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Wheee! My Feature Voting system got published :-O

Azelda Garcia
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04-14-2005 01:57
Wheee! My Feature Voting system went live :-O

It's appearance has changed a little, but it's basically the same system.

Really exciting!

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Chris Wilde
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04-14-2005 03:01
I was going to vote against your voting system but at the time we didnt have a voting system. [/joke]
Essence Lumin
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04-14-2005 04:41
Are the 10 votes we get forever and ever or will we get more in 6 months or a year?
Chris Wilde
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04-14-2005 04:44
From: Essence Lumin
Are the 10 votes we get forever and ever or will we get more in 6 months or a year?

I think as stuff gets approved or removed, your votes get freed up. Also you can remove a vote from one thing, freeing it up to vote on something else. But yes I think 10 is your total # of votes.
Eata Kitty
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04-14-2005 05:20
Being able to set multiple votes concerns me a bit. A group with a vested interest could easily launch a feature very high by having all their members vote 10 on it. Of course there's no guarantee that it would get approved but it could give the wrong impression of what people want.
Shadow Weaver
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04-14-2005 05:38
Before I start, Im not complaining just curious so please bear with me.

If from what I have seen so far there are 50 Items on the list and only 10 votes.
What signified that 10 votes were adequate?

additionally would it be simply based on the abilities of LL to comply with the requests?

((again not I am not against this in anyway I think its a great addition to get things brought foward as its kinda relates to what I mentioned yesterday when someone so ardently tried to smite me.))

My next question would be how do we get the masses to participate?

How do we avoid having Multiple Alts to get their "Wants" through if only a small handfull here that know about it post their votes?

This a great tool for LL to prioritize.

But this brings to mind some other questions such as.

How long before LL makes a decision and posts its commentary to a topic that is being voted on?

Will they Publish a Release List from where they have selected 10 or more Topics to focus on for the next Release?

Reason I ask this even though its a Great tool to prioritize there are limitations as to what can and cannot be added to a release. Meaning Time is a constraint.

For instance each person sets their votes and LL Creates a Priority List. From this Priority list they announce say 10 of the Items that they are working on for the next release. Anything that was left over goes back to the Pot or the list we currently have to allow people to readjust their votes.

But due to the time constraints LL would have to stick to the 10 that they picked for the next release simply because changing horses midstream is a set back instead of an advancement.

Additionally maybe LL should create a Next Release Forum where those 10 selected Items are featured as topics of debate. Doing this might allow the developers to get additional feed back on those specific features. Who knows they may run into an issue that prevents them from incorporating it due to a multitude of things. Making a forum like this would allow them to notify the populace that there is a problem and why it may be being pushed back.

Anyway this was just some Ideas that came to mind and I thought I would write them down before they escaped me.

Have a good day and Im glad they put it up.

Sincerely, Shadow
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Oh please!
04-14-2005 05:43
From: Eata Kitty
Being able to set multiple votes concerns me a bit. A group with a vested interest could easily launch a feature very high by having all their members vote 10 on it. Of course there's no guarantee that it would get approved but it could give the wrong impression of what people want.


Oh please.........Some of us do have brains to know which are good and which are bad.come on! We don`t just do iit because the head chicken tells us! please!
Kris Ritter
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04-14-2005 05:47
Then we need a new head chicken!

Vote me for head chicken!

I'll go add it to the feature list proposals now.
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04-14-2005 05:49
From: Kris Ritter
Then we need a new head chicken!

Vote me for head chicken!

I'll go add it to the feature list proposals now.


Thats what we need a little humor :)
Shadow Weaver
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04-14-2005 05:50
From: Usagi Musashi
Oh please.........Some of us do have brains to know which are good and which are bad.come on! We don`t just do iit because the head chicken tells us! please!


True, Usagi but what about the head Chicken that has 25 alts on 5 seperate credit cards??

25 alts=1 head

just Imagine 4 head Chickens with 25 alts each.
Thats what 1000 votes betwinxt them for one feature?

I think thats what Eata may be kind of eluding to.

Shadow
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04-14-2005 06:00
From: Shadow Weaver
True, Usagi but what about the head Chicken that has 25 alts on 5 seperate credit cards??

25 alts=1 head

just Imagine 4 head Chickens with 25 alts each.
Thats what 1000 votes betwinxt them for one feature?

I think thats what Eata may be kind of eluding to.

Shadow


ALts is a different story. Grant you there are owners that might do this. But the good ones dont have too. The bad will do this.:)

Understood and repect thought!

