I hate the IRS

Goddamn it.

I hate the IRS.

I love my accountant...but even he couldn't help me much this year.

I need to have some illegitimate kids or something and start paying child support. Apparently that is one scenario that would greatly help my finances.

-Zero <---getting penalized for being a single guy with a decent job

Just had to rant....grrrrrr.

Adopt me.

You got it.

Seriously, if you think land tiers here are bad, just look at the tax codes.

And I know...it's not right to complain about making too much money...but seriously, once you get into certain brackets and dont' have family deductions or sneaky ways to hide money.....well, it sucks the big pickle.

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I love the IRS. They're a bunch of great guys and gals who are only doing their part for this great country of ours. Hell, I think they need a monument of their own in DC.

:::::curries off, desperately clutching her 1040 and looking for stamps::::::::

1. Even if you don't want one -- purchase a house.
2. Refinance said house when interest rates are lower so said interest paid back is higher (after a few years).
3. When said house is paid in full, make it a rental, reflecting yearly loss on income from said rental.
4. Purchase new home following steps 1&2 above.
5. Adopt dog from Humane Society, find quirky physician who will give birth certificate for said animal.
6. Pet-sitter fees become "child daycare" charges with some creative letterhead and a good copy machine.
7. Just hope the IRS doesn't come looking for said "Junior".
8. Pay, but file extension while looking for other creative ways to lower taxes.

taxes bad
IRS bad
*cries*

Feel ya Zero...Save the reciepts from everything in your home...use a portion of your home as office space and depreciate everything in it...computer, microwave, coffee maker pretty much anything you use at least once for business can be used as a write off...that is what I do at least....still trying to find a way to write sl off but I guess I'll have to wait untill I am a world renowned fashion designer which will happen at the same time that my dog starts speaking latin and earns her doctorate from harvard...sorry to hear your woes though chin up Bush will be outta office soon and maybe the next guy will realize flat tax is the only way to go!!!!

Well... I hate to sound like a socialist... but if anyone's going to receive a disproportionate burden in the tax code... who better than the single (presumably young) guy with a decent job? Old people? Single parents? People with crappy jobs?

And then I think it's a given that our tax code taxes some people more than others, but the reason it does so is so that a certain level of public benefits can be maintained without driving poor people into truly abject poverty, as might happen if we were to take our current budget obligations and spread the financial burden equally. There's a bit of socialism built right into our tax code, a bit of the state deciding who needs what. It's okay not to like it, but would you rather make it harder for the poor to move up the economic ladder or to dispense with certain public services (and which ones would get the ax?).

So, yeah. The system's got to screw someone, and I'm sorry to say that it looks like this year it's going to be you. I can't say you get much sympathy from me, as I've not had much in the way of taxable income for the past several years (to be fair, I've been a student, mostly). I would be incredibly happy at this point to get a job that nets just 20K a year, even if I don't get to keep a few thousand of it. It'd still be more than I'm making now.

My roommate, who works in real estate and is consequently screwed by the IRS every year, just bought a house. And yet here it comes to be tax time and he's like, "DUDE I have to pay so much money to the government," and I'm like, "DUDE you just bought a house, not to mention you've remodeled the entire first floor and bought almost two thousand dollars' worth of landscaping material and equipment." I mean, cry me a river, right?

But barring any kind of meaningful reform, you could always start a movement to repeal the XVI amendment. I bet so few people know about it they'd go along with it just long enough to abolish the income tax. *shrugs*

Tax the rich!

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Actually, If government waste & tax breaks/loopholes for corporations were abolished no citizen would have to get screwed. Everyone would likely have to still pay some kind of tax, but not at rates we have now. (BTW, I'm Canadian but it's same idea here or in the US).

Stupid, stupid IRS. Meanies!!! *shakes fist and cries*

Well, I for one don't pay taxes.I am not a tax cheat or anything, I just don't make enough to have to pay.

i agree with bhodi. the irs people are just doing their job, following orders, whatever we call it this decade.

what's WRONG is that we have income taxes in the first place. we already pay taxes on money when we spend it. that makes sense. paying additional tax on the money when we earn is just fundamentally stupid. there's no way to argue it being a good idea without looking stupid. i've tried to seriously debate the for side several times.

or maybe i'm just stupid. in any case, i still wouldn't live anywhere else in the world. well except great britian, maybe down under, hm india, okay maybe i would. but their tax situations are no better.

This is slightly off topic, but it involves the IRS. About 8 or 9 years ago, a new federal building opened in New Carrolton, MD. Part of the facility houses IRS offices. Outside their building is a very odd work of art. I suppose it has some well meaning message, because there are several inscriptions on it. I've never walked up to it to read them. However, the message I get from this sculpture is "Robble Robble"

Crap! forgot the pic!

Actually, Khamon, I was just sucking up in case the IRS was stalking the board... <grni>

shhh bhodi. you'll blow our cover.

Would anybody from the UK, other European countries or Canada like to chime in and tell us how much you pay in taxes? I'm sure it would be an eye-opener for those of us in the U.S. who think we have it bad.

i've looked into working in the UK and estimated that if i was a subject, earning the equivilent of my US salary in British pounds, i'd pay about 40% of it to Her Majesty's government.

that's a hypothetical scenario. i'll work over there as a US citizen. if i ever have the opportunity. gotta work three more years here to be fully vested in the state retirement program first.

what was the question? did anybody actually ask one or am i just rambling again? then she told me that the whole thing had just been a joke and...

I just think its sad that my aunt, who is almost 50, finally retires from 30-some years of teaching, has to work a part time job to cover living expenses. Teachers don't get social security.

The main reason this country is at a loss for good teachers, even teachers in general is:

They get ripped off.

As for the OP's post: get married, I hear that married couples get a few good tax breaks.

Too bad Im gay.

As for taxes:
Get the republicans out of the executive branch of government, who are consistantly giving tax breaks to a nonetheless decaying economy (the rich corporations).

==Chris