nope, I don't see it.
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Enabran Templar
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01-13-2005 11:59
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Rickard Roentgen
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01-13-2005 12:10
even if you think their decission was rushed, preemptive action is usually better than reactive.
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Kurt Zidane
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01-13-2005 12:16
I think it would be good if ll give advanced notice. Like a month. BUf it they did, people would have complianed about it for the next month. Hopefully in a week this will all be over with. And if they did wait a month. Every one would have complained becasue they waited that long.
Moleculor Satyr
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01-13-2005 13:39
No, I don't see a contradiction. An economy that is in a decent state can also be moving downwards. A person can be on the 20th floor and moving downwards too. See?

And more warning would result in more protracted fluctuations and possible worsenings of the SL economy.

Plus... what point is there in more warning? Seriously? What -exactly- do you have to do that's going to take a month to do that you can't do in two days?
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Torley Linden
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01-13-2005 14:06
Even if I see contradictions, I may embrace them. Such is the conflicted nature of human unnature. ;)

The flipside of prolonging with a "monthlong period" would, of course, might be extended panic and paranoia. Some would think it preferable just to "get over with it already!"
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Lash Xevious
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01-13-2005 14:32
From: Moleculor Satyr
No, I don't see a contradiction. An economy that is in a decent state can also be moving downwards. A person can be on the 20th floor and moving downwards too. See?

And more warning would result in more protracted fluctuations and possible worsenings of the SL economy.

Plus... what point is there in more warning? Seriously? What -exactly- do you have to do that's going to take a month to do that you can't do in two days?


Exactly. I quote this not to be redundant but to reiterate. :p
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Asha Lumiere
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01-13-2005 15:09
I see it. And also feel like it was slammed on us like it was some emergency and we coulda had more time. If it's not such a big deal why not cut back slowly working us into it?
Zuzi Martinez
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01-13-2005 17:50
how's about wording it "we took the wrong exit off the highway and if we keep going we'll be way way off course. but right now we're not very far off course at all." no contradiction.

meh, if they were going to do it then what good would more warning do? it would just cause frenzies of rate whoring and noneducational events as people tried to milk them before they were gone. incidentally making the problem worse, just like they said it would. :D
Hiro Pendragon
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01-13-2005 22:29
I don't see a contradiction, but:

1. A week's notice? HUH? Where? I do believe we got under 2 days' notice.

2. A small adjustment to the economy? I would greatly fear a large change, by that definition!
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blaze Spinnaker
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01-14-2005 02:25
I saw the contradiction immediately.

In the first post, Robin says the L$ was sliding. In the second comment, Robin says that this change is immaterial.

Which is it, folks? Immaterial or not? Immaterial changes do not stop currency slides.

Good catch.

My thoughts: it's not immaterial, they just want an easy excuse for not discussing with the community.

The problem is, at the end of the day, is how do you involve the community without dealing with the constant lurching from one mass hysteria to the next?

I think more voting tools would help quite a bit. I think it's pretty obvious that LL doesn't exactly know what's going on in the mind of their users, and voting tools would help that out quite a bit.
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