Forging ahead.
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Cybin Monde
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02-22-2005 15:35
Greetings, once more i've come to mention SecondSpace, but this time is a bit different. I'm finally getting a foothold in my future, my place within SL. it is a future that is intended to help nurture Second Life into a more grandiose future. i am digging in my heals to do what i've been building to do for over a year now. i don't know how to describe it.. so, i'll try by example instead. this is my first solid attempt to dig in for the long haul: subj: There is a future waiting to be written. From: someone We are the story-tellers. The Lindens are the publishers.
Lesson 1: Firing the Synapses
We would do well, as a whole, to remember to always look forward to future of SL and then... don't act on it, instead dream even further ahead. What impossibilities will become commonplace in our wonderland? Let your imagination run completely wild, then make suggestions to the Lindens via the new Hotline forum.. and/or present your visions to the community at large to get feedback and possibly evolve your ideas into even more intense versions of themselves.
Basically it can all be somed up thusly, "Second Life is in it's infancy, let us strive for it's adult-hood.. but, never forgetting that it will never, ever leave it's infancy."
Grand Rego, Cybin Monde feel free to attempt to augment our future with me.
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"There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971)
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Cybin Monde
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hmm..
02-23-2005 11:11
i was wondering, does anyone have thoughts on the quote above? on my focus of direction?
does it come across as too "cult-ish" or as it should be, which is that it's concern and excitement for SL's future?
"Iinnnpuuut, need more input!" - Johnny 5
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"We, as developers, are doing the easy part – building the scaffolding for a new world. You, as the engines of creation, must breathe life into it." - Philip Linden
"There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971)
SecondSpace (http://groups.myspace.com/secondspace) : MySpace group for SLers.
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Ardith Mifflin
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Join date: 5 Jun 2004
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02-23-2005 11:48
From: Cybin Monde i was wondering, does anyone have thoughts on the quote above? on my focus of direction?
does it come across as too "cult-ish" or as it should be, which is that it's concern and excitement for SL's future?
"Iinnnpuuut, need more input!" - Johnny 5 Cultish? I envision a dozen robed figures pacing mindlessly in the rain before the Fanatics' Tower, while my party wages battle against Magimaster. Compared to that, your idea certainly isn't cultish.
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Maxx Monde
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02-23-2005 12:06
Sure, I can give input. I do see it being part of something - but only if it becomes more open than it is. This is an inherent difficulty - how do you obtain money to fuel development, and at the same time, make it a 'platform' (there may be a better word to use here, 'medium'? '3Diverse?') that everyone can use? Perhaps the answer is in the hands of Venture Capital, willing to underwrite large long-term projects like this without an *immediate* return. I can only hope. I don't see myself as being such a pivotal part of what is happening, only that I'll be fairly well versed in it when it does, just like I was into BBSes before the net was a big deal, and so on, and so on. All creative/tech types are that way, we seek out the new and interesting, and if they make it to the 'big time', we become the 'technoliterati' that already know what the hell we're doing, and then charge large consulting fees to those that need to know, right now, how to get things going in this new world  We're not there yet, but who knows -- I couldn't have seen the evolution of the web coming, could you? Not in the magnitude or the speed perhaps. I look forward to the future, at any rate.
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Torley Linden
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02-23-2005 13:18
From: someone Basically it can all be somed up thusly, "Second Life is in it's infancy, let us strive for it's adult-hood.. but, never forgetting that it will never, ever leave it's infancy." ^ well, I like the sound of that a lot, because to me, it comes off like a contradiction I can surely embrace: to have the wisdom of a sage elder yet approach the world with the wide-opened eyes of a child. Kinda like Forrest Gump or Mr. Bean or even Rainman.  Although your analogy "We are the story-tellers. The Lindens are the publishers." might seem technically flawed to some, I'm not one to pick a bone over magic. I'll take magic any way I can get it, and this is definitely magical to me. In some way, it reminds me of Myst, with those "linking books" that would take you to new worlds. Or even early VRML experiences and my youth spent gunning down tanks in the rather simplistic but fun world of Spectre VR. Once upon a time too, I pondered about using another of Virtus's products, Virtus VR, to build houses. But then I recognized how lonely it'd feel without anyone to share them with and invite them in for tea and crumpets. A whole decade later, here I am on Second Life. If this is a cult, then it's a good cult. Heh, take back the power of the word for ourselves. Second Life: a world where you brainwash yourself. 
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Zuzi Martinez
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Join date: 4 Sep 2004
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02-23-2005 14:57
Second Life: giving you the tools to build poison koolaid in any flavor you can imagine!just kiddin Cybin. i'm not real sure what you're looking for here. i read the quote and was like "well duh....." guess that means i agree.  where were you going with this?
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Cybin Monde
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thanks..
02-23-2005 17:39
Ardith, i wish you well and may the dancing robes dance well before the Tower.  - Maxx, am i correct in assuming you're talking about SL in relation to finances? when you say it would do well to be more open, do you mean the technology of SL? heheh.. yeah, i remember dialing up local BBSs.. and no, i had no idea that i was looking at the first steps of a medium that would relatively, and quickly, provide us with alternate worlds! - Torley, i like the analogy you've applied to your interpretation of my statement. and it's a true interpretation... by default though. i meant to say that while SL will continuously evolve, it will never be "finished".. there will always be somewhere further to go. now, by default, this means that we would develop sage-like wisdom through time; however, we (as in the whole of SL) will never "grow up", never reach an end point.. which forces us into the position of perpetual infancy. so, you're interpretation (which i think is great!) is almost where we find ourselves simply by existing within SL. as far as the story-teller analogy goes.. i see where the technical merit falters; however, i only meant to imply that the Lindens supply the raw materials and we, as SLers, apply imagination to these materials to create our wildest dreams and beyond.. and sometimes less, lol. (note: these are generalizations. i am well aware that Lindens are SLers as well, thusly they technically fall into both categories.) now, where's my brain loufa? 
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"There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971)
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Cybin Monde
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where, you ask?
02-23-2005 18:03
Zuzi, i'm not sure if it's so much as where as much as something more undefinable. but less metaphysical and more to the point: i am attempting to gather those who are willing and able into a cohesive collective that will strive together to push the envelope of SL's evolution. i have been guiding myself towards this point, beating down a path distinguishing who i am in relation to SL and what i can do to add to the experience thereof. now, everything is starting to gel together.. everything i've been working towards is beginning to solidify. now that i've reached this point, i am able to invite others to share in this journey towards the future. it all just boils down to making a concerted effort to take SL further for everyone.. and sooner rather than later, thereby expanding SL's evolution.. and once again, sooner rather than later. ..hope that helps answer your question. 
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"We, as developers, are doing the easy part – building the scaffolding for a new world. You, as the engines of creation, must breathe life into it." - Philip Linden
"There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971)
SecondSpace (http://groups.myspace.com/secondspace) : MySpace group for SLers.
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
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02-23-2005 18:12
Oooh well-expressed, Cybin. I'm absolutely sure of relativity.  Can ya say... the reward is the journey? 
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Zuzi Martinez
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Join date: 4 Sep 2004
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02-23-2005 18:29
From: someone i am attempting to gather those who are willing and able into a cohesive collective that will strive together to push the envelope of SL's evolution. ok got ya. that sounds like a good thing but i'm not sure how much help i could be. i'm not very thinky about things. i just kinda do stuff by instinct and don't look at where it's going. 
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