Irish American

This is off-topic...go figure I was wonderign if I could sue the American govt. for calling me white instead of Irish-American since 4 generations ago...my family was Irish. You know where this is going

Um, if your Irish chances are your white

Hey how do you think I feel? Four generations ago, my ancestors were Irish and black. And now I only get to be black, sorry African American. I want to be African Irish American! or Irish African American! Yeah Right!

Yeah, I know where this is going. I wish that you went with it.

Sure can. Call a friend, call a lawyer.

http://freeadvice.com/

They will be able to help you on your quest more than any of us here could.

Good luck!

- T -

Ill call you Irish Afriacan American if that makes you happy

Actually April meant to say she wanted to be called

" a friggin Irish American"

BB

Aw pfft, I'm a Jew and they call me white. 2 generations ago, my family was Russian AND Jewish.

I'd rather the government call me "Gay Russian Jewish Accountant," but I ain't complaining. Although I should be, because that's the Jewish stereotype.

Hope you win, Drew! Good luck. I want to see some Irish on the census.

Well, then I should be called an "Irish-Scottish-Native American-American"

Irish are more of a 'pale blue' -- after a week in florida they turn white.

2 more weeks they turn red, then all thier skin falls off and they go back to being pale blue again.

Siggy.

Haven't you heard of the famous black Irishman named Paddy O'Malley?

All of those monickers actually do nothing but forge a deeper rift in society. Why can't we all just be human? Why do we have to seperate ourselves into something as base as melanin content or the gpa location of our ancestory? Why do we have this aching need to belong to a sub-group and then further compartmentalize ourselves into another grouping within a sub-group when we already belong to the human race? I am not sure that we will ever know.

Why do I have to be human?

(sly conspiritorial tone)
And who says I even *am* human anyways eh?
(nudge, wink, with single pants leg rolled halfway up as a sly masonic reference)

Siggy.

You are a race of your own Sigmeister. In fact you should all call me Pantone 4665 c-American. I am not an <insert some lineage here> slash american. I am a color brought to you by the letter C and Photoshop.

I'm Automaton American














~Olympia~

Mutt-American here. That would be Italian-German-Scotch/Irish-Cherokee-American to you!

I call for the immediate formation of the Mutt-American Anti-Defamation Defense League! I want some perks, damn it!

My baby brother and I are aliens, we were aware of this from birth. Everyone else just thought we needed drugs or something, but we knew.


Evlis is not Dead - He's just gone home.

There will always be labels... just like how there will always be an oppressed minority; its how society works.

Not really but it is how the elite hope that society will work. So long as people are consumed with family trees and pigment, we will not have time to bother with the real issues. After all skin color and the birth place of some great aunt Bertha whom you never met must be more important than what the little man behind the curtain is up to, right? Consuming ourselves with history is not akin to learning from history and consuming ourselves with skin tone is not akin to realizing our differences and understanding our similarity. Nationalism, racism, religionism...It doesn't matter which ism we pigeon hole ourselves into we always end up missing out on the greatness of being part of this present world. If we were all blind how would we segregate ourselves? If all the continents were still in the form of Pangaea would we still try to seperate ourselves into nations? If Jesus and Muhammad were to meet up on the corner of Haight & Ashbury to compare notes would their be a muslim/christian rift? If Siddhartha swung by I am sure that there would not be a problem...cause buddha wasn't a christian but jesus would have made a good buddhist. They would likely all tell us that we lost the meaning in translation. We decide to continue this battle of ism's and ist's. It is a conflict of our creation and untill we decide to stop trying to get one over on each other it will continue.

I should sue as well. I want to be able to check a box on my gov't forms that is labeled "Hot biatch".

Irish? Usually it ends up at a pub, doesn't it?

Without an underdog, society would'nt function in an accomodating manner... for anyone... I mean, we can't ALL be on the same level... You make a good point though.

There is no need to be on the same level if you are on the level with yourself. What levels are you talking about anyhow? Would you be suggesting that a doctor is of more import than a ditch digger? Not really, cause without those ditches the malaria would be a bitch. There are people suited for certain positions but each position is just as necessary as any other. These positions, however, do not necessitate social heirarchy based on ideas as archaic as skin color, the land mass where your great-great uncle Gustav happened to be concieved on, or the book that your family uses as a blueprint for constructing their personal stairway to 10,000 vigins and rivers of milk and honey.
These are easy ideas to dwell on because they require little brain juice and most folks reserve that for the really complex issues such as which ring tone to put on their new Annoyextel flip picture phone.

...That makes no sense whatsoever... whats your point?..



If all the garbage men went on an abrupt strike for example... we'd end up having to burn our filthy trash in our own backyards; which in turn would give us filthy air and make us all sick and make most of us die.

But to answer your question, If the ditch diggers went on strike... it'd just cause more dead bodies to burry which in turn would lead to more disease and sickness since theres nobody to burry it!

You cant have a best if you dont have a worst. If everyone were equal and had the same amount of money the economy would'nt fuction. The fact that theres a low class and a high class is a course of evolution... its just the inherent qualities between us. (different backrounds, ect).

You have to relize that being low and high is really subjective, depending on your point of view. You know how the principles of evolution work right? If everyone was the best then nobody would be the best. If everyone is the same there would be no distinction between anyone. The distinction can also be looked upon as evolution. Think about it economical terms; if everybody had the same amount of money, there would be no poor or rich. The economy itself would'nt be able to function; thats the idea behind capitalism. If there were no class, then everybody would automatically be poor, everybody would be the same, and there would never be any progress. Something HAS to be something different for a process to occur. Its a system of balance so to speak. There can be no high paying jobs if there are no low paying jobs.

EDIT: Im African American by the way, Isis. But just because im black dosent mean im all about reparations and ect... Its funny though... how people automatically assume that im white because of this.

If you are full aware of your cognitive abilities and you are able to seperate your true self worth from the archaic physical factors associated with most human sorting systems, you will not care what level society chooses to place you in because you are on the level where you belong. That was what I meant by one being on the level with oneself. Using race, nationality or religion as a contributing factor to the worth of an individual is a banal assumption which should be abolished by human kind.

Religion, nationality and race are not subjective due to the fact that they are concrete in terms of mans use of these factors to sort the population. We do not say that Joe is 30 percent Irish, we say that Joe is simply Irish American. Neither do we rank a person in regards to the amount of religion they obtian or inherit. We say that Sally is Christian and Elliot is Muslim, instead of saying that Sally is a 90 on the scale of christianity and Elliot is a 82 or the muslim scale. These are very basic sorting systems which are based on factors not proven to be functional traits. Elliot is not of lesser value simply because he is muslim. If Elliot is an engineer, his abilities are not lessened by his religion. These sorting methods have no true value other than uneducated rationalizations for bigotry and segregation.

In a mail room one first sorts the mail into very basic departments and then the sorting system becomes a bit more complex by further sorting to the various departmental secretaries who then sort the mail by function. Humans strive to sort ourselves in a similar manner first by race, then by nationality, then by religion and then further by ones function in society. Compartmentalization by function and apptitude is an important factor in the creation of a competative social heirarchy. But the use of physical traits and ancesteral lineage to compartmentalize a person is ineffective and has no scientific or sociological credence in the structuring of a capitalist society beyond focusing those of less cognitive apptitude on base generalizations in an underhanded attempt to control the populous.