Second Life Forums Archive - 1.1 love/hate/indifference thread

Wednesday Grimm

Ex Libris

Join date: 9 Jan 2003

Posts: 934

10-23-2003 09:58

Love
Particles
Telehubs/invite to here
Impossible to accidentally unsit
New icons for inventory types
Ground texture and detail

Hate
Loss of "Focus on" menu item (but it's probably just a case of getting used to it)
Mini-map

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Sarcasm meter:
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Rating: Awww Jeeze!

Cienna Rand

Inside Joke

Join date: 20 Sep 2003

Posts: 489

10-23-2003 10:36

Love
New sitting positions. No more hands in the air, now in my lap. No more spread legs on the ground.
Wind waving hair and clothing.
Summoning

Hate
No trackers on minimap
No tracking person/place/coordinates all at the same time.
New idle animation with hands on hips and legs apart.

Indifferent
Um... Always Run?

Cubey Terra

Aircraft Builder

Join date: 6 Sep 2003

Posts: 1,725

10-23-2003 10:41

Love
- Telehubs and free teleports
- New land properties
- New object/clothing permissions
- New full-size map. Excellent work, Linden Lab.
- Reflective textures (oooh, shiny).

Hate
- Restrictions on where you can set "Home" (more on this later).
- Removed object "Modify" permission
- No more drop-downs on mini-map

. I liked being able to track people/places w/o having to open a gigantic, screen-obscuring dialog.
- Still crashing several times per hour.

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Okay, here's why I dislike the restrictions on where you can set "Home". I have an ATI card and I crash a lot. Previously, when I arrived somewhere I wanted to be for a while, like an event, I'd set that spot as "Home". That way, when I inevitably crashed, I'd reappear in that spot.

"Last Location" is only saved when you log off properly and do not crash.

Now, in 1.1, there's no way to make sure that I'm in the same spot when I relog. That means that if I crash during an event, I have to teleport and fly from the nearest TeleHub, which may not be nearby. It's a real pain, and I don't see why "Home" can't be any arbitrary spot.

<End Of Rant>

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Hikaru Yamamoto

Oldbie

Join date: 10 Mar 2003

Posts: 895

10-23-2003 14:08

Love
-free teleporting
-skirts
-new big map
-particles
-shiny and bumpy objects
-running

Hate
-music and sounds take forever to load
-crashing and lag has increased
-flying is akward
-the minimap is annoying

-to invite someone to your group you gotta type out their name and suff instead of just right clicking and choosing invite in their profile
-if someone bumps into you, an abuse window pops up. this may encourage a noob to report that person. It should pop up if that person is repeatedly bumped or something.

Jack Digeridoo

machinimaniac

Join date: 29 Jul 2003

Posts: 1,170

10-23-2003 14:10

Love
-----
- Telehubs
- Deeds
- Map Overlays (more please!)
- All the hard work that went into it

Hate
------
- ATI's broken promises about their drivers. I'm such a sucker.

Lyra Muse

Aesthetic Mechanic

Join date: 1 Apr 2003

Posts: 388

10-23-2003 14:48

Hate is such a strong word!

Love
-----
- Telehubbies!
- Flying. Move over Wright bros!
- Running.
- The fact that the giant, screen-obscuring map can be resized.
- How avatars and prims morph when you change them.
- Detail in terrian/water/trees.
- Group enhancements except for....

Dislike
-------
- The fact that only group officers can remove unwanted prims from group land.
- How sounds cue up (I had 182 downloading clips yesterday, whee!)
- The fact that people are so upset with all the bugs, but were so impatient to see 1.1 come out ASAP. ^.~

At least it's here, yay!

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Darzus Strutt

Registered User

Join date: 3 Sep 2003

Posts: 67

10-23-2003 15:22

Likes

Running
Graphics improvements
Teleport Invites
Free teleporting
Vehicle Physics
Group Land Deeds

Dislikes

Crashing
music/sound dowload time

Lyra Muse

Aesthetic Mechanic

Join date: 1 Apr 2003

Posts: 388

10-23-2003 15:23

Oh, I forgot one more for the "Love" category - "Print Online Notification" in the General tab of Preferences. Can we say HECK YEAH? No more spam!

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Chip Midnight

ate my baby!

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 10,231

10-23-2003 17:16

LOVE:
-avatar improvements... smoother rounder better
-rippling hair and clothing
-terrain improvements
-permissions!
-land controls
-skirts
-teleport invites
-big map
-telehubs

HATE:
-new "improved" uv mapping in the crotch area (it's still just as stretched, just differently)
-the technical issues preventing me from playing on both of my two computers (might not be an LL issue but I hate it just the same!)

INDIFFERENT:
-everything else I haven't been able to check out yet

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Garoad Kuroda

Prophet of Muppetry

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,989

10-23-2003 23:51

Love:
Teletubbi--hubbies
Particle system
Big supermap
Sitting improvements/Ride

Hate:
Minimap changes...eh at least you can click on it to get to the useful one..
Shiny textures! (ATI victim, doesn't work whatsoever)
Bump mapping (ATI victim)

Indifferent:
The "Avatar Vertex something" option makes hair fringes look grey...at least it can be turned off....whatever it is.

