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Akuma Withnail

Money costs too much

Join date: 29 Aug 2004

Posts: 347

01-12-2005 20:37

Police waiting with PARKING TICKETS for returning soldiers. WTF? Now I'm against this war in every way but good lord, how low can you go?

http://www.guerrillanews.com/articles/article.php?id=1054

Juro Kothari

Like a dog on a bone

Join date: 4 Sep 2003

Posts: 4,418

01-12-2005 21:32

Well... first, they should've paid those tickets.

BUT... the police could've let them have the dignity of returning *happily* to the U.S. after putting thier lives on the line.

Shameful.

Rose Karuna

Lizard Doctor

Join date: 5 Jun 2004

Posts: 3,772

This is a Rant.... But people who defend us should be treated with SOME respect!

01-13-2005 09:06

OK - they should have paid the tickets.

But most cities don't make it easy to do this anymore. The last ticket I got for not having my insurance card in my car required that I show up at the court house and physically show the card. So it cost me a full days work. Worse yet, it cost me a full days work because the f*ucking insurance company had not mailed me the card yet and some f*cking insurance company lobbiest convinced the state of Florida that everyone should have "proof of insurance" in their vehicle. It was all about money not safety....

But I digress...

Showing up in court is not so easy to do when your in the military. Affording the fine for a ticket is not so easy if you are in the military. Have you looked at what these people are paid?

The fact that the cops were waiting for them as they deplaned is disgusting and the more I read about stuff like this the more I feel we live in a police state.

One point - I wonder if the soliders who were arrested that day for tickets, got their records wiped clean if the re-enlisted back into the military?

Not exactly the draft but certaintly something I saw happen a lot during the Vietnam war.

People who defend our country should not have to return to NO JOB, NO HOME and NO HOPE. Damn It!!

/Rant almost over ....

But... I would like to see how many of SL people who have fought for our country and who have been treated like this? What can we - those of us who stayed in our comfy little homes do to help?

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Lecktor Hannibal

YOUR MOM

Join date: 1 Jul 2004

Posts: 6,734

01-13-2005 09:13

From: Rose Karuna

OK - they should have paid the tickets.

But most cities don't make it easy to do this anymore. The last ticket I got for not having my insurance card in my car required that I show up at the court house and physically show the card. So it cost me a full days work. Worse yet, it cost me a full days work because the f*ucking insurance company had not mailed me the card yet and some f*cking insurance company lobbiest convinced the state of Florida that everyone should have "proof of insurance" in their vehicle. It was all about money not safety....

But I digress...

Showing up in court is not so easy to do when your in the military. Affording the fine for a ticket is not so easy if you are in the military. Have you looked at what these people are paid?

The fact that the cops were waiting for them as they deplaned is disgusting and the more I read about stuff like this the more I feel we live in a police state.

One point - I wonder if the soliders who were arrested that day for tickets, got their records wiped clean if the re-enlisted back into the military?

Not exactly the draft but certaintly something I saw happen a lot during the Vietnam war.

People who defend our country should not have to return to NO JOB, NO HOME and NO HOPE. Damn It!!

/Rant almost over ....

But... I would like to see how many of SL people who have fought for our country and who have been treated like this? What can we - those of us who stayed in our comfy little homes do to help?

Ignore the ugly picture the media loves to paint on the military and seek out the truth in what actually goes on. Maintain the respect you have shown and encourage it in others. Join up on the many email/penpal /mail a package programs going out there and adopt a soldier/sailor/marine/airman as a friend. (besides me heh) Believe me that little action in itself will mean alot to a military person who is deployed and usually quite young and confused/scared.
Hugs Rose

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Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

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Rose Karuna

Lizard Doctor

Join date: 5 Jun 2004

Posts: 3,772

01-13-2005 10:06

Lecktor,

I actually do that already, my brother was there so I still write to and send his friends things as well.

