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Jai Nomad

English Rose

Join date: 23 Jul 2003

Posts: 157

12-04-2003 02:55

Okay, can someone explain this to me.. take a look at..

http://fritx.net/stuff/pix/021203-Photo_10.gif

Count the people, wait for it to shuffle around - then count them again..

Bizarre.

Cailyn Miller

mmm.... shiny

Join date: 11 Mar 2003

Posts: 369

12-04-2003 03:22

Thanks Jai - I've just spent 10 mins staring at that damn picture and it's driving me up the wall.

<-- shouldn't stay up til midnight in the welcome area

I'm now going to try the engineers approach and take it to bits

Jai Nomad

English Rose

Join date: 23 Jul 2003

Posts: 157

12-04-2003 03:29

Haha.. it is maddening isn't it. I stared at it for half an hour and still couldn't suss it out.

Garoad Kuroda

Prophet of Muppetry

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,989

12-04-2003 03:44

What the heck is that? WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

DAMNIT JAI WHAT DID YOU DO TO TIME AND SPACE? Did you break the 1st life physics engine? WHY IS THE ROOM I'M IN GETTING SMALLER???

Hawk Statosky

Camouflage tourist

Join date: 11 Nov 2003

Posts: 175

12-04-2003 05:14

It looks like when they shuffle everyone loses 1/12th of their height, and it's cleverly arranged that the spare bits match up to an extra bod. Or most of one. If you look, after the change most people are missing chunks - a pair of shorts, the top of their head, etc...

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Jai Nomad

English Rose

Join date: 23 Jul 2003

Posts: 157

12-04-2003 06:54

Yes i kinda thought that too Hawk, but no amount of staring at each character showed me where one was lost/gained.

Eddie Escher

Builder of things...

Join date: 11 Jul 2003

Posts: 461

12-04-2003 07:55

Ok, I have no idea how that feakin' thing works... It's bending my brain in an uncomfortable way...

Really, I just posted here to get three brit's in a row

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Jai Nomad

English Rose

Join date: 23 Jul 2003

Posts: 157

12-04-2003 08:06

Someone has posted a solution of sorts to me, so once we have let our cousins on the wrong side of the Atlantic have a go I may post it.

Good to see more brits in game though Eddie.. and very close to me irl.. spooky.

Eddie Escher

Builder of things...

Join date: 11 Jul 2003

Posts: 461

12-04-2003 08:13

...and joined in the same month, Jai - double spooky!

I'm not sure I even have your callingcard - hatfa check/rectify that next time I'm IW for any length of time.

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Chip Midnight

ate my baby!

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 10,231

12-04-2003 08:42

It's making my head hurt trying to figure it out, but here's one interesting thing... the guy all the way on the left loses the top of his head in the second state. It becomes the top of someone else's head and he doesn't get it back. But how one small clump of hair becomes the 13th person is beyond my pre-coffee cognitive abilities.

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Sean Rutherford

^_^

Join date: 25 Oct 2003

Posts: 88

12-04-2003 09:08

Count the feet.

The second person in from the upper right initial state, loses only a slight portion of his/her feet, but still has enough to look like a full NEW set of feet. This is our 13th pair of feet.

Now where does the new body come from, thats from the optical illusion generated by the slicing and dicing of everyone's body to some extend. So that when re-aligned the originals all look like a person, only slightly altered, and the person mentioned above in the first paragraph, looks like a full new body.

^_^

-sean

Nergal Fallingbridge

meep.

Join date: 26 Jun 2003

Posts: 677

12-04-2003 13:30

O_o

It slices, it dices, it juliennes!

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Garoad Kuroda

Prophet of Muppetry

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,989

12-04-2003 16:42

I thought it was making one by shortening another, but I still can't really figure out what's happening. I noticed the hair thing too Chip...but it didn't help.

And I even took the thing apart in AnimationShop to see the frames individually, it didn't help! I've watched it slow, fast (don't do that, it gives you a headache), stared, yelled and lost my sanity over this.

The best way to figure it out would be to "color code" each guy (I guess when there are 13 of them). Shade them each a different color and see how it ends up. But you'd have to carefully alter each frame to do this which would be a real pain. lol

Either that....OR

THE MATRIX IS REAL AND THIS IS AN ANOMOLY! THIS IS THE PROOF: *dies from agent attack*

Dionysus Starseeker

Mostly Harmless

Join date: 31 Dec 1969

Posts: 764

12-04-2003 17:19

It's the second gunman on the grassy knoll. He jumps in and disappears!!!

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Arito Cotton

Still Addicted

Join date: 25 Aug 2003

Posts: 131

12-04-2003 21:06

Interesting illusion.

I've attached a color-coded copy of the start and end states.

