Will the Lindens tear it down?

I have seen several smallish structures built to extend over Linden land. I'm not talking about big, obtrusive things, but small overhangs that extend over a Linden road, or a skywalk between two structures on either side of a river. None were built so as to obstruct any possible traffic below.

I have looked at these, and they're always built so that the root prim is on private land, so any return (auto OR manual) is not going to catch them.

I'd rather not say where these exist, because all of the ones I've noticed don't seem to be a bother to anyone, and I'd hate for my comments to result in the Lindens taking note and removing the builds.

But what I'm wondering, especially since at least one of these structures is one that I've noticed for as long as I've been in SL, is if the Lindens tend to look the other way so long as the structure doesn't rudely intrude onto protected land.

Does anyone have any experience with this by either being told by the Lindens that it was OK, or having a build removed?

- Ace

I think it's mostly that there's a lot of land, and the Lindens rely on auto-return to deal with it. If nobody tells them about such a structure, they probably don't even know about it.

Ace I have seen this as well however, I have also seen the opposite where ther root prim was not over Linden land but a mere fraction of the corner and the whole build continually deleted because the notation said "This object has been returned to you ...blasay blasay blasay." In some instances its seems a blind eye is turned if the system doesnt catch it but I have noted in other situations it could be speculated favoritism but thats neither here nor there as the individual that it used to happen to quite frequently is no longer in the game due to it.

Shadow

I see nothing wrong with bridges across Linden-owned water, if they don't interfere with regular-sized boats (no 100m tall boats).

up until yesterday i had a lovely bridge across a river between two of my parcels. it remained for over a month with no problems. it was built by kris ritter and i think was not linked in the middle but the root prim was on each side of the river for each respective half. and i dont know any lindens, and if they have a brain in thier puddin heads they would prolly dis like kris so i dont think any favortism is involved in any way.

marilyn

Mary, my dear,

I love you and all but...

(a) Oh sure, blame me why dontcha!?

(b) shhh! don't give away my secrets to not getting stuff returned off other people's property. How can I frustrate the hell out of people by building over their land so they can't return it if you keep telling on me?!

(c) You're right. The Lindens don't like me. There definitely isnt any favoritism involved. Pfft - you need 3 private islands these days for a Linden to even acknowledge you.

(d) Stop f**king getting rid of stuff I build you within weeks *cry*

*Mwuah*

*PG SIM EDIT* for heavens sake, have you people never dealt with a benevolent oligharcy in your whole frellin lives? i mean really.

let this thread die before the lindens wind up in a position of having to make a point of deleting every tiny little overhanging prim from their land in order to maintain their appearance of detached fairness.

they already can't sell small bits of land directly to neighboring owners, are deleting top picks from the next ui, and can't officer groups because of our incessent questioning.

STOP

Sorry Khamon, you're disqualified for use of the term 'you people'.

I have a far more pressing question anyway: do you think you should always use virtual toilet paper when using a virtual toilet? or that just unnecessary and a bit silly? Ooh. I should start a poll.

It's indeed possible. It's one of those questions that's right up there with 'do you virtually floss after cybering?'

actually, i typed that intentionally after thinking about it for a minute. i know it's current conotation and it means exactly what i meant to say.

but thank you for officially disqualifying me. i'm not really yelling at those people, i'm sucking up to the lindens. but of course everybody knows that already.

no, i don't. and i'll be happy to vote in the poll

It looks like my question has been answered...

Its not OK, and will be removed when noticed.

- Ace

I actually caught a Linden in the process of removing about 4 prims that spilled over Linden land by a half-meter (1m thick wall, placed on the border.) So, with the Linden still hovering there, I put the prims right back where they had been. But, I did the link trick and made sure the prims didn't register on the Linden land. They remain to this day.

I could be wrong, because I didn't experiment much, but I don't think the root prim is the determining factor. I think it's the 'center of mass' of the linked set that counts.

I've found slapping them over the head with a giant prim penis does the trick though.

Siggy.

In my very limited experience, overhangs that trouble no one are left alone. But Lindens have responded to overhangs and "lost" prims that were littering Linden land. Then again, that was a year ago when there were 30ish sims, space was really tight, and every square meter was precious. Personally, I'd apply the golden rule regarding the ethics of overhangs, but not count on the item not being returned.

Ugh.

If they start taking careful attention to this, or if the community, in its infinite wisdom, gets a hair up their ass about prims hanging over linden land, South Grignano is screwed.

Can we make this a non-issue and let it drop? Thanks.

LF

I agree with Lordfly. I really, really don't see a problem with parts of a few small prims hanging a half-meter over Linden restricted land, as long as it restricts nothing, blocks nothing, etc. If a huge case is made out of this, a lot of people are going to find pieces of their builds back in inventory. The hassle isn't worth it.

Seems klutzy and unprofessional to not respect property lines. Half a meter probably not a big deal when its Linden land, but if thats okay then surely its okay to build over your neighbors land too. Build a renegade bridge and enjoy it as long as you can. Simple solution, stay on your property and dont worry about it.

Sometimes this is totally necessary.

LindenLabs goes and builds all these roads but we can't use them because we can't build driveways onto the roads and can't rez on linden lab land.

Which is very very annoying..

Personaly I think as long as it doesn't become intrusive or obstructive to anyone, then it should stay.

There are many cool bridges in SL that could not exist if every build that did this was "taken care of".

Also there are alot of areas where if you weren't able to do this, alot of stuff would look like crap because of spacing. Prime example is in the city sims, residents could not have sidewalks that go to the street if you couldn't set the root of a link set on your land and not have it returned.

So I say unless its causing issues or someone AR's it, let it stand.

If you build something out onto Linden land, then link it to a root object that is on your own land, do the linked objects count toward the total prims allowed on your land or on the Linden land? Or does it totally depend on where the object sits as to which prim allotment it counts against? Because if it counts toward your own prim allotment, then some overhang on Linden land is no big deal, IMHO.

Here, here! Khamon has my vote.

if the parent is on your land, the entire prim count is against your land, not theirs.

put the shoe on our foot. the lindens have a store built on my property in luna. the entire thing is offlinked to a parent prim on their neighbouring land so that that it doesn't cost me a single prim. should i delete the structure because it's in my way? of course not, they've done an excellent job of building a good looking, low texture shopping complex for us. aside from the fact that char would yank a knot in my tail, why would i want to mess that up?

I am glad this thread has resurfaced and hope that someone will be able to help out in some way. I have looked everyplace I can think and can't find a solution.

I have three parcels of property that are separated by short waterways. Though I know I *could* build illegal bridges between the properties unitl they were discovered, I would prefer a legal solution and provide some sort of self-navigating, recreational "shuttle boat" that, upon boarding, would travel a fixed route ride from one dock to the next.

Though I have read that such a task is actually quite easy for fixed-point destination coordinates for land/water vehicles, sadly I have absolutely no understanding of scripting and no programing abilities what-so-ever. So far I have had no luck in finding a script that will do this.

I do want to stay legal and keep the waterways clear of any obstructions - and I am sure the neighbors would appreciate not having boaters slamming into their property due to newbie powerboating skills. Seems like it could be useful for a variety of situations that this thread is addressing.

Anyone know where such a script may be found?