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Mo' Money Mo' Money

Kimiko Onizuka
Fighter-for-Hire
Join date: 15 Feb 2004
Posts: 36
01-12-2005 09:57
Is that what this whole damn world's about?
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Lance LeFay
is a Thug
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 1,488
01-12-2005 10:05
That's kinda already been said in twenty different threads in the past 24 hours.

Please to not be putting repetitive threads in boxes
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
01-12-2005 10:06
Hey! You! Gimme free money! I paid my 9.95 for life!

How do you expect me to buy your goods if you dont give me free money, hmm? I'll leave! Then you'll be sorry!!!!
Malana Spencer
Registered User
Join date: 18 Sep 2003
Posts: 368
01-12-2005 10:08
From: Kris Ritter
Hey! You! Gimme free money! I paid my 9.95 for life!

How do you expect me to buy your goods if you dont give me free money, hmm? I'll leave! Then you'll be sorry!!!!



I second that!!!..LOL
Usagi Musashi
UM ™®
Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
01-12-2005 10:09
From: Kimiko Onizuka
Is that what this whole damn world's about?


no, but some need money to make it thur sl........If your rich there is not problem.
Talen Morgan
Amused
Join date: 2 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,097
01-12-2005 10:10
From: Usagi Musashi
no, but some need money to make it thur sl........If your rich there is not problem.



YOU DO NOT NEED MONEY TO ENJOY SL
Alexa Hope
Registered User
Join date: 8 Dec 2004
Posts: 670
01-12-2005 10:12
Talen - to back up your words, care to tell us how much you have made from SL :)

Alexa
Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 10,231
01-12-2005 10:12
[satire]It's a shame so many people missed out on joining back when LL gave us all a million lindens just for signing up.[/satire]
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
01-12-2005 10:14
From: Chip Midnight
[satire]It's a shame so many people missed out on joining back when LL gave us all a million lindens just for signing up.[/satire]


Yeah. I miss those days :(

Actually.. one I really did enjoy was when they refunded our taxes back at the advent of 1.2! Man, that really WAS payday. Who knew I had 32k's worth of stuff rezzed? lol
Ghoti Nyak
καλλιστι
Join date: 7 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,078
01-12-2005 10:15
From: Talen Morgan
YOU DO NOT NEED MONEY TO ENJOY SL


No, but you need L$ to upload any new images, sounds, or animations. For some people (content creators using anything but Linden-supplied content), the lack of L$ would certainly put the kibosh on their enjoyment.

-Ghoti
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Jacqueline Richelieu
SL Resident Economist
Join date: 28 Jul 2004
Posts: 260
01-12-2005 11:19
From: Kimiko Onizuka
Is that what this whole damn world's about?


In a nutshell. :rolleyes:
Tread Whiplash
Crazy Crafter
Join date: 25 Dec 2004
Posts: 291
Do we really NEED L$ to play?
01-12-2005 12:53
From: Ghoti Nyak
No, but you need L$ to upload any new images, sounds, or animations. For some people (content creators using anything but Linden-supplied content), the lack of L$ would certainly put the kibosh on their enjoyment.

-Ghoti



Uhhh, let me see..... L$10 to upload. And on a Basic Account I'm making L$50/week. So week 1 I can upload 5 textures / sounds. In addition to acquiring over 300 FREE Textures from TLC, YadNi's Junkyard, and other places.

I make an object, sell it for L$50. Second week, now I have L$100 - I can upload ten more textures!

How many freakin' textures do you need? I'm a long-time mapper with FPS games; and have been crafting in SL for the last 2+ weeks - so far I've uploaded 3 textures (and two of them are pictures of me for my profile)! I've made lamps, a huge pool, and am working on a strategy-game (that's where the 3rd texture went)...

The only instance for constant texture-uploading that I can see, is people who make clothes / jewelry and take snapshots of folks modelling their wares. But they can easily make that cost up the first time they sell a copy of that object.

Oh; and this ignores all ratings bonuses (yes they're getting cut, but not removed completely yet).

AND, the bottom-line is still this:
Free/Basic Account-Holders cost LindenLab real US$ - in bandwidth and upkeep. It is right and proper that they are at a disadvantage, compared to Premium-Account holders. Premium Accounts are what support the infrastructure needed to run SL - and the more paying customers, the better for all of us! Basic Account-Holders serve to expand the user-base and provide a place for people to be creative & add to the culture on SL, even if they don't have US$ to throw at an MMO every month (Ten bucks to download and play for free forever is way more than any other MMO product provides!)... Having a difference between them, monetarily speaking, provides incentives for people to upgrade - and pushes paying customers to stay active and spread their money around the virtual SL economy.

SL provides thousands of social opportunities and experiences that you can't get anywhere else - and almost all of them are free! Shopping for luxury items, gambling, and paying entrance fees (to the few events that cost L$) are the only activities that require an expenditure of L$.

Take care,

--Noel "HB" Wade
(Tread Whiplash)
Lianne Marten
Cheese Baron
Join date: 6 May 2004
Posts: 2,192
01-12-2005 13:00
I dunno what you all are talking about... make an object and sell it for L$50? I've made lots of objects and a lot of tshirts and I haven't sold a one. And they are priced less than L$50.

