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Zuzi Martinez

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Join date: 4 Sep 2004

Posts: 1,860

10-22-2004 08:50

sorry for the clutter but i got no idea where this goes.... i keep hearing people mention Havok and Havok 2 like they relate to sl but they never go past a mention. what are they?

Princess Medici

sad panda

Join date: 1 Mar 2004

Posts: 416

10-22-2004 08:56

I'm not a tech person, so I may be completely wrong, but......

I believe Havok is the physics engine that SL uses, and Havok2 is the upgrade that is coming sometime in the future.

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Ace Cassidy

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Join date: 5 Apr 2004

Posts: 1,228

10-22-2004 09:19

Princess is correct. Havok is some technology that Linden Labs licenses for use in the SL servers, and does all the physics calculations. Havoc 2 is an upgrade to the current technology used by LL, but has not yet been incorporated.

Word has it that Havoc 2 will cure a lot that ails SL, but when it will be added is anybody's guess. Its been promised for as long as I have been around (April/04), but apparently LL is currently focused on fixing what they have, and not spending a lot of resources adding new features (a wise move, in my view).

Unless you're a heavy duty scripter of vehicles, weapons, or other objects that make use of the physics engine, its nothing you need to worry about, beyond looking forward to the day when Havoc 2 makes all of these things work better.

- Ace

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Zuzi Martinez

goth dachshund

Join date: 4 Sep 2004

Posts: 1,860

10-22-2004 11:14

well darn. i want to be a heavy duty scripter of vehicles, weapons, or other objects that make use of the physics engine.

thanks for the answers.

Lumina Lumiere

Delta-9 To The Rescue

Join date: 7 May 2004

Posts: 17

10-22-2004 11:20

Just to add in, Havok 2 actually runs a lot of the physics for a lot of the games out there, including a lot of "rag-doll" type stuff. and Havok 2 will allow us to do a WHOLE lot more, but Havok 3 is almost(maybe already) released, soo by the time we get 2 it will probably be pretty watered down and used up.

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Zuzi Martinez

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Join date: 4 Sep 2004

Posts: 1,860

10-22-2004 11:25

maybe the big delay is they're waiting on Havok 3 so they don't do all the work for an old version. i'm still new to all the physics stuff. how will a new version help?

Ansi Belvedere

Second Life Resident

Join date: 17 Oct 2004

Posts: 23

10-22-2004 12:38

From: Lumina Lumiere

...soo by the time we get 2 it will probably be pretty watered down and used up.

Ten thousand people playing with an old toy means that old toy will do things the toy designers never thought it could do.

I'm certain the designers of SL didn't know that half the stuff that came out was possible. Like the invisibility script, for example. It's amazing what the bazaar can come up with.

-Ansi

Newbie Question, Dunno the Correct Forum
Zuzi Martinez goth dachshund Join date: 4 Sep 2004 Posts: 1,860	10-22-2004 08:50 sorry for the clutter but i got no idea where this goes.... i keep hearing people mention Havok and Havok 2 like they relate to sl but they never go past a mention. what are they?
Princess Medici sad panda Join date: 1 Mar 2004 Posts: 416	10-22-2004 08:56 I'm not a tech person, so I may be completely wrong, but...... I believe Havok is the physics engine that SL uses, and Havok2 is the upgrade that is coming sometime in the future. _____________________ Please cease and desist from your derogatory use of Elmo.
Ace Cassidy Resident Bohemian Join date: 5 Apr 2004 Posts: 1,228	10-22-2004 09:19 Princess is correct. Havok is some technology that Linden Labs licenses for use in the SL servers, and does all the physics calculations. Havoc 2 is an upgrade to the current technology used by LL, but has not yet been incorporated. Word has it that Havoc 2 will cure a lot that ails SL, but when it will be added is anybody's guess. Its been promised for as long as I have been around (April/04), but apparently LL is currently focused on fixing what they have, and not spending a lot of resources adding new features (a wise move, in my view). Unless you're a heavy duty scripter of vehicles, weapons, or other objects that make use of the physics engine, its nothing you need to worry about, beyond looking forward to the day when Havoc 2 makes all of these things work better. - Ace _____________________ "Free your mind, and your ass will follow" - George Clinton
Zuzi Martinez goth dachshund Join date: 4 Sep 2004 Posts: 1,860	10-22-2004 11:14 well darn. i want to be a heavy duty scripter of vehicles, weapons, or other objects that make use of the physics engine. thanks for the answers.
Lumina Lumiere Delta-9 To The Rescue Join date: 7 May 2004 Posts: 17	10-22-2004 11:20 Just to add in, Havok 2 actually runs a lot of the physics for a lot of the games out there, including a lot of "rag-doll" type stuff. and Havok 2 will allow us to do a WHOLE lot more, but Havok 3 is almost(maybe already) released, soo by the time we get 2 it will probably be pretty watered down and used up. _____________________ Weed is my anti-drug.
Zuzi Martinez goth dachshund Join date: 4 Sep 2004 Posts: 1,860	10-22-2004 11:25 maybe the big delay is they're waiting on Havok 3 so they don't do all the work for an old version. i'm still new to all the physics stuff. how will a new version help?
Ansi Belvedere Second Life Resident Join date: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 23	10-22-2004 12:38 From: Lumina Lumiere ...soo by the time we get 2 it will probably be pretty watered down and used up. Ten thousand people playing with an old toy means that old toy will do things the toy designers never thought it could do. I'm certain the designers of SL didn't know that half the stuff that came out was possible. Like the invisibility script, for example. It's amazing what the bazaar can come up with. -Ansi

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