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Land Suggestion

Sassy Apple
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11-19-2003 12:28
Not sure if this is where i should post this but i figured its as good a place as any. Land Suggestion.. the Lindens all know we're all screaming for more land since some of the Sims are filling are pretty fast especially the Mature ares so this is my suggestion, why not make one huge Mature area instead of placing Matures Sim here and there.. we have 5 Matures Sim at the other end of the world that you really can't call the Outlands anymore since its more residential than anything now.. why not just build on it.. add more Mature Sims to this area instead of going in the other direction. since this is where a large bulk of the ppl who want to live Mature are.
odalisque VonLenard
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11-19-2003 12:55
I have to agree completely! I love Shipley and don't plan to move out of it anytime soon but it seems that so many people want to live down on that side of the world we are very over crowded... a few more mature sims in the area could quickly remedy the situation, giving those of us who have been there a long time some room to still be comfortable and still allow the new people moving into the area consistantly the option of being in the area without over crowding it. I am so tired of the constant worry that I won't be able to rez something when I need it...
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Pendari Lorentz
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11-19-2003 13:16
I also think this is a wonderful idea! I love the 4 mature sims together. Most of the other Mature lands have only one, or no other mature sims around them. I always feel like I'm riding a border. hehe

So I thinking adding more Mature sims onto this already existing, and very popular area, would make a lot of people very happy. :)
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Kissmi Kuroda
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11-19-2003 13:43
i agree completely. it's just weird to have Mature sims scattered all over. plus it increases the chances of innapropriate content being seen from a PG sim because there's so much more border area now.
Jellin Pico
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11-19-2003 14:52
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Originally posted by Kissmi Kuroda
i agree completely. it's just weird to have Mature sims scattered all over. plus it increases the chances of innapropriate content being seen from a PG sim because there's so much more border area now.


I can't help but wonder if that's part of the reason for having the new ones scattered around surrounded by PG's.
Haney Linden
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This is a good suggestion
11-19-2003 16:26
I imagine that Olive and Chartreuse will be connected with M sims at some point.
Dusty Rhodes
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11-19-2003 17:14
This is only loosely connected to this topic, but I have found land that is privately owned but being offered for sale. I am uncertain about the ethics of this behavior. In the real world it is possible to increase the value of land by installing utilities, preparing the site for building, adding streets, etc. This cannot be done to SL land. I think that given the scarcity of land, a player should buy land only if he or she plans to use it; not to keep it from the hands of other players and not to profit from the scarcity of resources. There are plenty of opportunities for earning money by selling services or objects or otherwise adding value to the online experience.
Siggy Romulus
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11-19-2003 17:47
Nothing wrong wtih that - capitalism at its finest.

In the real world scarcity can increase the value of something too -- also neighbourhoods and surrounds can increase/decrease the value of the individual home.

Of course noone is forcing anyone to buy this land either - a patient soul could wait and buy elsewhere as it becomes available. If someones business model isn't sound, I'm sure the populous will vote with its dollar...

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Jazz Apollo
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11-19-2003 19:05
Hey Sass - I agree completely! I would love a piece of land down beside my friends in that region of the world but it all seems very packed! I would think it would make more sense to keep the M sims as together as possible instead of making 3 distinct M 'suburbs' - but we shall see how it goes eh!
Dusty Rhodes
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11-20-2003 13:21
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Originally posted by Siggy Romulus
Nothing wrong wtih that - capitalism at its finest.

In the real world scarcity can increase the value of something too -- also neighbourhoods and surrounds can increase/decrease the value of the individual home.


Siggy, wouldn't this logic apply as well to someone who rezzed dozens or hundreds of small prims in a sim with high object usage, then offered to "sell" (derez) them at a premium to players who wanted to build in that sim? In both cases, a player is buying up a limited public resource strictly for the purpose of reselling at a higher price? And if you agree that this second behavior is also ok, would you mind letting me know, in which sims do you own property? :)
Siggy Romulus
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11-20-2003 15:06
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Originally posted by Dusty Rhodes
Siggy, wouldn't this logic apply as well to someone who rezzed dozens or hundreds of small prims in a sim with high object usage, then offered to "sell" (derez) them at a premium to players who wanted to build in that sim? In both cases, a player is buying up a limited public resource strictly for the purpose of reselling at a higher price? And if you agree that this second behavior is also ok, would you mind letting me know, in which sims do you own property? :)


Indeed that logic would apply.. mind you in both cases it doesn't mean that I personally would do that.. but by the rules of the game someone could do this, mind you they'd have to pay tax on it and you could debunk thier business model by not buying.

If you wish to know, I own land in Taber and Tan. Not that that has anything to do with anything as I neither prim bank nor sell real estate (which is what this seems to imply) -- but the same rules that allow such activity also enable me to buy a small buffer-zone around my build so it can remain undisturbed by terraforming and the like.

It's thier land, they can do with it as they please -- be that sell, terraform, or even build a flaming rotating eyesore of grief -- the same freedoms that enable them to do that, enable you to do what you wish to do.

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Camille Serpentine
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11-21-2003 06:29
I agree with you Siggy - if you buy the land it is yours to do with as you want.

For some people, open land may be what they want to see. For others it may be giant buildings. And for others it may be a giant toilet with a man on it! :)

Its an in game world, not RL. You can build whatever you want! That's the beauty of this game. Unless of course you build in the tent/cabin area or the beach houses.

I don't think my builds are all that beautiful and exciting to other people but I like them and that's what matters most.

Also, last night when I checked the big map, there was a LOT of free land for sale. And some of it was in Mature areas. Tehama (where I am) seemed to have quite a bit available.
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11-21-2003 06:51
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Originally posted by Dusty Rhodes
Siggy, wouldn't this logic apply as well to someone who rezzed dozens or hundreds of small prims in a sim with high object usage, then offered to "sell" (derez) them at a premium to players who wanted to build in that sim? In both cases, a player is buying up a limited public resource strictly for the purpose of reselling at a higher price? And if you agree that this second behavior is also ok, would you mind letting me know, in which sims do you own property? :)
Well yes, technically, this logic would work, since it is feasible in the game, except for one small point.

If you are buying land, then marking the price up, that's a business even in real life. And believe me, you don't have to buy it. Of course, if you want to live in that particular sim, then some things are just going to cost you.

However, filling an area with prims to collect payment that way is more akin to holding neighborhoods for ransom, basically making it so even well-established people now have to pay you if you want to build. This, I think, would step on too many toes simutaniously. This reminds me of hearing about the person who bought land just to destory landscapes. Technically, you can do that, but most people and LL sometimes doesn't look favorably on it. Depends on the circumstances as always.

But like someone else mentioned, a lot of land has opened up recently, so shop around. Yes, Mature land is at a premium, but I think it should be. Just be a good customer and show your support or apposal to people who practice land gouging/prim packing with your wallet.
Sassy Apple
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11-21-2003 18:40
haha i think this thread is getting a lil off topic.. i'm not talking about ppl rezzing primes and saling them because they wanna be a**holes.. this is about land which we need alot more of to keep up with SL's growing population.. in essence we need more Sims .. Matures one especially.. i'm glad you think its a good suggestions Haney.. but we want more Sims down on end.. not on the other side of the world.. you seem to building up only one area of SL and i think you need to look at our section 2... and i'm not the only who feels like our area would be a section to add some more Sims too instead of just leaving kinda bare down here.. we're all bunched together in the Sim that are popping at the seems and it would be nice to see Linden Labs take some interest in our section of the world.