If thats what she was refering it might have been but the word (alt) was not written.It assumed that just because the head person telles us to do DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE TO!
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04-14-2005 06:04
From: Shadow Weaver
True, Usagi but what about the head Chicken that has 25 alts on 5 seperate credit cards??

25 alts=1 head

just Imagine 4 head Chickens with 25 alts each.
Thats what 1000 votes betwinxt them for one feature?

I think thats what Eata may be kind of eluding to.

Shadow


4 Headed Chickens???

um thats just scary
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04-14-2005 06:08
From: Dakota LaFollette
4 Headed Chickens???

um thats just scary


Sounds Like MY Ex SL partner :)
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04-14-2005 06:08
actually I think it's scarier to think someone would have 25 alts. :eek:
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04-14-2005 06:10
From: Kris Ritter
actually I think it's scarier to think someone would have 25 alts. :eek:


Hey Look at the old school players can easy have 25 alts.....And the more likely do.....Gesh I wish LL would crack down on these fools.
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04-14-2005 08:07
From: Usagi Musashi
ALts is a different story. Grant you there are owners that might do this. But the good ones dont have too. The bad will do this.:)

Understood and repect thought!

If thats what she was refering it might have been but the word (alt) was not written.It assumed that just because the head person telles us to do DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE TO!


Understood and your correct the members of a group don't have to follow the Leader or they would be Lemmings..LOL

But its the Alt option that does tend to peak my curiosity.

To think 8 people could effectively control the vote of a given Item with a mass quantity of 2000 votes per hit. Imagine that if it was done repeatedly per update.

And people wonder why I am against player controlled governments...<<rolls eyes

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04-14-2005 08:49
From: Shadow Weaver
Understood and your correct the members of a group don't have to follow the Leader or they would be Lemmings..LOL

But its the Alt option that does tend to peak my curiosity.

To think 8 people could effectively control the vote of a given Item with a mass quantity of 2000 votes per hit. Imagine that if it was done repeatedly per update.

And people wonder why I am against player controlled governments...<<rolls eyes

Shadow



The one thing about this though is that while a group could theoretically railroad a vote, a popular vote does not necessarily translate into a new feature committment by the Lindens. Each proposal still needs to be approved/rejected by the Lindens, so too much abuse of the process by any select group is likely to draw attention to themselves, and also increase the likelihood their proposals will be rejected.

All in all, I think of the feature vote more as a feedback mechanism, rather than anything else. It's still a great improvement over the limited, ad-hoc feedback mechanisms that we've had before.


- Newfie
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04-14-2005 08:54
Awsome! 'Grats Az!
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04-14-2005 09:14
From: Newfie Pendragon
The one thing about this though is that while a group could theoretically railroad a vote, a popular vote does not necessarily translate into a new feature committment by the Lindens. Each proposal still needs to be approved/rejected by the Lindens, so too much abuse of the process by any select group is likely to draw attention to themselves, and also increase the likelihood their proposals will be rejected.

All in all, I think of the feature vote more as a feedback mechanism, rather than anything else. It's still a great improvement over the limited, ad-hoc feedback mechanisms that we've had before.


- Newfie


True Newfie, although there is that thought that will be in the backs of peoples minds.

I guess the next question would be.
Will Linden Lab give us a definitive feedback answer as to why they Canned a proposal?

It would be interesting to know how many proposals were canned in this style of coup.

But you know that even leads to a new question.
How many would use that tactic to have proposals they wanted canned?
By simply over posting votes to it to inadvertantly Kill it due to excessive votes.

Again I am not against this voting thing at all I am all for it but some of the methods on how it can be abused needs to be brought to the forefront of peoples minds so that they have the ability to Question.

Shadow
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Tiger Crossing
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04-14-2005 19:57
Hmm... Once placed, I can't edit my votes.
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04-14-2005 20:15
From: Tiger Crossing
Hmm... Once placed, I can't edit my votes.


Same. Where do we report bugs on features not in the client? :P *looks for a Report Bug button on website*
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04-15-2005 10:45
From: Tiger Crossing
Hmm... Once placed, I can't edit my votes.


Fixed.
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04-16-2005 07:22
From: Shadow Weaver
Understood and your correct the members of a group don't have to follow the Leader or they would be Lemmings..LOL

But its the Alt option that does tend to peak my curiosity.

To think 8 people could effectively control the vote of a given Item with a mass quantity of 2000 votes per hit. Imagine that if it was done repeatedly per update.

And people wonder why I am against player controlled governments...<<rolls eyes

Shadow



8 might a a running guessing number...But its understood. LOL we should have some say.