How many will I sell now?
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Lance LeFay
is a Thug
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 1,488
01-12-2005 13:09
From: Lianne Marten
I dunno what you all are talking about... make an object and sell it for L$50? I've made lots of objects and a lot of tshirts and I haven't sold a one. For less than L$50.

How many will I sell now?


You havent sold any for less than 50L?

Or you havent sold any, and they are priced at less than 50L?
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Lianne Marten
Cheese Baron
Join date: 6 May 2004
Posts: 2,192
01-12-2005 13:12
From: Lance LeFay
You havent sold any for less than 50L?

Or you havent sold any, and they are priced at less than 50L?


The latter... and original post edited to clarify.
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Ghoti Nyak
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Join date: 7 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,078
01-12-2005 13:18
From: someone
How many freakin' textures do you need?


More than you, apparently.

I do more building of places (well, one place in particular) than of things. Hard to put a place up for sale for $50 and yet still keep it to build on. I don't sell anything, really. Yeah, I know, my own fault if I don't put out the effort to sell... but then I also hear many tales of people putting stuff up for sale and never selling a single item.

From: someone
The only instance for constant texture-uploading that I can see


It appears you do not make animations. Sometimes I upload iterations of the same animation 4-5 or more times befroe everything looks right.

I'm not saying we need our stipends to not be reduced or whatever. I made a counter-point example to Talen saying that you don't need L$ to have fun. He made a blanket statement that does not apply to everyone, as he seems to imply.

-Ghoti
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
01-12-2005 13:28
There was once a rap anthem that preached to me its message as "Mo' Money, Mo' Problems".

I am looking forward to how MacGyverish some will get inworld with freebie-wrangling.

I myself enjoy visiting places such as the GNU Wave Architects store, with many things free or priced only 1L$.
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Alby Yellowknife
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,148
01-12-2005 13:31
Mo' Money Mo' Problems Lyrics
by Notorious Big


Verse One: Mase

Now, who's hot who not
Tell me who rock who sell out in the stores
You tell me who flopped who copped the blue drop
Who jewels got robbed who's mostly Goldie down
to the tube sock, the same ol pimp
Mase, you know ain't nuttin change but my limp
Can't stop till I see my name on a blimp
Guarantee a million sales pullin all the love
You don't believe in Harlem World nigga double up
We don't play around it's a bet lay it down
nigga didn't know me ninety-one bet they know me now
I'm the young Harlem nigga with the Goldie sound
Can't no PHD niggaz hold me down, Cooter
schooled me to the game, now I know my duty
Stay humble stay low blow like Hootie
True pimp niggaz spend no dough on the booty
And then ya yell there go Mase there go your cutie
*singers come in over this last line*

I don't know what, they want from me
It's like the more money we come across
The more problems we see
(repeat 2X)

Verse Two: Puff Daddy

Yeah yeah, ahaha, from the C-to-the-A-to-the-D-D-Y
know you'd rather see me die than to see me fly
I call all the shots
Rip all the spots, rock all the rocks
Cop all the drops, I know you thinkin now's
when all the ballin stops, nigga never
home got a chrome one and a yacht
Ten years from now we'll still be on top
Yo, I thought I told you that we won't stop
Now whatcha gonna do when it's cool
bag a money much longer than yours
and a team much stronger than yours, violate me
this'll be your day, we don't play
Mess around be D.O.A., be on your way
Cause it ain't enough time here, ain't enough lime here
for you to shine here, deal with many women
but treat dimes fair, and I'm
bigger than the city lights down in Times Square
Yeah, yeah yeah

I don't know what, they want from me
It's like the more money we come across
The more problems we see
(repeat 2X)

Verse Three: Notorious B.I.G.

Uhh, uhhh
B.I.G., P-O, P-P-A
No info, for the, DEA
Federal agents mad cause I'm flagrant
Tap my cell, and the phone in the basement
My team supreme, stay clean
Triple beam lyrical dream, I be that
Cat you see at all events bent
Gats in holsters girls on shoulders
Playboy, I told ya, bein mice to me
Bruise too much, I lose, too much
Step on stage the girls boo too much
I guess it's cause you run with lame dudes too much
Me lose my touch, never that
If I did, ain't no problem to get the gat
Where the true players at?
Throw your roadies in the sky
Wave em side to side and keep their hands high
While I give your girl the eye, player please
Lyrically, niggaz see, B.I.G.
be flossin jig on the cover of Fortune
Five double oh, get the phone number
your name, I got to know, I got to go
Got the flow down phizat, platinum plus
Like thizat, dangerous
on trizack, leave your ass kizzack

I don't know what, they want from me
It's like the more money we come across
The more problems we see
(repeat 3X)

What's goin on?
What's goin on?
I don't know what, they want from me
It's like the more money we come across
The more problems we see
(repeat 3X to fade)
Alby Yellowknife
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,148
01-12-2005 13:34
Leyla Firefly
Photoshop Addict
Join date: 8 Aug 2004
Posts: 146
01-12-2005 14:12
oops...forgot leyla was still logged on my computer
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