Damned:
Crashes and lockups

Edit:
Changed ATI user to ATI victim

Christopher Omega

Oxymoron

Join date: 28 Mar 2003

Posts: 1,828

10-24-2003 00:27

Love:

Vehicle fixes and all improvments made to LSL.
Shineyness (when it works... another ATI victim)
Better organization of prefs window.
Objects traveling across sim borders have less of a complete mangling.
Crossing sim borders more smoothly.
Less lag around events.
um... thats about it

Hates

Graphics crashes
Graphics corruption
Slow sound responce
Slow Graphics responce
Bulky huge-arse non-position-remembering map
Almost useless 'miniMap'
Inability to IM large groups of calling cards.

Indifferences

Running (too laggy on my end)

Uh,,, thats really all I can think of...

Oh yeah...

ATI SUCKS!

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Julian Fate

80's Pop Star

Join date: 19 Oct 2003

Posts: 1,020

10-24-2003 10:28

Love
Free teleports
Shiny surfaces
Flying motion
Vehicles
Nicer ground
Running

Hate
Lack of options on minimap
"Taking a leak" idle animation
Loss of old ground sitting animation as an option
Abuse popups

Gwydeon Nomad

Registered User

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 480

10-24-2003 11:05

Love:
Partical effects
Shiney
Bumps (but we need more)
Vehicals (scripts)
Group managment
"Skirt" Mesh
Teleporting closer, faster....
Map features
Map overlays
Hair / clothing wind effects
Permissions

Hate:
Primitives that wont stay put or go where you tell them to
Faster proformance (after cashing)
Shiney Dosnt work on tranparancy (windows anyone?

)
Land deeding looses you all control and pruchase price becomes group funds without warning
"Skirt mesh" top terminates in most people's chest instead of at waist line / hips, no ajustment for this.
No mini map usage
Map overlays revert automaticly upon close
Brightness / Darkness bumps not working well (This is probably just a per texture issue, will do testing on this asap)
Permissions (I like to know how things tick >_< and now I cant breakt them to find out hehe)

Indifferent:
Run - My AV runs like a girl lol
Teleportation to hubs instead of desired location (I realy dont think this is going to work)

Julian Fate

80's Pop Star

Join date: 19 Oct 2003

Posts: 1,020

10-24-2003 13:54

I forgot to add, I too hate how prims jump around when I edit them now. It's so difficult to make them stay put and even selecting the texture often makes the prim move, even in a linked set.

Gwydeon, shiny surfaces work with transparency for me. Maybe it's a question of settings or video card.

