Screwed up CS?
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Cyanide Leviathan
Xtreme Loser Squad
Join date: 12 Jun 2003
Posts: 408
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04-05-2004 10:53
First, i didnt want to put this on the general discussion, with all the stuff thats been happening.
I have a question for you all. What do you do, when someone is attacking you, and they are doing so within the guidelines of the CS, but you can retaliate in now way, as it would be highly against CS. also, abuse reports will get you mo where in this situation.
What do you do?
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Jolene Jade
JOJO THE GREAT
Join date: 12 Aug 2003
Posts: 459
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04-05-2004 10:59
well Cy there are plenty of ways to .... get pay back with in TOS.......you will just have to be creative....lol...let me know how it turns out for ya.... 
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Cyanide Leviathan
Xtreme Loser Squad
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04-05-2004 11:04
Ack, that would make both sides end up like the situation in Palestine ( I refuse to recognize the "nation of Israel" in case you were thinking "wtf...?" )
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Kathy Yamamoto
Publisher and Surrealist
Join date: 1 May 2003
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04-05-2004 17:08
From: someone Originally posted by Cyanide Leviathan ... I refuse to recognize the "nation of Israel" ... Pardon? Why? Is the concept difficult for you? You might have issues about how the nation came about, or where it's located, or how it behaves, but I think it's pretty obvious there's a nation of Israel. As for your premise, how is someone attacking you within the terms of the CS? That seems to suggest to me that they are SAYING something that you disagree with, and that you feel like that's the same thing as an attack. And, it's clear you've already calculated the results of all the replies you could manage to formulate. Interesting that they seem to be against the rules in every case. I think you're clever enough to come up with SOMETHING other than flat out abuse. Give it a try. And if you really cann't, then I suppose you can simply say I'm "attacking" you "within the CS," and that I'm simply a smarter griefer than you 
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Cyanide Leviathan
Xtreme Loser Squad
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04-05-2004 18:11
I do not think that Israel has any ligitimate right to be. The forced the palestinians out of their land, leaving hundreds of thousands, millions, homeless. Please, do not think this as anti semetisim, as Zionists often like to make it seem. I have no problem with judaeism (sp) And i hope Ariel Sharon gets thrown from his position, he has done so much to unravel the peace making process in the region.
Who can be certain, but there are accounts of the Israeli army of occupation rounding up the males 12 and up and killing them all, destroying illigitamate palestinian settelments, and shelling villages with artillary. The palestinians have been forced of their land, and are not able to create there own propor armed forces, so they have to fall to terrorisim, its the only war they can fight
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Kathy Yamamoto
Publisher and Surrealist
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04-05-2004 21:22
From: someone Originally posted by Cyanide Leviathan I do not think that Israel has any ligitimate right to be. The forced the palestinians out of their land, leaving hundreds of thousands, millions, homeless. Please, do not think this as anti semetisim, as Zionists often like to make it seem. I have no problem with judaeism (sp) And i hope Ariel Sharon gets thrown from his position, he has done so much to unravel the peace making process in the region.
Who can be certain, but there are accounts of the Israeli army of occupation rounding up the males 12 and up and killing them all, destroying illigitamate palestinian settelments, and shelling villages with artillary. The palestinians have been forced of their land, and are not able to create there own propor armed forces, so they have to fall to terrorisim, its the only war they can fight Actually, Israel is the creation of a whole lot of countries who didn't want a lot of Jewish refugees in THEIR country. Those countries despised everyone who already lived there, and didn't think much of the Jews either. So, they pushed the natives out of the way and gave the Jews a country - and a never-ending war. For the Palestinians to hate the Jews is a lot like cellmates trying to knife each other - it isn't going to have any effect on who put them in the cell together, and neither one is leaving. And it sure is silly for outsiders to pick sides - especially based on who belongs there and who doesn't. Question: where should the Israelis go instead? Back to their original countries? The conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians is fairly straightforward. They hate having to live next to each other. The solution is equally straightforward - though quite improbable. They both have to get over it! They have to sit down and EACH of them has to make PEACE the first priority - one worth sacrificing face to. If not, they will all continue to die, and to kill their own children. That's all there is to it. It's not a case of "Wouldn't peace be better?" It's a case of peace being the ONLY way out. Thousands of dead children vs incessant nationalistic posturing? Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Malachi Petunia
Gentle Miscreant
Join date: 21 Sep 2003
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everything I need to know about SL griefers I learned in preschool
04-06-2004 06:42
There are many cool things about being a parent - one of which is you get to experience the world through new eyes with (hopefully) some wisdom you were lacking the first time around.
When my daughter was four she had a classmate who was a well known playground griefer. This griefer never went far enough to incur sanctions - usually - but was a jerk and was widely regarded as such (even 4 year olds can make that assesment). In teaching my girl how to deal with this we explored why the griefer was griefing, what the goal was, and how to best deny the griefer satisfaction. It seems self-evident, but the point of griefing is to get attention - often because the griefer isn't getting enough. The simple solution is to deny them that attention they desire; no reward, no incentive to continue. Three years on and this advice is serving her very well.
There are griefers in SL, some with push-guns, some with rudeness, some with collusive neg-rating, some with builds that seem designed to irritate. As SL allows you to invent your own goal, some have chosen as their goal to toy with others and screw as many people's emotions as they can. These griefers cannot be expunged from the world. Folks have noted in other threads that much of the unpleasantness in SL is attributable to a tiny fraction of the population; I tend to agree with this. However there is no global cure. Ban griefer A and they'll come back as griefer B; worse still, ban griefer C and have 100 people start a campaign against the martyrdom of their friend.
If you delete the calling card of the person bothering you, mute them, decline to respond to notecards dropped on you and generally keep out of circles that person frequents, they more or less cease to exist for you and are denied the fun of getting you riled up.
For some folks in SL, alas, drama *is* the game. You can decline to participate.
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Champie Jack
Registered User
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04-06-2004 22:40
well stated Malachi. Your daughter has an excellent role-model.
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Julian Fate
80's Pop Star
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04-07-2004 12:47
From: someone I do not think that Israel has any ligitimate right to be. The forced the palestinians out of their land, leaving hundreds of thousands, millions, homeless. Please, do not think this as anti semetisim, as Zionists often like to make it seem. I have no problem with judaeism (sp) And i hope Ariel Sharon gets thrown from his position, he has done so much to unravel the peace making process in the region. Can't...resist... I do not think that America has any ligitimate right to be. The forced the indians out of their land, leaving hundreds of thousands, millions, homeless. Please, do not think this as anti americanism, as Conservatives often like to make it seem. I have no problem with patriotism (sp) And i hope George Bush gets thrown from his position, he has done so much to unravel the peace making process in the region. Disclaimer: May not reflect poster's opinion. Might in fact exist for no other purpose than to antagonize people.  So what does anti-israel sentiment have to do with a CS issue again?
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Cyanide Leviathan
Xtreme Loser Squad
Join date: 12 Jun 2003
Posts: 408
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04-07-2004 13:57
From: someone Originally posted by Julian Fate Can't...resist...
I do not think that America has any ligitimate right to be. The forced the indians out of their land, leaving hundreds of thousands, millions, homeless. Please, do not think this as anti americanism, as Conservatives often like to make it seem. I have no problem with patriotism (sp) And i hope George Bush gets thrown from his position, he has done so much to unravel the peace making process in the region.
Disclaimer: May not reflect poster's opinion. Might in fact exist for no other purpose than to antagonize people. 
So what does anti-israel sentiment have to do with a CS issue again? Well, I should not have put that in there, and i pretty much have to agree with you on the rest
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