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Richard Pinkerton

Registered User

Join date: 20 Jan 2005

Posts: 125

04-11-2005 15:12

Appologies if this has been posted already, but there's a story on BBC News Online about the ongoing private investigation/spying controversy.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4432019.stm

SL must really be hitting the bigtime (or LL have got some good PR people working for them now). Mentions in Edge magazine are all well and good, but this story on BBC News Online will be read by thousands of times more people than will ever see a copy of Edge.

Rebeccah Baysklef

Meow, Damnit

Join date: 22 Sep 2003

Posts: 114

04-11-2005 15:24

SL has always had good media coverage, what with the embedded reporters and everything.

Heck, I and a whole bunch of other people came to SL in September of 2003 after reading about it in a Wired article.

Roberta Dalek

Probably trouble

Join date: 21 Oct 2004

Posts: 1,174

04-11-2005 15:28

Yes this is very good coverage for SL

The BBC news site is one of the most popular web sites in the UK (if not the most popular).

Paolo Portocarrero

Puritanical Hedonist

Join date: 28 Apr 2004

Posts: 2,393

04-11-2005 15:46

Interesting read and cool screen shots.

As for the PI controversy, it's probably an overblown concern. I am curious how the ToS applies in such cases, though.

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Beryl Greenacre

Big Scaredy-Baby

Join date: 24 Jun 2003

Posts: 1,312

04-11-2005 16:11

Interesting article, though they got one crucial fact wrong: Markie McDonald and Bruno Buckenburger ARE SL "detectives." The article paints the avs as two examples of people who have used the services of SL "detectives."

Leave it to the media to play up the most sordid aspects of anything, eh? Oh, well, the article still features a great shot of Lordfly's original Grignano Towers build. And, I suppose any publicity is good for business.

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blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

04-11-2005 16:11

The funny thing about the honey trap is a lot of men are hiring these organisations to set up a honey trap for themselves.

That way when they're out they're always getting hit on by the ladies.

Heh heh.. ah what a tangled web we weave.

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Chance Abattoir

Future Rockin' Resmod

Join date: 3 Apr 2004

Posts: 3,898

No Torley?

04-11-2005 16:28

Why wasn't Torley in this article? I mean, it would be a perfect addition to the brief mention that someone might not be the sex in RL that they are in SL. Not to mention that Torley is also a bona fide celebrity in SL.

There really ought to be a new word invented for "celebrity for SL."

SLicon?! That actually sounds kind of naughty.

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Torley Linden

Enlightenment!

Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

04-11-2005 16:57

Awwwwww thanks Chance, but really, it's okay. Actually I should point out that I likely would not be in SL were it not for Hamlet's NWN. Funny thing because one of the primary reasons why I'm here is to praise others -- and of course, Hamlet's already done a nice article on Jadey + Torley. We, however, are not adulterers. LOL.

*Torlop hops off*

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Chance Abattoir

Future Rockin' Resmod

Join date: 3 Apr 2004

Posts: 3,898

04-11-2005 17:04

From: Torley Torgeson

Awwwwww thanks Chance, but really, it's okay. Actually I should point out that I likely would not be in SL were it not for Hamlet's NWN. Funny thing because one of the primary reasons why I'm here is to praise others -- and of course, Hamlet's already done a nice article on Jadey + Torley. We, however, are not adulterers. LOL.

*Torlop hops off*

Haha... Yes. I know you aren't adulterers, but you are metasexual.
Did I just coin a new term?

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-Insane Ramblings, Anton LaVey

blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

04-11-2005 17:20

Hmm, 1280 hits on Yahoo. "MetaSexual" is an album by JoyDrop

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Cienna Samiam

Bah.

Join date: 13 Mar 2005

Posts: 1,316

04-11-2005 17:40

If that just doesn't take the prize, I really do not know what does... just goes to show, the world cares more for icing than cake. So meh... let them eat cake.

(Why does it not surprise me that given the chance to talk about the very real issues of privacy and consumer rights, the BBC (and Hamlet) choose instead to talk about how glamorous it is to mislead and spy on others?)

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Chance Abattoir

Future Rockin' Resmod

Join date: 3 Apr 2004

Posts: 3,898

04-11-2005 17:42

From: blaze Spinnaker

Hmm, 1280 hits on Yahoo. "MetaSexual" is an album by JoyDrop

Darn. Well 1280 is a very small number. Maybe we can popularize its use in SL. Get those meme juices flowing.

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Judah Jimador

Registered User

Join date: 13 Mar 2005

Posts: 230

04-11-2005 18:10

I've already met my first newcomer, drawn in by the coverage

I wonder how many will follow in the next few days?