Perhaps the government of the city of Hinesville GA should probably be made aware of their disgusting collection techniques:

Mayor: Mr. Thomas J. Ratcliffe, Jr.
115 East M. L. King Jr. Drive
Hinesville, GA 31313
Telephone: 912-876-3564
Fax: 912-369-2658

I plan on writing and sending a copy of the article. In addition one can email:

[email]slumpkin@cityofhinesville.org[/email]

This is the clerks office in Hinesville GA.

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a lost user

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01-13-2005 12:13

From: Rose Karuna

But... I would like to see how many of SL people who have fought for our country and who have been treated like this? What can we - those of us who stayed in our comfy little homes do to help?

I fought in the first Gulf War (1990-1) and was treated quite well upon return but in many other modern day wars that is not the case. Vietnam is the easiest example where liberals lined the streets to spit on our boys and call them baby killers. Shameful.

What you can do is go up and personally thank every service member you ever see for helping keep this a free country. A few simple words of kindness can go a long long way. I never experienced prejudice until the first time I walked the streets in uniform. It is ridiculous how some people treat our men and women in the armed forces like they are trash.

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Lo Jacobs

Awesome Possum

Join date: 28 May 2004

Posts: 2,734

01-13-2005 12:32

Is this true? Is this source reliable? Or are they leftist propoganda? Never heard of Guerrilla News.

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Devlin Gallant

Thought Police

Join date: 18 Jun 2003

Posts: 5,948

01-13-2005 13:08

Note, that only SOME of the warrents were for parking tickets. I betcha those that were 'hauled off' in cuffs had much more serious offenses.

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Isis Becquerel

Ferine Strumpet

Join date: 1 Sep 2004

Posts: 971

01-13-2005 13:20

The per capita income for the U.S. Air Force is $15,341...well now why the hell couldn't they afford that fine pfft...afterall they are a couple hundred bucks above the poverty line right.

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As long as the bottle of wine costs more than 50 bucks, I'm not an alcoholic...even if I did drink 3 of them.

Isis Becquerel

Ferine Strumpet

Join date: 1 Sep 2004

Posts: 971

01-13-2005 13:24

From: Billy Grace

I fought in the first Gulf War (1990-1) and was treated quite well upon return but in many other modern day wars that is not the case. Vietnam is the easiest example where liberals lined the streets to spit on our boys and call them baby killers. Shameful.

What you can do is go up and personally thank every service member you ever see for helping keep this a free country. A few simple words of kindness can go a long long way. I never experienced prejudice until the first time I walked the streets in uniform. It is ridiculous how some people treat our men and women in the armed forces like they are trash.

I will thank them for doing their duty, that which has happened via the Gov-Co is not their fault, but there isn't one thing that occured in Iraq that made the US more free than it was before the attack. In fact the US has become less free as a result of the war.

But I do agree that our service members are treated poorly by some citizens with misguided anger. It is easier for some to spit on a representative of the government than it is to direct their anger towards the actual source. Our service men are just doing their job. It is sad to see that some would take advantage of them or treat them in a disrespectful manner regarding something that the service men have no control over.

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One of the most fashionable notions of our times is that social problems like poverty and oppression breed wars. Most wars, however, are started by well-fed people with time on their hands to dream up half-baked ideologies or grandiose ambitions, and to nurse real or imagined grievances.
Thomas Sowell

As long as the bottle of wine costs more than 50 bucks, I'm not an alcoholic...even if I did drink 3 of them.

Akuma Withnail

Money costs too much

Join date: 29 Aug 2004

Posts: 347

01-13-2005 15:16

From: Lo Jacobs

Is this true? Is this source reliable? Or are they leftist propoganda? Never heard of Guerrilla News.

