Scam???

Lets say I (use myself to protect the party (for now)) made an object. Announced there will ONLY be x amount of this object sold... sold those and then (in fornt of the original buyers) sell more over and above the (x mount only) claim. Would this be considered scamming? and if so is there any "SL legal right" for me to refund any monies paid through this misleading "only x amount sold) ?
views on this would be interesting to know
thanx.

I believe LL is going to implement Friendster type functionality so that we'll get a better sense of the reputation of individuals.

This is a great idea, as it lets us leverage the wisdom of *crowds*.

Right now, it's very caveat emptor. I think dispute resolution is not necessarily the proper way to fix this.

I believe that friendster type functionality is. Do you trust someone that trusts someone that you're buying from?

That's the question that really needs to be answered.

Scarcity of the limited edition is what makes it worth more. If it's advertised as beig limited, that becomes part of the reason to buy it. If it turns out this is not a limited edition, then the item was presented as having more value than it actually posessed.

I *think* that's outright fraud (I'm no laywer.) I am totally certain it's a scummy thing to do.

It's a scam, yes.

Is there any legal recourse by way of linden labs? No.

Yes that is a scam. No there are no rules against it.

I also don't think there should be rules against it.

We need to work the reputation angle a bit more. We need to make reputation more visible.

The fact is, rules really never solve problems.

What solves problem is a culture of respect and truth. Your reputation is a part of that culture. And when your reputation is at risk, you're a lot more likely to do the right thing then the threat of some improbable lawsuit.

You could name the person here, take your slap on the wrist for doing so, and possibly save others from the disappointment you feel about the object. But, before accusing someone of fraud, you should be sure that your information is correct.

If you don't wish to stir up the controverys in the forums, you could just tell everyone you know that the person is running a scam, in your opinion. Other than these options, there isn't much you can do. This happens all the time in the real world. A company sells a limited edition product... they have serial numbers even. Once they've sold out, a minor change is made - no serial number - and the product is resold to the masses at a discount.

Had you been entered into a contract with the seller, you'd have some sort of "legal" standing in this. Please vote yes on Prop 39. http://secondlife.com/vote/get_feature.php?get_id=39

Addtionally, see: /invalid_link.html

Sorry this happened to you.
It's a really gross thing to do to someone.

I'm with you on this Keywe... Let's just say the same person did the same thing to us... Limited... Pfffft... Oh well... Another $6000L Down The Drain... I'm hurtin with ya Key...

Lata...

yeah its a shame that a few of us did get SCAMMED.. i mean come on you dont advertise something as being LIMITED then after that LIMITED is sold. you go and produce more for anyone that wants it. paid that kind of amount for something thinking your going to be one of the first come first served people to find out later that you were not?
if you want to sale items thats great.. we all are here to make our way in game.. but please for the sake of those that thought you were legit.. at least take them into conceration.. and thats all i have to say about that

Well to further my "issue" ta clear up no it wasnt nor never will be me LOL
I will add i do believe the object in question was (at the time) worth the monies paid BUT to be told (and everybody else that bought one) ONLY 50 sold !!! I more feel betrayed, to find out that there was in fact approx 58 and now they are also being placed in a store to be bought!!!! the person knows who she is and I HOPE that true salesmanship AND an attempt to "save face" enters the soul and at least offers those who purchased a LIMITED SUPPLY a refund to compensate the fraud that was involved.....also drop the price for the future "unweary" souls that think they too are buying a limited object.

I'd just like to point out that naming names is AOK at sluniverse.com and perhaps some public flogging would do a dishonest soul some good.

In seriousness, while I do believe that everyone is innocent until proven guilty, I also do not think it unreasonable to give friends and whatnot warning about the individual. No, I am not really all that curious - I AM what you would call a cheapskate - and probably wouldn't spend 6k on something no matter how limited it was. I DO think, however, that people deserve to have some kind of ... fair warning when scam artists pull these types of stunts.

Actually, Nikki, spendthrift and cheapskate are opposites.

Its not cool for a person to claim something is a limited edition, then turn around and "unlimit" it to get more money. It is as misleading as claiming an item has a certain scripted function when in reality it does not, and anyone buying one of the "limited" edition items are due a refund.

Seen this in other games.

Mostly in other games I ask about the seller and find out about their reputation *before* buying anything called "limited" because of this problem.

Maybe a script that the seller enters how many items are to be sold as 'limited' that stops them from selling the items after the limit is hit. After that the item is locked... stopping even the creator with permissions that are deemed as 'limited' meaning: no sell, no copy, no transfer.

Duplicating the item and selling it as something else (when it's not) could go against the rules?

Just a thought. It has flaws. That's why it's called a "theory."

This is what the rating system is for.

Before you believe somebody about something like that, peek at their profile and see what their ratings are. Do they have a lot of plusses and few negs? Have they been in the game a long time? Ok, then you can probably believe them.

If they break a promise, neg rate them. Of course, that doesn't undo the wrong, but it does make it harder for rip-off artists.

You have to take everything with a grain of salt anyway -- SL is nearly unregulated, so shit happens.

Buster