-- jj

Rebeccah Baysklef

Meow, Damnit

Join date: 22 Sep 2003

Posts: 114

04-11-2005 19:26

From: Chance Abattoir

Why wasn't Torley in this article? I mean, it would be a perfect addition to the brief mention that someone might not be the sex in RL that they are in SL. Not to mention that Torley is also a bona fide celebrity in SL.

There really ought to be a new word invented for "celebrity for SL."

SLicon?! That actually sounds kind of naughty.

SLebrity?

Ursula Madison

Chewbacca is my co-pilot

Join date: 31 Jul 2004

Posts: 713

04-12-2005 04:36

From: Rebeccah Baysklef

SLebrity?

We have a winner!

I vote for Torley as the first official SLebrity!

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Rebeccah Baysklef

Meow, Damnit

Join date: 22 Sep 2003

Posts: 114

I got a million of them.

04-12-2005 06:58

Yippie! Do I get to be a SLebrity too for coining the phrase SLebrity? I call dibs on the rights to sell official "SLebrity" t-shirts!

Now to invent more clever memes! Madam Catchphrase, away!!!!

Torley Linden

Enlightenment!

Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

04-12-2005 12:10

*superbigtimeblush*

Rumor has it I'm part of the 1.6.x source code, a free Torley in every box... but no I'm not responsible for the instability. Hee.

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Markie Macdonald

Hello MUM! x

Join date: 20 Dec 2004

Posts: 65

More free publicity...

04-15-2005 08:03

Thought you would like to know.. The Times of London are also doing a thing in this weekends papers (I think its the weekend) about sex and SL and how relationships work.. and why pay for a Private Investigator in a virtual world....

p.s. I think we should have a SL walk of fame and I vote for Torley as first star.. just after what I have seen ...

Olympia Rebus

Muse of Chaos

Join date: 22 Feb 2004

Posts: 1,831

04-15-2005 08:26

From: Beryl Greenacre

Leave it to the media to play up the most sordid aspects of anything, eh?

Yep.
I forwarded the article to some non-SL friends (and my dad). Seemed like an interesting way to show what a complex, vibrant world SL was.
Only afterwards I thought: What did I just do? Here I spend all my time in SL building and wandering solo, but thanks to that article they'll think I'm cavorting in an online X-rated romper room.