Totaling the pixel size for each person, 859 is the result in both states, meaning the average pixel size of a person in the start state is 71.58 and the average pixel size of a person in the end state is 66.08. Each person loses an average of 5.5 pixels to the "new guy" during the transition.

Am I bored? You be the judge. ^_^

Darwin Appleby

I Was Beaten With Satan

Join date: 14 Mar 2003

Posts: 2,779

12-04-2003 21:06

http://fritx.net/stuff/

Read some of them ebooks.

Does anyone dare download that trip32.exe thing? I don't dare run it! who wants to go first?

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Touche.

Garoad Kuroda

Prophet of Muppetry

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,989

12-05-2003 00:59

Ah, crap Arito that doesn't even help! You wouldn't happen to be bored enough to animate it like that now would you? lol... still probably wouldn't help

I'm telling you, this proves it...the matrix is real, and this is an anomaly. Remember the first one? If Deja Vu is an anomaly in the matrix than this could be too.

Just don't blame me when the agents show up because we're trying to figure this out. lol

(btw no matrix 3 spoilers here please, or I'll...spam your email or something)

Misnomer Jones

3 is the magic number

Join date: 27 Jan 2003

Posts: 1,800

12-05-2003 01:04

looking at the color copy the teal guy by #77 moves and keeps his feet while also leaving a pair behind. The red guy #62 also sheds some hair but keeps enough so he looks whole. The purple guy #68 leaves his legs behind below the shorts but arrives in his new loc with purple legs. I didnt look at it much beyond that 'cause its really late and Im tired.

Seems to me they harvest bits to make a new whole but its difficult to really figure out. Very clever and well done!

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Eggy Lippmann

Wiktator

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 7,939

12-05-2003 01:57

From: someone

Originally posted by Darwin Appleby
http://fritx.net/stuff/

Read some of them ebooks.

Does anyone dare download that trip32.exe thing? I don't dare run it! who wants to go first?

trip23.exe is a demo. Cubes rotating around a common center, and around themselves as well. trivial to do in sl.

Darwin Appleby

I Was Beaten With Satan

Join date: 14 Mar 2003

Posts: 2,779

12-05-2003 18:31

Read the ebooks though. Mainly in the religion catagory.

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Khamon Fate

fategardens.net

Join date: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 4,177

12-05-2003 19:57

i keep forgetting how many i counted by the time they're reshuffled so i don't know what y'all are talking about. i may be slow, but i'm happy!

seriously jai, this is pretty cool.

