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Regnar Bell

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11-13-2003 04:50

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Relee Baysklef

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11-13-2003 05:44

I think that the land auctions are a good thing, because a group of lifers can buy the property and use it to set up a very useful and fun area.

A lottery would potentially give the land to someone who couldn't use or maintain it, and prevent the land from being used for good.

eltee Statosky

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11-13-2003 07:47

I agree with relee... in fact i'd almost want to make that a requirement... like ONLY allow groups to bid, and every big must be accompanied with an actual statement of intent, to make sure that whoever does get the land ought to have some plan of how to use it in a constructive and engaging manner.

Tiger Crossing

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11-13-2003 07:48

Plus, it's a way to drain the bank accounts of those people who DO have huge sums of money. (Not that they couldn't release the whole thing and get back all or most of what they spent, or parcel it out.)

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Daemioth Sklar

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11-13-2003 08:14

I agree. I like the land auctions, despite my inability to take part in them.

Loki Pico

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11-13-2003 08:29

Im sure there is room for both. I am actually surprised that more residents dont offer their excess land for lottery.

David Cartier

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Re: Why There should be no more land auctions !

11-13-2003 10:51

I haven't seen Candie even place a bid in this auction, so your fears of her buying this land, too are pretty unfounded. If someone jumps in on the bidding with a much higher bid all of a sudden, they are doing us all a service by shortening the whole tedious process, since the land is going to eventually sell for a good bit more than the current high bid. The land will no doubt be bought by whichever individual or group wants it the most. Even real estate magnates don't spend too much. The idea for a lottery is really great, I have to admit. Lotteries for the new mature sims might be a very equitable way to fairly pass out shares, since no matter how many mature sims they open up they likely will not meet the demand.QUOTE]Originally posted by Regnar Bell
I am posting this for a very specific reason.
Only 3 or 4 people could possibly afford the land in Zoe and we all know who those people are . It really bothers me that Linden Labs dosent have the foresight to see this .

Why dosent Linden hold a lottery for the land at say $1000 per ticket Limit 1 per person ? We all know who is gonna get the land dont we ? . Im not gonna post names because it is not my way. But I can say this . With the Land Shortage as bad as it is , Newcomers wont be able to buy a 4x4 parcel in a sim that isnt maxed out on prims . So no new lands for newcomers , They wont spend $$ to join Second Life. No New users = no new Sims and no new sims = no more income. And Of course no more income = no more SL eventually.

So . Find another way ! [/QUOTE]

Dave Zeeman

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11-13-2003 12:29

Yeah and uh... where's my cut of the deal?

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Candie Apple

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11-13-2003 14:32

Huh?

Edited to say:
The huh is for David, not Dave.

David Cartier

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11-13-2003 15:08

Candie, the last auction - the boardwalk land sale - everyone pretty much assumed that a certain person or group would be buying the boardwalk, but they obviously didn't buy it in the end, did they? I was just pointing out that in SL, just like real life it isn't safe to call a horse race until the horses start racing. With an auction we all of us , whether as individuals or in groups have an equal opportunity to show how much we really want that land. When Chartreuse and Mauve opened up there was a really crazy rush to buy land up that got a little ugly at times and I'm really sorry, in retrospect, that I played a part in that land rush. I do hope that whoever does buy Zoe is as responsible a steward of their land as you always are with yours.

From: someone

Originally posted by Candie Apple
Huh?

Edited to say:
The huh is for David, not Dave.

Higbee Protagonist

Yggdrai Ranger

Join date: 7 Aug 2003

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Don't miss his point!

11-13-2003 17:48

I think the most important thing about what he has stated is the size of the land being auctioned. I would have liked to bid for just a quarter of the land for my project, but the price range is so high that I don't have a chance for the entire plot. I also agree with Regnar that in the long run it may be more beneficial to open the land to all and see who gets there first. Who's to say until we try?

Eznil Starseeker

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LAND IN ZOE - WHO CANT AFFORD IT?

11-14-2003 08:59

I have no objection or thoughts on the land auction. BUT! I have land for sale in Zoe. Its waterfront and only $8000. I'll be willing to lower the price and even rent to own as i have done for some before. The real estate in SL is just like RL. I wanted a place on Fort Lauderdale beach.... It took me six months to find just the right place at the right price. Now I rent the place out instead of vacationing there. Pretty close to SL huh?

