Selling items

Hello,
I have been playing SL now for about 6 months and am still having a hard time figuring things out. I am not a premium member (i only paid the one time fee of 9.99) From what i have seen and read about it seems you must be a computer genius to benifit from a monthly paid membership. However I have a question ...Is it possible to sell items from my inventory that i have aquired along the way. My inventory is so cluttered up and full it takes me forever just to find something in the massive list of items i have. There seems to me there should be a way to resell stuff in my inventory. Can someone help me with this. Surely i have more options than to just delete stuff from my inv that i paid a lot for. How do i sell items or what can i do with all my good junk that i have outgrown??? Any help would be appreciated. Do i have to have a premium membership to contribute to the economy?
Thanks always..Lulu!

Lulu:

Let me start with your last question first. Anything you have acquired, by paying MONIES for, you probably shouldn't be re-selling. Unless of course you get the creator's permission. Otherwise, this is probably going to be an issue with the Intellectual Property Rights of the individual that sold you the item.

Now, let's take a look at your first statement. You believe it takes a rocket genius to get fun out of SL? Well, the easiest way I can respond to that is, "Did you have any fun at all collecting all that junk in your inventory?". If you did, then why do you think going to a monthly charge, where you could actually own land, build your own house, throw parties for your friends, would be rocket science?

I will be the first to tell you, some things in SL aren't easy, but that doesn't mean you need a degree from MIT to have fun here

I hope you give it more consideration when it comes to making up your mind about paying for a montly subscription

Not true...as long as it isn't copyable and shes selling it just to get rid of clutter I see no problem. If she were selling copyable stuff thats a different story.

Oh No not again........

Lulu, as long as the item is marked Transferable, it is very POSSIBLE to sell anything. How ever, some people in Second Life feel it is unethical to sell an item you did not create yourself. As I stated in a debate in this forum last week, I feel if you own it, and the creator left the possibility open, you have all the rights to do what you wish with that single copy of that item.

I think the consensus from that thead was that selling your transferable goods is largly accepted and even encouraged by most designers. It was the act of buying an inventory of transferrable good and selling at a profit that was looked down upon.

But ya, Lulu you could save yourself a world of headaches by taking the 2 seconds to IM the creator and ask how they feel about the practice of reselling their transferrable products.

I don't make my textures non-copiable because if I did the builders would have to buy a copy of said texture everytime they want to use it; and I think that's just silly.

Just because I don't mark my textures non-transferable, non-copiable, non-whatever, doesn't mean I give up my Intellectual Property Rights.


Thanks!

Good points Bob. When are they coming out with the 'wrapper' permissions that were talked about ? My opinion is if the item is no-copy/transfer then selling it is a-ok to get rid of it. Wouldn't it be a huge pain in the arse if GM, Ford, Mopar thought this way. Thanks for buying our vehicle but you may never ever sell it.

When you buy a car/truck/boat/motorcycle/house etc., the seller gives you the TITLE (when it's fully paid for) that states you own the house,it's all yours.

The different in this analogy and my textures is, I DON'T give you explicit rights to the product, therefore, you don't have the right to re-sell it.

On the other hand, as a builder, when I build someone a house, I sell that house to them, with the express purpose and intent that this is now their property, and they can do whatever they like with it.

Another comparison to clear this up. I have a cable modem at home. It's a top of the line model, and you cannot believ how fast it can go! The Cable company own this, but have given me limited rights to use it. This is the same sort of thing when someone buys a texture from me, I grant them limited rights to uise the texture, but I certainly don't grant them full property rights, so they can do whatever they wish to do with it.

And if your wanting to sell your no-copy trans items i have a second hand yard I im all creators so you don't have to worry about any moral issues either.

Lots of people have a Yard Sale to empty there inventory if you don't have any land ask a friend if you can hold it on there land. Id be happy to let you use some of my land

Bob I feel the owner of an OBJECT should be able to do what ever they want with it. Certain things in world I do not look at as objects such as textures and scripts and in some situations, animations.

I really wish better permissions were the top priority in the next update to protect people such as yourself.

Bob, I explicitly wasn't referring to your items as they are copy/transfer. My analogy was specifically for no copy/transfer.

I agree with the hopeful majority. If you own any of my products, you have the right to sell it. (Unless I made it copyable, of course.) It is the creators responsibility to set the permissions. If someone is exploiting a permissions bug then that's completely different, that should be treated on an individual basis. Some creators need to realize the actions they performed and said in world and in the forums will effect their sales. I've know a lot of avid shoppers who will avoid buying from certain creators because of the things they do no matter the quality of products.

Ya know I think I'm going to become a SL lawyer.

Is there a Law School in Second Life that I can attend?

Yes. For a modest tuition of $50,000L I will teach you everything you need to know.

Ok Schwan.

Now is there a bank that can loan me the money to go to Law School?

Don't look at ME mister. I'm already making you a HAT.

I also think that non-copyable objects should be able to be re-sold. In real life if you buy something you can generally re-sell it if you no longer want it..ie..garage sales. Hey there is an idea...a SL garage sale to empty our inventories of items we no longer want and then go buy more items that we do want.

I don't think there is anything wrong with trying to get back some money that you paid for an object or clothing that you no longer want as long as it's not more than you origionally paid for it.

Feel free to disagree with me though.

=O

Bu.. But Aimee!... I swear I'll pay you back in legal services! =D

if it's more than you originally paid for it then good for you for making a profit. if the sign says "garage sale" that means stuff is used and that means it's probably available for another price some place else. doesn't mean it's always a higher price some place else. caveat emptor, a fool and his money and such.

just be aware they might come back mad later.