Very much Off-Topic.. a visual puzzle
Jai Nomad English Rose Join date: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 157	12-04-2003 02:55 Okay, can someone explain this to me.. take a look at.. http://fritx.net/stuff/pix/021203-Photo_10.gif Count the people, wait for it to shuffle around - then count them again.. Bizarre.
Cailyn Miller mmm.... shiny Join date: 11 Mar 2003 Posts: 369	12-04-2003 03:22 Thanks Jai - I've just spent 10 mins staring at that damn picture and it's driving me up the wall. <-- shouldn't stay up til midnight in the welcome area I'm now going to try the engineers approach and take it to bits
Jai Nomad English Rose Join date: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 157	12-04-2003 03:29 Haha.. it is maddening isn't it. I stared at it for half an hour and still couldn't suss it out.
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	12-04-2003 03:44 What the heck is that? WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? DAMNIT JAI WHAT DID YOU DO TO TIME AND SPACE? Did you break the 1st life physics engine? WHY IS THE ROOM I'M IN GETTING SMALLER???
Hawk Statosky Camouflage tourist Join date: 11 Nov 2003 Posts: 175	12-04-2003 05:14 It looks like when they shuffle everyone loses 1/12th of their height, and it's cleverly arranged that the spare bits match up to an extra bod. Or most of one. If you look, after the change most people are missing chunks - a pair of shorts, the top of their head, etc... _____________________ This .sig has been cancelled due to lack of interest.
Jai Nomad English Rose Join date: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 157	12-04-2003 06:54 Yes i kinda thought that too Hawk, but no amount of staring at each character showed me where one was lost/gained.
Eddie Escher Builder of things... Join date: 11 Jul 2003 Posts: 461	12-04-2003 07:55 Ok, I have no idea how that feakin' thing works... It's bending my brain in an uncomfortable way... Really, I just posted here to get three brit's in a row _____________________ Eddie Escher ...apparently 3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the population here... Eddie Escher Gadgets & Skins: Hotei and Seacliff
Jai Nomad English Rose Join date: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 157	12-04-2003 08:06 Someone has posted a solution of sorts to me, so once we have let our cousins on the wrong side of the Atlantic have a go I may post it. Good to see more brits in game though Eddie.. and very close to me irl.. spooky.
Eddie Escher Builder of things... Join date: 11 Jul 2003 Posts: 461	12-04-2003 08:13 ...and joined in the same month, Jai - double spooky! I'm not sure I even have your callingcard - hatfa check/rectify that next time I'm IW for any length of time. _____________________ Eddie Escher ...apparently 3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the population here... Eddie Escher Gadgets & Skins: Hotei and Seacliff
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	12-04-2003 08:42 It's making my head hurt trying to figure it out, but here's one interesting thing... the guy all the way on the left loses the top of his head in the second state. It becomes the top of someone else's head and he doesn't get it back. But how one small clump of hair becomes the 13th person is beyond my pre-coffee cognitive abilities. _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
Sean Rutherford ^_^ Join date: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 88	12-04-2003 09:08 Count the feet. The second person in from the upper right initial state, loses only a slight portion of his/her feet, but still has enough to look like a full NEW set of feet. This is our 13th pair of feet. Now where does the new body come from, thats from the optical illusion generated by the slicing and dicing of everyone's body to some extend. So that when re-aligned the originals all look like a person, only slightly altered, and the person mentioned above in the first paragraph, looks like a full new body. ^_^ -sean
Nergal Fallingbridge meep. Join date: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 677	12-04-2003 13:30 O_o It slices, it dices, it juliennes! _____________________ powered by caffeine since 1998! "In such ugly times, the only true protest is beauty." -- Phil Ochs
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	12-04-2003 16:42 I thought it was making one by shortening another, but I still can't really figure out what's happening. I noticed the hair thing too Chip...but it didn't help. And I even took the thing apart in AnimationShop to see the frames individually, it didn't help! I've watched it slow, fast (don't do that, it gives you a headache), stared, yelled and lost my sanity over this. The best way to figure it out would be to "color code" each guy (I guess when there are 13 of them). Shade them each a different color and see how it ends up. But you'd have to carefully alter each frame to do this which would be a real pain. lol Either that....OR THE MATRIX IS REAL AND THIS IS AN ANOMOLY! THIS IS THE PROOF: dies from agent attack
Dionysus Starseeker Mostly Harmless Join date: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 764	12-04-2003 17:19 It's the second gunman on the grassy knoll. He jumps in and disappears!!! _____________________ Life beyond Second Life? Nah... "...you will get as many answers as people you ask." -- Kenichi Chen hehe... yep
Arito Cotton Still Addicted Join date: 25 Aug 2003 Posts: 131	12-04-2003 21:06 Interesting illusion. I've attached a color-coded copy of the start and end states. Totaling the pixel size for each person, 859 is the result in both states, meaning the average pixel size of a person in the start state is 71.58 and the average pixel size of a person in the end state is 66.08. Each person loses an average of 5.5 pixels to the "new guy" during the transition. Am I bored? You be the judge. ^_^
Darwin Appleby I Was Beaten With Satan Join date: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 2,779	12-04-2003 21:06 http://fritx.net/stuff/ Read some of them ebooks. Does anyone dare download that trip32.exe thing? I don't dare run it! who wants to go first? _____________________ Touche.
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	12-05-2003 00:59 Ah, crap Arito that doesn't even help! You wouldn't happen to be bored enough to animate it like that now would you? lol... still probably wouldn't help I'm telling you, this proves it...the matrix is real, and this is an anomaly. Remember the first one? If Deja Vu is an anomaly in the matrix than this could be too. Just don't blame me when the agents show up because we're trying to figure this out. lol (btw no matrix 3 spoilers here please, or I'll...spam your email or something)
Misnomer Jones 3 is the magic number Join date: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 1,800	12-05-2003 01:04 looking at the color copy the teal guy by #77 moves and keeps his feet while also leaving a pair behind. The red guy #62 also sheds some hair but keeps enough so he looks whole. The purple guy #68 leaves his legs behind below the shorts but arrives in his new loc with purple legs. I didnt look at it much beyond that 'cause its really late and Im tired. Seems to me they harvest bits to make a new whole but its difficult to really figure out. Very clever and well done! _____________________
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	12-05-2003 01:57 From: someone Originally posted by Darwin Appleby http://fritx.net/stuff/ Read some of them ebooks. Does anyone dare download that trip32.exe thing? I don't dare run it! who wants to go first? trip23.exe is a demo. Cubes rotating around a common center, and around themselves as well. trivial to do in sl.
Darwin Appleby I Was Beaten With Satan Join date: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 2,779	12-05-2003 18:31 Read the ebooks though. Mainly in the religion catagory. _____________________ Touche.
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	12-05-2003 19:57 i keep forgetting how many i counted by the time they're reshuffled so i don't know what y'all are talking about. i may be slow, but i'm happy! seriously jai, this is pretty cool.

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