GNN is an independent news organization that does indeed have a very left leaning stance. They tend to cover stories that do not appear in the mainstream corporate media, or cover alternative apects of those stories that do. I personally find alot of their reporting stellar. If you want to check up on this particular story you can follow the link to Operation Truth

http://optruth.com/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&screenKey=hear&htmlId=1539

to see their write up on this fellow plus additional media coverage of this story. None of the other articles mention the parking ticket incident but the rest of the facts seem to be repeated with some elaborations. There is also an email address on the Operation Truth site though with you can arrange an interview with this guy if you are really interested.

David Cartier

Registered User

Join date: 8 Jun 2003

Posts: 1,018

01-14-2005 00:37

From: Rose Karuna

OK - they should have paid the tickets.

But most cities don't make it easy to do this anymore. The last ticket I got for not having my insurance card in my car required that I show up at the court house and physically show the card. So it cost me a full days work. Worse yet, it cost me a full days work because the f*ucking insurance company had not mailed me the card yet and some f*cking insurance company lobbiest convinced the state of Florida that everyone should have "proof of insurance" in their vehicle. It was all about money not safety....

But I digress...

Showing up in court is not so easy to do when your in the military. Affording the fine for a ticket is not so easy if you are in the military. Have you looked at what these people are paid?

The fact that the cops were waiting for them as they deplaned is disgusting and the more I read about stuff like this the more I feel we live in a police state.

One point - I wonder if the soliders who were arrested that day for tickets, got their records wiped clean if the re-enlisted back into the military?

Not exactly the draft but certaintly something I saw happen a lot during the Vietnam war.

People who defend our country should not have to return to NO JOB, NO HOME and NO HOPE. Damn It!!

/Rant almost over ....

But... I would like to see how many of SL people who have fought for our country and who have been treated like this? What can we - those of us who stayed in our comfy little homes do to help?

Hinesville is just the kind of asshole town where you will get a $90 ticket for going 26 in a 25mph zone. Just about everyone in the town, from the Korean and Phillipine hookers to the mayor is nothing but a parasite, living off the fat of Ft Stewart. Whenever the soldiers are gone, they don't make any money, so they have to stick it to them as soon as they get back.

