For the people who think kids should get kicked off second life
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felicity Parks
Registered User
Join date: 28 Jul 2004
Posts: 47
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10-08-2004 12:01
I think that the people that made SL should make a kid version. It should be so they can't say some words they aren't suppost to and that they can't do some things like strip and more. They should make it so it is exciting for the kids and not bad for them. Like have a Teen SL, Adult SL, and a 12 and under SL and each one has different freedoms.
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Jillian Callahan
Rotary-winged Neko Girl
Join date: 24 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,766
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10-08-2004 12:04
I think they should concentrate thier efforts on making the current SL what it promises to be - then when it's so large that it's roughly where the WWW was in 96 or so, then worry about how to incorporate the underage set.
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Darko Cellardoor
Cannabinoid Addict
Join date: 10 Nov 2003
Posts: 1,307
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10-08-2004 12:53
Felicity why the hell did you create another thread about this subject? Your argument is not very compelling. In fact I have no idea what the hell you are saying!  |
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Shepp Proudfoot
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Join date: 17 Aug 2004
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10-08-2004 12:55
And I have no idea what either of you are saying - or what I, myself am saying!!
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Paris Cellardoor
Jefa del Cartel
Join date: 28 Dec 2003
Posts: 867
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10-08-2004 12:59
hehe..I am at work and I am browsing the forums and I read felicity's reply and thread and I thought it was just me who doesn't know wtf she is talking about, made no sense to me. TYVM for asking that Papi.  |
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Camille Serpentine
Eater of the Dead
Join date: 6 Oct 2003
Posts: 1,236
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10-08-2004 13:25
From: felicity Parks I think that the people that made SL should make a kid version. It should be so they can't say some words they aren't suppost to and that they can't do some things like strip and more. They should make it so it is exciting for the kids and not bad for them. Like have a Teen SL, Adult SL, and a 12 and under SL and each one has different freedoms. So are you one of those kids who should be kicked off? |
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Juro Kothari
Like a dog on a bone
Join date: 4 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,418
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10-08-2004 14:05
From: Camille Serpentine So are you one of those kids who should be kicked off? I've got $L5 on it! |
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Huns Valen
Don't PM me here.
Join date: 3 May 2003
Posts: 2,749
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10-08-2004 14:06
hahaha.
Like LL doesn't have enough on its plate.
I GOT FIIIIIVE AWWWN IT
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Lash Xevious
Gooberly
Join date: 8 May 2004
Posts: 1,348
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10-08-2004 14:26
Hmm, this was posted in the other thread. I'll just paste it here too ... From: someone Andrew Linden's post:Non official response from a Linden
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This isn't really an official response from Linden Lab. As I often say in my defense about matters that are not my primary expertise or responsibility: "I'm just a developer." However, I'm chiming in here because I think I can provide some insight to the thinking that goes on here at Linden Lab.
(1) I believe Philip has been excited about virtual reality since he was a kid. Philip wasn't much of a traditional video game player when he was younger, but SL, with its open possibilities and freedom to create, would have been his kind of "game". I think he would like to be able to bring SL to those kids out there that are like he was.
(2) We don't think using SL is a waste of time. We think that SL can directly teach or provide incentives for people to otherwise learn real world skills, such as creating digital media (textures, models, video, sound) , programming (scripting, networking, databases), and even business and marketing skills (organizing, management, branding). Therefore, it would be a Good Thing to open up this medium for kids.
(3) SL is fun. There are a lot of kids out there that would enjoy using SL.
(4) We think SL is going to eventually be BIG. HUGE! When it gets big there will be a demand for access for minors.
(5) Linden Lab does not currently have a definite plan for how to open SL up to kids. It is more of a "Gee wouldn't it be cool, we think we'd like to make it work" state of affairs. (This is where your feedback comes into play. The "We want an adult-only playground" message is loud and clear.)
(6) The current feature set of SL almost supports a separate grid just for kids, but not quite. It is possible to make a multi-sim estate and to have a set of residents who could only visit that estate and no other part of the world. What is missing is the account creation/validation/managment of such a population. One scenario of a separate grid might be: suppose a high school class wanted to have access to their own small virtual world that had the feature set of SL. Other than the creation of credit-cardless accounts that is already possible. Suppose 10 different high schools wanted to have their own private estates... it might be possible to also open up a larger 11th estate where residents from the various high schools could tread common ground. |
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Gen Biggles
Registered User
Join date: 6 Oct 2004
Posts: 3
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Kids & Second Life
10-14-2004 09:58
I see two ways right now kids may make it on:
(1) Ask a parent for a credit card, and sign up under the parent's permission.
-- I had to do this when I was 14 and started my first business. No company would deal with another company run by a 14 year old, so my dad had to "run" the company until I turned 18. He signed about 10 papers, and then was the end of his involvement (should also be noted he gave me the $300 start-up venture capital that produced a business which now supports me after finishing college).
(2) Get a Visa Buxx card, or similiar "Kiddie-Credit," sign up with a false birthdate, and pretend you're 18+. To be honest, anyone with any sense of maturity could pretend to be 18 or 19, and none of us would think the differ.
If we do decide to go KidFriendly some day, I think SL could even make some money referring Visa Buxx, if they got an affiliate agreement with the banks. They'd get perhaps $10 - $50 for the sale, plus the $9.95 basic membership fee. Win-Win situation.
Personally, I like it without the kids. Kids killed the Palace, and I fear allowing kids now would kill SL.
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Osprey Therian
I want capslocklock
Join date: 6 Jul 2004
Posts: 5,049
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Cornell Theory Center
10-14-2004 16:37
Cornell University has a project going that involves kids from various schools creating science displays inside virtual worlds (each school has a different "world" to work in but can visit other worlds if they are open to visitors). I know about it because I run a gifted art program at a school for Native American children (K-  and we may be able to get involved. Three of my students have tried it out and are champing at the bit. It's simpler than SL, without the infinite adaptability of prim-based building, but it's a wonderful introduction to virtual worlds for children. Expect the students who are currently in the CTC project to arrive in SL as soon as they turn 18. |
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Athan Sojourner
Freakishly Frivolous
Join date: 24 Jul 2004
Posts: 22
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10-14-2004 17:07
From: Darko Cellardoor In fact I have no idea what the hell you are saying! Felicity's talking about having different sims/zones for different age groups, each with specific rules and regulations--like no nekkid avatars, and a language filter that screens out inappropriate language. That said, I think SL needs to keep the kiddies out. I remember when everyone had to pay hourly for AOL way back when....there were jerks then too of course, but after AOL switched to an unlimited monthly fee the floodgates opened and the place became a nightmare, IMHO. It was like my house was suddenly invaded with roaches, fleas, and big ugly spiders. Immature kiddies arrived in droves, and combined with all the immature adults following in the wake of a more accessible pricing plan, AOL became a place I just didn't want to hang out in anymore. If, as Andrew Linden said, SL is going to be something huge that appeals to the mass market, I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens here. I guess I'll enjoy SL while I still can.
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