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Thoughts on licences?
Azelda Garcia
Azelda Garcia
Join date: 3 Nov 2003
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10-18-2004 07:02
Looking for a licence for a product which allows you to create scripts, worlds etc.

Ideally, I'd like the product to be OpenSource, but to preserve the possibility of charging those who use it commercially. By "use it commerically", I mean: hosting the product and charging people to use that host; or creating scripts, worlds etc and charging people to use those.


Thoughts?

Azelda
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Eggy Lippmann
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10-18-2004 15:29
http://creativecommons.org/license/
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Azelda Garcia
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10-18-2004 22:05
"Licensor hereby grants You a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual (for the duration of the applicable copyright) license to exercise the rights in the Work as stated below:
  1. to reproduce the Work, to incorporate the Work into one or more Collective Works, and to reproduce the Work as incorporated in the Collective Works;
  2. to distribute copies or phonorecords of, display publicly, perform publicly, and perform publicly by means of a digital audio transmission the Work including as incorporated in Collective Works;
"

( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/legalcode )

Not sure if this is exactly the text I'm looking for :-O

Azelda
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Eggy Lippmann
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10-19-2004 02:12
Sounds good to me.
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Torley Linden
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10-19-2004 03:42
I'm with Creative Commons for my music. I like how they word things cleanly and crisply and how it's easy to select a license. Too much inefficient legal obfuscation ruins the process of licensing funstuffs and getting it out to the people. :)
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Azelda Garcia
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10-22-2004 06:21
Well, how would you "perform publically" a sim? And if you have the explicit right to do this - with no stipulation against commercial use - doesnt this sortof... allow... commercial use?

Some more info: MySQL apparently uses GPL, on the basis that if someone distributes an application that is "tightly coupled" with MySQL to the extent that you must install MySQL for the software to work, then your application must be available under the GPL.

Leaving aside the implications for my own project which uses MySQL :-) , basically if my software had a client under the GPL and your sim forced people to use this client to connect to the sim, then maybe this falls under a similar case to MySQL?

Any lawyers out there happen to know to what extent the MySQL reading of GPL lockdown on implied distribution via tight-coupling is valid?

Azelda
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Siobhan Taylor
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10-22-2004 06:39
If you're forced to use a GPLd client to use it... (i.e. the GPLd one is the ONLY option) then yes... the whole app has to be... I think...

IANAL
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Mickey Valentino
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10-22-2004 06:41
I was thinking of license plates.. I thought P1N DAB was a good one..
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Jsecure Hanks
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10-22-2004 08:41
From: Mickey Valentino
I was thinking of licesne plates.. I thought P1N DAB was a good one..


What about --> "B 0 PROBLEM"
Jsecure Hanks
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10-22-2004 08:42
... Hold on a second I'll just check...

B O Problem.

B O PROBLEM.

Hey guys, have I got a B O Problem?

"You sure do!" ha ha ha

"When I get a hold of you...."
Mickey Valentino
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10-22-2004 13:45
Guess I'm slow, I don't get it.. and I still smell like Curve so I know its not MY problem. :)
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These are very sad times to be an American but where is the rage among the citizenry? Where are the flag wavers who so laud the freedoms symbolized by a flag and written by quill pens in our constitution? Why are we not rallying in the streets against this sort of attrocity? Why because we are gluttonous lazy bastards who say it won't happen to me so who cares. --Ishtar Pasteur
Azelda Garcia
Azelda Garcia
Join date: 3 Nov 2003
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10-22-2004 17:54
> If you're forced to use a GPLd client to use it... (i.e. the GPLd one is the ONLY option) then yes... the whole app has to be... I think...

Course, put it like that, and theres an obvious downside or two.

Any ideas to prevent commercial use even if the client-server protocol were to become standardized at some point?

Azelda
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Azelda Garcia
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10-29-2004 05:19
Ok, I'm thinking modified QT licence (http://www.trolltech.com/licenses/qpl.html) sounds good, but not being a lawyer person at all I'm pretty sure if I just took it, and ignored its copyright :-O, and modified it, there'd be something I'd miss, which would render it essentially useless.

Does anyone know of a lawyer who would be able to handle the creation, or at least the verification/correction, of a licence like this?

Azelda
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