Well that's just a kick in the teeth.
Akuma Withnail Money costs too much Join date: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 347	01-12-2005 20:37 Police waiting with PARKING TICKETS for returning soldiers. WTF? Now I'm against this war in every way but good lord, how low can you go? http://www.guerrillanews.com/articles/article.php?id=1054
Juro Kothari Like a dog on a bone Join date: 4 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,418	01-12-2005 21:32 Well... first, they should've paid those tickets. BUT... the police could've let them have the dignity of returning happily to the U.S. after putting thier lives on the line. Shameful.
Rose Karuna Lizard Doctor Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,772	This is a Rant.... But people who defend us should be treated with SOME respect! 01-13-2005 09:06 OK - they should have paid the tickets. But most cities don't make it easy to do this anymore. The last ticket I got for not having my insurance card in my car required that I show up at the court house and physically show the card. So it cost me a full days work. Worse yet, it cost me a full days work because the fucking insurance company had not mailed me the card yet and some fcking insurance company lobbiest convinced the state of Florida that everyone should have "proof of insurance" in their vehicle. It was all about money not safety.... But I digress... Showing up in court is not so easy to do when your in the military. Affording the fine for a ticket is not so easy if you are in the military. Have you looked at what these people are paid? The fact that the cops were waiting for them as they deplaned is disgusting and the more I read about stuff like this the more I feel we live in a police state. One point - I wonder if the soliders who were arrested that day for tickets, got their records wiped clean if the re-enlisted back into the military? Not exactly the draft but certaintly something I saw happen a lot during the Vietnam war. People who defend our country should not have to return to NO JOB, NO HOME and NO HOPE. Damn It!! /Rant almost over .... But... I would like to see how many of SL people who have fought for our country and who have been treated like this? What can we - those of us who stayed in our comfy little homes do to help? _____________________ I Do Whatever My Rice Krispies Tell Me To
Lecktor Hannibal YOUR MOM Join date: 1 Jul 2004 Posts: 6,734	01-13-2005 09:13 From: Rose Karuna OK - they should have paid the tickets. But most cities don't make it easy to do this anymore. The last ticket I got for not having my insurance card in my car required that I show up at the court house and physically show the card. So it cost me a full days work. Worse yet, it cost me a full days work because the fucking insurance company had not mailed me the card yet and some fcking insurance company lobbiest convinced the state of Florida that everyone should have "proof of insurance" in their vehicle. It was all about money not safety.... But I digress... Showing up in court is not so easy to do when your in the military. Affording the fine for a ticket is not so easy if you are in the military. Have you looked at what these people are paid? The fact that the cops were waiting for them as they deplaned is disgusting and the more I read about stuff like this the more I feel we live in a police state. One point - I wonder if the soliders who were arrested that day for tickets, got their records wiped clean if the re-enlisted back into the military? Not exactly the draft but certaintly something I saw happen a lot during the Vietnam war. People who defend our country should not have to return to NO JOB, NO HOME and NO HOPE. Damn It!! /Rant almost over .... But... I would like to see how many of SL people who have fought for our country and who have been treated like this? What can we - those of us who stayed in our comfy little homes do to help? Ignore the ugly picture the media loves to paint on the military and seek out the truth in what actually goes on. Maintain the respect you have shown and encourage it in others. Join up on the many email/penpal /mail a package programs going out there and adopt a soldier/sailor/marine/airman as a friend. (besides me heh) Believe me that little action in itself will mean alot to a military person who is deployed and usually quite young and confused/scared. Hugs Rose _____________________ YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
Rose Karuna Lizard Doctor Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,772	01-13-2005 10:06 Lecktor, I actually do that already, my brother was there so I still write to and send his friends things as well. Perhaps the government of the city of Hinesville GA should probably be made aware of their disgusting collection techniques: Mayor: Mr. Thomas J. Ratcliffe, Jr. 115 East M. L. King Jr. Drive Hinesville, GA 31313 Telephone: 912-876-3564 Fax: 912-369-2658 I plan on writing and sending a copy of the article. In addition one can email: [email]slumpkin@cityofhinesville.org[/email] This is the clerks office in Hinesville GA. _____________________ I Do Whatever My Rice Krispies Tell Me To
a lost user Join date: ? Posts: ?	01-13-2005 12:13 From: Rose Karuna But... I would like to see how many of SL people who have fought for our country and who have been treated like this? What can we - those of us who stayed in our comfy little homes do to help? I fought in the first Gulf War (1990-1) and was treated quite well upon return but in many other modern day wars that is not the case. Vietnam is the easiest example where liberals lined the streets to spit on our boys and call them baby killers. Shameful. What you can do is go up and personally thank every service member you ever see for helping keep this a free country. A few simple words of kindness can go a long long way. I never experienced prejudice until the first time I walked the streets in uniform. It is ridiculous how some people treat our men and women in the armed forces like they are trash. _____________________