Why There should be no more land auctions !
Regnar Bell Senior Member Join date: 11 Aug 2003 Posts: 84	11-13-2003 04:50 I!
Relee Baysklef Irresistable Squirrel Join date: 18 Sep 2003 Posts: 360	11-13-2003 05:44 I think that the land auctions are a good thing, because a group of lifers can buy the property and use it to set up a very useful and fun area. A lottery would potentially give the land to someone who couldn't use or maintain it, and prevent the land from being used for good.
eltee Statosky Luskie Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,258	11-13-2003 07:47 I agree with relee... in fact i'd almost want to make that a requirement... like ONLY allow groups to bid, and every big must be accompanied with an actual statement of intent, to make sure that whoever does get the land ought to have some plan of how to use it in a constructive and engaging manner.
Tiger Crossing The Prim Maker Join date: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 1,560	11-13-2003 07:48 Plus, it's a way to drain the bank accounts of those people who DO have huge sums of money. (Not that they couldn't release the whole thing and get back all or most of what they spent, or parcel it out.) _____________________ ~ Tiger Crossing ~ (Nonsanity)
Daemioth Sklar Lifetime Member Join date: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 944	11-13-2003 08:14 I agree. I like the land auctions, despite my inability to take part in them.
Loki Pico Registered User Join date: 20 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,938	11-13-2003 08:29 Im sure there is room for both. I am actually surprised that more residents dont offer their excess land for lottery.
David Cartier Registered User Join date: 8 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,018	Re: Why There should be no more land auctions ! 11-13-2003 10:51 I haven't seen Candie even place a bid in this auction, so your fears of her buying this land, too are pretty unfounded. If someone jumps in on the bidding with a much higher bid all of a sudden, they are doing us all a service by shortening the whole tedious process, since the land is going to eventually sell for a good bit more than the current high bid. The land will no doubt be bought by whichever individual or group wants it the most. Even real estate magnates don't spend too much. The idea for a lottery is really great, I have to admit. Lotteries for the new mature sims might be a very equitable way to fairly pass out shares, since no matter how many mature sims they open up they likely will not meet the demand.QUOTE]Originally posted by Regnar Bell I am posting this for a very specific reason. Only 3 or 4 people could possibly afford the land in Zoe and we all know who those people are . It really bothers me that Linden Labs dosent have the foresight to see this . Why dosent Linden hold a lottery for the land at say $1000 per ticket Limit 1 per person ? We all know who is gonna get the land dont we ? . Im not gonna post names because it is not my way. But I can say this . With the Land Shortage as bad as it is , Newcomers wont be able to buy a 4x4 parcel in a sim that isnt maxed out on prims . So no new lands for newcomers , They wont spend $$ to join Second Life. No New users = no new Sims and no new sims = no more income. And Of course no more income = no more SL eventually. So . Find another way ! [/QUOTE]
Dave Zeeman Master Procrastinator Join date: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 1,025	11-13-2003 12:29 Yeah and uh... where's my cut of the deal? _____________________ llToggleDaveZeemanIntelligence(FALSE); Philip Linden: Zeeman, strip off the suit! Dave Zeeman - Keeping Lindens on their toes since v0.3.2!
Candie Apple Senior Mumbler Join date: 1 Apr 2003 Posts: 477	11-13-2003 14:32 Huh? Edited to say: The huh is for David, not Dave.
David Cartier Registered User Join date: 8 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,018	11-13-2003 15:08 Candie, the last auction - the boardwalk land sale - everyone pretty much assumed that a certain person or group would be buying the boardwalk, but they obviously didn't buy it in the end, did they? I was just pointing out that in SL, just like real life it isn't safe to call a horse race until the horses start racing. With an auction we all of us , whether as individuals or in groups have an equal opportunity to show how much we really want that land. When Chartreuse and Mauve opened up there was a really crazy rush to buy land up that got a little ugly at times and I'm really sorry, in retrospect, that I played a part in that land rush. I do hope that whoever does buy Zoe is as responsible a steward of their land as you always are with yours. From: someone Originally posted by Candie Apple Huh? Edited to say: The huh is for David, not Dave.
Higbee Protagonist Yggdrai Ranger Join date: 7 Aug 2003 Posts: 266	Don't miss his point! 11-13-2003 17:48 I think the most important thing about what he has stated is the size of the land being auctioned. I would have liked to bid for just a quarter of the land for my project, but the price range is so high that I don't have a chance for the entire plot. I also agree with Regnar that in the long run it may be more beneficial to open the land to all and see who gets there first. Who's to say until we try?
Eznil Starseeker Registered User Join date: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 5	LAND IN ZOE - WHO CANT AFFORD IT? 11-14-2003 08:59 I have no objection or thoughts on the land auction. BUT! I have land for sale in Zoe. Its waterfront and only $8000. I'll be willing to lower the price and even rent to own as i have done for some before. The real estate in SL is just like RL. I wanted a place on Fort Lauderdale beach.... It took me six months to find just the right place at the right price. Now I rent the place out instead of vacationing there. Pretty close to SL huh?

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