A question that has come up on occasion is, just how closely does LL 'listen in'? Do they regularly peek in on IMs and/or chats? Is it perhaps even more organized than that, and they have some sort of sifting program to flag potentially 'interesting' converstation?
And most important of all, how would the SL community feel if such a thing *were* in place?
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Morse Dillon
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Morse Dillon
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04-26-2005 22:03
Has anyone had any reason to think that LL *has* listened? Or maybe you had a situation that more-or-less proved they weren't, because if they were there's no way they'd *not* have done something about it?
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04-26-2005 22:08
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Huns Valen
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04-26-2005 22:14
LL deleted my post! Clearly someone over there is prejudiced against marmosets.
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04-26-2005 22:22
Ahhhh, love the respect.
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Juro Kothari
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04-27-2005 00:16
Morse,
I think, though cannot confirm, that LL has access to any/all chat logs. I do not think that they randomly sift through them, they are far too busy. A good rule of thumb is that anything you might not want others (namely LL) to ever have access to should be said on channels *outside* of SL. _____________________
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Jsecure Hanks
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04-27-2005 01:35
Let's implement PGP in SL and then send encrypted chat strings all over the place!
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Pete Fats
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04-27-2005 01:39
Jeff Linden hax0r'd my pgp key!
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PetGirl Bergman
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04-27-2005 01:58
I guess that the have no time for such things.. or are they employing people for it as im old East Germany?? Dont think so - why should they?
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Persephone Phoenix
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OOO Lets Come Up With The Sift Phrases!!!
04-27-2005 02:12
*stamps feet in glee at the notion*
What do you think the sift phrases might be? My first thought? GOM A question that has come up on occasion is, just how closely does LL 'listen in'? Do they regularly peek in on IMs and/or chats? Is it perhaps even more organized than that, and they have some sort of sifting program to flag potentially 'interesting' converstation? And most important of all, how would the SL community feel if such a thing *were* in place? _____________________
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Eggy Lippmann
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04-27-2005 03:01
Last summer, a friend of mine was on a smear campaign against someone... she was telling me someone's RL info and was instantly banned. My guess is that she had previously been reported and so LL was listening to all of her chats so as to catch her in the act. It's a good thing I don't cyber
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Hiro Pendragon
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04-27-2005 03:22
Last summer, a friend of mine was on a smear campaign against someone... she was telling me someone's RL info and was instantly banned. My guess is that she had previously been reported and so LL was listening to all of her chats so as to catch her in the act. It's a good thing I don't cyber Seriously? Define instantly? Is it possible someone just didn't report them and a Linden caught it right away? _____________________
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blaze Spinnaker
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04-27-2005 04:15
Yes, I suspect that was the case.
Pretty sure they have chat logs, though. _____________________
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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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blaze Spinnaker
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04-27-2005 04:17
As per http://www.secondlife.com/tos.php
8. PRIVACY .. 8.2 Linden Observation. You acknowledge and agree that Linden , in its sole discretion, may track, record, observe or follow any and all of your interactions within the Service _____________________
Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :
"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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Kali Dougall
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04-27-2005 07:03
The urge to watch others when they think they aren't being watched is very strong in humans. If the ability exists, then I imagine some Lindens engage in it from time to time. I've observed this sort of thing happen many times in several similar, though text-based, environments.
I find it unlikely that any Linden is unprofessional enough to use information gleaned in this manner against you. But if something absolutely must be private, you'd be wise to say it elsewhere. |