Lo Jacobs Awesome Possum Join date: 28 May 2004 Posts: 2,734	01-13-2005 12:32 Is this true? Is this source reliable? Or are they leftist propoganda? Never heard of Guerrilla News. _____________________ http://churchofluxe.com/Luster
Devlin Gallant Thought Police Join date: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 5,948	01-13-2005 13:08 Note, that only SOME of the warrents were for parking tickets. I betcha those that were 'hauled off' in cuffs had much more serious offenses. _____________________ I LIKE children, I've just never been able to finish a whole one.
Isis Becquerel Ferine Strumpet Join date: 1 Sep 2004 Posts: 971	01-13-2005 13:20 The per capita income for the U.S. Air Force is $15,341...well now why the hell couldn't they afford that fine pfft...afterall they are a couple hundred bucks above the poverty line right. _____________________ One of the most fashionable notions of our times is that social problems like poverty and oppression breed wars. Most wars, however, are started by well-fed people with time on their hands to dream up half-baked ideologies or grandiose ambitions, and to nurse real or imagined grievances. Thomas Sowell As long as the bottle of wine costs more than 50 bucks, I'm not an alcoholic...even if I did drink 3 of them.
Isis Becquerel Ferine Strumpet Join date: 1 Sep 2004 Posts: 971	01-13-2005 13:24 From: Billy Grace I fought in the first Gulf War (1990-1) and was treated quite well upon return but in many other modern day wars that is not the case. Vietnam is the easiest example where liberals lined the streets to spit on our boys and call them baby killers. Shameful. What you can do is go up and personally thank every service member you ever see for helping keep this a free country. A few simple words of kindness can go a long long way. I never experienced prejudice until the first time I walked the streets in uniform. It is ridiculous how some people treat our men and women in the armed forces like they are trash. I will thank them for doing their duty, that which has happened via the Gov-Co is not their fault, but there isn't one thing that occured in Iraq that made the US more free than it was before the attack. In fact the US has become less free as a result of the war. But I do agree that our service members are treated poorly by some citizens with misguided anger. It is easier for some to spit on a representative of the government than it is to direct their anger towards the actual source. Our service men are just doing their job. It is sad to see that some would take advantage of them or treat them in a disrespectful manner regarding something that the service men have no control over. _____________________ One of the most fashionable notions of our times is that social problems like poverty and oppression breed wars. Most wars, however, are started by well-fed people with time on their hands to dream up half-baked ideologies or grandiose ambitions, and to nurse real or imagined grievances. Thomas Sowell As long as the bottle of wine costs more than 50 bucks, I'm not an alcoholic...even if I did drink 3 of them.
Akuma Withnail Money costs too much Join date: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 347	01-13-2005 15:16 From: Lo Jacobs Is this true? Is this source reliable? Or are they leftist propoganda? Never heard of Guerrilla News. GNN is an independent news organization that does indeed have a very left leaning stance. They tend to cover stories that do not appear in the mainstream corporate media, or cover alternative apects of those stories that do. I personally find alot of their reporting stellar. If you want to check up on this particular story you can follow the link to Operation Truth http://optruth.com/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&screenKey=hear&htmlId=1539 to see their write up on this fellow plus additional media coverage of this story. None of the other articles mention the parking ticket incident but the rest of the facts seem to be repeated with some elaborations. There is also an email address on the Operation Truth site though with you can arrange an interview with this guy if you are really interested.
David Cartier Registered User Join date: 8 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,018	01-14-2005 00:37 From: Rose Karuna OK - they should have paid the tickets. But most cities don't make it easy to do this anymore. The last ticket I got for not having my insurance card in my car required that I show up at the court house and physically show the card. So it cost me a full days work. Worse yet, it cost me a full days work because the fucking insurance company had not mailed me the card yet and some fcking insurance company lobbiest convinced the state of Florida that everyone should have "proof of insurance" in their vehicle. It was all about money not safety.... But I digress... Showing up in court is not so easy to do when your in the military. Affording the fine for a ticket is not so easy if you are in the military. Have you looked at what these people are paid? The fact that the cops were waiting for them as they deplaned is disgusting and the more I read about stuff like this the more I feel we live in a police state. One point - I wonder if the soliders who were arrested that day for tickets, got their records wiped clean if the re-enlisted back into the military? Not exactly the draft but certaintly something I saw happen a lot during the Vietnam war. People who defend our country should not have to return to NO JOB, NO HOME and NO HOPE. Damn It!! /Rant almost over .... But... I would like to see how many of SL people who have fought for our country and who have been treated like this? What can we - those of us who stayed in our comfy little homes do to help? Hinesville is just the kind of asshole town where you will get a $90 ticket for going 26 in a 25mph zone. Just about everyone in the town, from the Korean and Phillipine hookers to the mayor is nothing but a parasite, living off the fat of Ft Stewart. Whenever the soldiers are gone, they don't make any money, so they have to stick it to them as soon as they get back.

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