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SL story on BBC News Online
Richard Pinkerton Registered User Join date: 20 Jan 2005 Posts: 125	04-11-2005 15:12 Appologies if this has been posted already, but there's a story on BBC News Online about the ongoing private investigation/spying controversy. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4432019.stm SL must really be hitting the bigtime (or LL have got some good PR people working for them now). Mentions in Edge magazine are all well and good, but this story on BBC News Online will be read by thousands of times more people than will ever see a copy of Edge.
Rebeccah Baysklef Meow, Damnit Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 114	04-11-2005 15:24 SL has always had good media coverage, what with the embedded reporters and everything. Heck, I and a whole bunch of other people came to SL in September of 2003 after reading about it in a Wired article.
Roberta Dalek Probably trouble Join date: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 1,174	04-11-2005 15:28 Yes this is very good coverage for SL The BBC news site is one of the most popular web sites in the UK (if not the most popular).
Paolo Portocarrero Puritanical Hedonist Join date: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 2,393	04-11-2005 15:46 Interesting read and cool screen shots. As for the PI controversy, it's probably an overblown concern. I am curious how the ToS applies in such cases, though. _____________________ Facades by Paolo - Photo-Realistic Skins for Doods > Flagship store, Santo Paolo's Lofts & Boutiques > SLBoutique
Beryl Greenacre Big Scaredy-Baby Join date: 24 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,312	04-11-2005 16:11 Interesting article, though they got one crucial fact wrong: Markie McDonald and Bruno Buckenburger ARE SL "detectives." The article paints the avs as two examples of people who have used the services of SL "detectives." Leave it to the media to play up the most sordid aspects of anything, eh? Oh, well, the article still features a great shot of Lordfly's original Grignano Towers build. And, I suppose any publicity is good for business. _____________________ Swell Second Life: Menswear by Beryl Greenacre Miramare 105, 82/ Aqua 192, 112/ Image Reflections Design, Freedom 121, 121
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	04-11-2005 16:11 The funny thing about the honey trap is a lot of men are hiring these organisations to set up a honey trap for themselves. That way when they're out they're always getting hit on by the ladies. Heh heh.. ah what a tangled web we weave. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Chance Abattoir Future Rockin' Resmod Join date: 3 Apr 2004 Posts: 3,898	No Torley? 04-11-2005 16:28 Why wasn't Torley in this article? I mean, it would be a perfect addition to the brief mention that someone might not be the sex in RL that they are in SL. Not to mention that Torley is also a bona fide celebrity in SL. There really ought to be a new word invented for "celebrity for SL." SLicon?! That actually sounds kind of naughty. _____________________ "The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence." -Insane Ramblings, Anton LaVey
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	04-11-2005 16:57 Awwwwww thanks Chance, but really, it's okay. Actually I should point out that I likely would not be in SL were it not for Hamlet's NWN. Funny thing because one of the primary reasons why I'm here is to praise others -- and of course, Hamlet's already done a nice article on Jadey + Torley. We, however, are not adulterers. LOL. Torlop hops off _____________________
Chance Abattoir Future Rockin' Resmod Join date: 3 Apr 2004 Posts: 3,898	04-11-2005 17:04 From: Torley Torgeson Awwwwww thanks Chance, but really, it's okay. Actually I should point out that I likely would not be in SL were it not for Hamlet's NWN. Funny thing because one of the primary reasons why I'm here is to praise others -- and of course, Hamlet's already done a nice article on Jadey + Torley. We, however, are not adulterers. LOL. Torlop hops off Haha... Yes. I know you aren't adulterers, but you are metasexual. Did I just coin a new term? _____________________ "The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence." -Insane Ramblings, Anton LaVey
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	04-11-2005 17:20 Hmm, 1280 hits on Yahoo. "MetaSexual" is an album by JoyDrop _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Cienna Samiam Bah. Join date: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,316	04-11-2005 17:40 If that just doesn't take the prize, I really do not know what does... just goes to show, the world cares more for icing than cake. So meh... let them eat cake. (Why does it not surprise me that given the chance to talk about the very real issues of privacy and consumer rights, the BBC (and Hamlet) choose instead to talk about how glamorous it is to mislead and spy on others?) _____________________ Just remember, they only care about you when you're buying sims.
Chance Abattoir Future Rockin' Resmod Join date: 3 Apr 2004 Posts: 3,898	04-11-2005 17:42 From: blaze Spinnaker Hmm, 1280 hits on Yahoo. "MetaSexual" is an album by JoyDrop Darn. Well 1280 is a very small number. Maybe we can popularize its use in SL. Get those meme juices flowing. _____________________ "The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence." -Insane Ramblings, Anton LaVey
Judah Jimador Registered User Join date: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 230	04-11-2005 18:10 I've already met my first newcomer, drawn in by the coverage I wonder how many will follow in the next few days? -- jj
Rebeccah Baysklef Meow, Damnit Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 114	04-11-2005 19:26 From: Chance Abattoir Why wasn't Torley in this article? I mean, it would be a perfect addition to the brief mention that someone might not be the sex in RL that they are in SL. Not to mention that Torley is also a bona fide celebrity in SL. There really ought to be a new word invented for "celebrity for SL." SLicon?! That actually sounds kind of naughty. SLebrity?
Ursula Madison Chewbacca is my co-pilot Join date: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 713	04-12-2005 04:36 From: Rebeccah Baysklef SLebrity? We have a winner! I vote for Torley as the first official SLebrity! _____________________ "Huh... did everything just taste purple for a second?" -- Philip J. Fry
Rebeccah Baysklef Meow, Damnit Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 114	I got a million of them. 04-12-2005 06:58 Yippie! Do I get to be a SLebrity too for coining the phrase SLebrity? I call dibs on the rights to sell official "SLebrity" t-shirts! Now to invent more clever memes! Madam Catchphrase, away!!!!
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	04-12-2005 12:10 superbigtimeblush Rumor has it I'm part of the 1.6.x source code, a free Torley in every box... but no I'm not responsible for the instability. Hee. _____________________
Markie Macdonald Hello MUM! x Join date: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 65	More free publicity... 04-15-2005 08:03 Thought you would like to know.. The Times of London are also doing a thing in this weekends papers (I think its the weekend) about sex and SL and how relationships work.. and why pay for a Private Investigator in a virtual world.... p.s. I think we should have a SL walk of fame and I vote for Torley as first star.. just after what I have seen ...
Olympia Rebus Muse of Chaos Join date: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 1,831	04-15-2005 08:26 From: Beryl Greenacre Leave it to the media to play up the most sordid aspects of anything, eh? Yep. I forwarded the article to some non-SL friends (and my dad). Seemed like an interesting way to show what a complex, vibrant world SL was. Only afterwards I thought: What did I just do? Here I spend all my time in SL building and wandering solo, but thanks to that article they'll think I'm cavorting in an online X-rated romper room. _____________________

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