Is it an abuse of power?
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Catherine Cotton
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11-24-2004 12:45
As per Robin and LL forums guide lines just answer yes or no and if you want your reason. Is it an abuse of power for a land broker/land baron to ban any person from all the land they own. There by restricting game play? Yes or No and Why if you want  |
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MrsJakal Suavage
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11-24-2004 12:50
Depends. If the reason for banning is because that person as attempted to or has greifed that persons land then yes. If its because they got neg rated or was told something they didn't like for example "that outfit is ugly" "your building sucks" stuff like that, then No, I think banning from all that land is unfair. |
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Willow Zander
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11-24-2004 12:51
I agree totally with MJ on this... depends on the circustances of the banning
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Omen Torgeson
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11-24-2004 12:52
From: Catherine Cotton As per Robin and LL forums guide lines just answer yes or no and if you want your reason. Is it an abuse of power for a land broker/land baron to ban any person from all the land they own. There by restricting game play? Yes or No and Why if you want I'll say no. Because as property owners, we're given the option to ban whomever we want from our land for whatever reason. I think it's in anyone's right whether they own 16m2 or 16km2 if they want to ban someone from some or all of their property. Ethics and decency are a different thing. But abuse of power? I'd have to stick with no.
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Robin Linden
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11-24-2004 12:52
Catherine, I think you can set this up as a poll if you want. When you start the thread there's a choice toward the bottom of the page to "make this a poll". Just a thought.
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Catherine Cotton
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11-24-2004 12:55
Thanks Robin I wasn't aware of that Everyone thanks for staying on topic |
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Khamon Fate
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11-24-2004 12:59
From: Robin Linden Catherine, I think you can set this up as a poll if you want. When you start the thread there's a choice toward the bottom of the page to "make this a poll". Just a thought. i wasn't aware of this either. ho ho ho here come da pollin or not, must be an admin only feature. oh and yes it is but rather than calling it an abuse of power, call it a tos violation and report it. this is one thing ll have always enforced.
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Moleculor Satyr
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11-25-2004 06:46
From: Robin Linden Catherine, I think you can set this up as a poll if you want. When you start the thread there's a choice toward the bottom of the page to "make this a poll". Just a thought. Uh... No. Just you admins can. As for it being an abuse of power? Hell no. Would you consider it an abuse of power if the owner of a chain of malls/stores/whatever across the grid banned a specific person from all those plots? Uh... no.
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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11-25-2004 06:48
From: Moleculor Satyr Uh... No. Just you admins can.
As for it being an abuse of power? Hell no.
Would you consider it an abuse of power if the owner of a chain of malls/stores/whatever across the grid banned a specific person from all those plots? Uh... no. ... |
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Kris Ritter
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11-25-2004 07:04
As long as it doesnt violate the ToS by blocking someone from their own plot, I guess it's not an abuse of power. It's no different from me banning someone from my island sim. And believe me, LOADS of people are banned from my island sim |
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Talen Morgan
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11-25-2004 07:12
From: Kris Ritter As long as it doesnt violate the ToS by blocking someone from their own plot, I guess it's not an abuse of power. It's no different from me banning someone from my island sim. And believe me, LOADS of people are banned from my island sim awww it's Thanksgiving...unban the Lindens  |
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Kris Ritter
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11-25-2004 07:31
From: Talen Morgan awww it's Thanksgiving...unban the Lindens I would somewhat doubt it's even possible to ban the Lindens, but it's a thought I'll try a simple addition to my land ban script later than parses the names and bans anyone with the surname Linden. Then release it public and free to copy. Mwahaha. No, most of the people I have banned are people who have deserved it for causing me problems on the island in one form or another. Although there are a couple of people banned because I simply cant stand them. Not that they'd come anyway, I guess, since I make no effort to disguise the fact I can't stand them. But hey, that's what I pay my money for it for.. to discriminate unfairly against people as I see fit! |
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Brad Lupis
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11-25-2004 07:59
I think it would all depend on the context of what happened, why that person got banned. If it was for something legitimate, then ban them, but only if it doesn't hinder the rest of that persons second life. And if that still doesn't help, then they have the same line that we have, the very useful help menu option up top called the report abuse option. But I think banning someone from ALL the land that person owns is a little much, ecspecially considering that most land barons keep the land by gaming the system, so TECHNICALLY, they shouldn't really own that land. But that's just my personal opinion.
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Robin Linden
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11-25-2004 08:29
Whether it is nice or neighborly, it is allowable to ban someone from all your land. The exception would be if in doing so you made it impossible for them to get to their land (say your land surrounds theirs).
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Kris Ritter
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11-25-2004 08:31
From: Robin Linden Whether it is nice or neighborly, it is allowable to ban someone from all your land. The exception would be if in doing so you made it impossible for them to get to their land (say your land surrounds theirs). I was right! Robin said so! *bounces around with tongue out* |
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Sensual Casanova
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11-25-2004 08:32
From: Robin Linden Whether it is nice or neighborly, it is allowable to ban someone from all your land. The exception would be if in doing so you made it impossible for them to get to their land (say your land surrounds theirs). So I guess that means Anshe has alot of unbanning to do? |
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Tia Armitage
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11-25-2004 09:15
I don't think it is an abuse of power either. I mean it is your land and you should be able to do whatever you want on your land. Just like in real life, if you don't want someone on your land it is called tresspassing and you can take action. Whether it is adhered by is another story. In SL, the same principles should apply. Just my 2 cents.
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Ryen Jade
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11-25-2004 09:25
No, but it is immoral.
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Tia Armitage
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11-25-2004 11:21
How is it immoral? If I don't want people on my land somebody doesn't have the right to tell me that I have to allow people on my land. Nothing immoral about it. It is a matter of rights and freedoms. Now if the person indiscriminantly bans people, that may be just rude but not immoral.
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Nexus Nash
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11-25-2004 11:50
No! It's their land, they paided for it so it's their choice!
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Ryen Jade
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11-25-2004 12:19
From: Tia Armitage How is it immoral? If I don't want people on my land somebody doesn't have the right to tell me that I have to allow people on my land. Nothing immoral about it. It is a matter of rights and freedoms. Now if the person indiscriminantly bans people, that may be just rude but not immoral. Read the entire first post, then come back and argue.
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