1.1 love/hate/indifference thread
Wednesday Grimm Ex Libris Join date: 9 Jan 2003 Posts: 934	10-23-2003 09:58 Love Particles Telehubs/invite to here Impossible to accidentally unsit New icons for inventory types Ground texture and detail Hate Loss of "Focus on" menu item (but it's probably just a case of getting used to it) Mini-map _____________________ Sarcasm meter: *0 \|------------------------\| 10** Rating: Awww Jeeze!
Cienna Rand Inside Joke Join date: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 489	10-23-2003 10:36 Love New sitting positions. No more hands in the air, now in my lap. No more spread legs on the ground. Wind waving hair and clothing. Summoning Hate No trackers on minimap No tracking person/place/coordinates all at the same time. New idle animation with hands on hips and legs apart. Indifferent Um... Always Run?
Cubey Terra Aircraft Builder Join date: 6 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,725	10-23-2003 10:41 Love - Telehubs and free teleports - New land properties - New object/clothing permissions - New full-size map. Excellent work, Linden Lab. - Reflective textures (oooh, shiny). Hate - Restrictions on where you can set "Home" (more on this later). - Removed object "Modify" permission - No more drop-downs on mini-map . I liked being able to track people/places w/o having to open a gigantic, screen-obscuring dialog. - Still crashing several times per hour. --- Okay, here's why I dislike the restrictions on where you can set "Home". I have an ATI card and I crash a lot. Previously, when I arrived somewhere I wanted to be for a while, like an event, I'd set that spot as "Home". That way, when I inevitably crashed, I'd reappear in that spot. "Last Location" is only saved when you log off properly and do not crash. Now, in 1.1, there's no way to make sure that I'm in the same spot when I relog. That means that if I crash during an event, I have to teleport and fly from the nearest TeleHub, which may not be nearby. It's a real pain, and I don't see why "Home" can't be any arbitrary spot. <End Of Rant> ---
Hikaru Yamamoto Oldbie Join date: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 895	10-23-2003 14:08 Love -free teleporting -skirts -new big map -particles -shiny and bumpy objects -running Hate -music and sounds take forever to load -crashing and lag has increased -flying is akward -the minimap is annoying -to invite someone to your group you gotta type out their name and suff instead of just right clicking and choosing invite in their profile -if someone bumps into you, an abuse window pops up. this may encourage a noob to report that person. It should pop up if that person is repeatedly bumped or something.
Jack Digeridoo machinimaniac Join date: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 1,170	10-23-2003 14:10 Love ----- - Telehubs - Deeds - Map Overlays (more please!) - All the hard work that went into it Hate ------ - ATI's broken promises about their drivers. I'm such a sucker.
Lyra Muse Aesthetic Mechanic Join date: 1 Apr 2003 Posts: 388	10-23-2003 14:48 Hate is such a strong word! Love ----- - Telehubbies! - Flying. Move over Wright bros! - Running. - The fact that the giant, screen-obscuring map can be resized. - How avatars and prims morph when you change them. - Detail in terrian/water/trees. - Group enhancements except for.... Dislike ------- - The fact that only group officers can remove unwanted prims from group land. - How sounds cue up (I had 182 downloading clips yesterday, whee!) - The fact that people are so upset with all the bugs, but were so impatient to see 1.1 come out ASAP. ^.~ At least it's here, yay! _____________________ Blog: the-jaywalk.blogspot.com Jaywalk SLurl: slurl.com/secondlife/Lithium%20City/64/7/26/ SLEx: www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&MerchantID=488 OnRez: shop.onrez.com/Lyra_Muse
Darzus Strutt Registered User Join date: 3 Sep 2003 Posts: 67	10-23-2003 15:22 Likes Running Graphics improvements Teleport Invites Free teleporting Vehicle Physics Group Land Deeds Dislikes Crashing music/sound dowload time
Lyra Muse Aesthetic Mechanic Join date: 1 Apr 2003 Posts: 388	10-23-2003 15:23 Oh, I forgot one more for the "Love" category - "Print Online Notification" in the General tab of Preferences. Can we say HECK YEAH? No more spam! _____________________ Blog: the-jaywalk.blogspot.com Jaywalk SLurl: slurl.com/secondlife/Lithium%20City/64/7/26/ SLEx: www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&MerchantID=488 OnRez: shop.onrez.com/Lyra_Muse
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	10-23-2003 17:16 LOVE: -avatar improvements... smoother rounder better -rippling hair and clothing -terrain improvements -permissions! -land controls -skirts -teleport invites -big map -telehubs HATE: -new "improved" uv mapping in the crotch area (it's still just as stretched, just differently) -the technical issues preventing me from playing on both of my two computers (might not be an LL issue but I hate it just the same!) INDIFFERENT: -everything else I haven't been able to check out yet _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	10-23-2003 23:51 Love: Teletubbi--hubbies Particle system Big supermap Sitting improvements/Ride Hate: Minimap changes...eh at least you can click on it to get to the useful one.. Shiny textures! (ATI victim, doesn't work whatsoever) Bump mapping (ATI victim) Indifferent: The "Avatar Vertex something" option makes hair fringes look grey...at least it can be turned off....whatever it is. Damned: Crashes and lockups Edit: Changed ATI user to ATI victim
Christopher Omega Oxymoron Join date: 28 Mar 2003 Posts: 1,828	10-24-2003 00:27 Love: Vehicle fixes and all improvments made to LSL. Shineyness (when it works... another ATI victim) Better organization of prefs window. Objects traveling across sim borders have less of a complete mangling. Crossing sim borders more smoothly. Less lag around events. um... thats about it Hates Graphics crashes Graphics corruption Slow sound responce Slow Graphics responce Bulky huge-arse non-position-remembering map Almost useless 'miniMap' Inability to IM large groups of calling cards. Indifferences Running (too laggy on my end) Uh,,, thats really all I can think of... Oh yeah... ATI SUCKS! _____________________ October 3rd is the Day Against DRM (Digital Restrictions Management), learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm
Julian Fate 80's Pop Star Join date: 19 Oct 2003 Posts: 1,020	10-24-2003 10:28 Love Free teleports Shiny surfaces Flying motion Vehicles Nicer ground Running Hate Lack of options on minimap "Taking a leak" idle animation Loss of old ground sitting animation as an option Abuse popups
Gwydeon Nomad Registered User Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 480	10-24-2003 11:05 Love: Partical effects Shiney Bumps (but we need more) Vehicals (scripts) Group managment "Skirt" Mesh Teleporting closer, faster.... Map features Map overlays Hair / clothing wind effects Permissions Hate: Primitives that wont stay put or go where you tell them to Faster proformance (after cashing) Shiney Dosnt work on tranparancy (windows anyone? ) Land deeding looses you all control and pruchase price becomes group funds without warning "Skirt mesh" top terminates in most people's chest instead of at waist line / hips, no ajustment for this. No mini map usage Map overlays revert automaticly upon close Brightness / Darkness bumps not working well (This is probably just a per texture issue, will do testing on this asap) Permissions (I like to know how things tick >_< and now I cant breakt them to find out hehe) Indifferent: Run - My AV runs like a girl lol Teleportation to hubs instead of desired location (I realy dont think this is going to work)
Julian Fate 80's Pop Star Join date: 19 Oct 2003 Posts: 1,020	10-24-2003 13:54 I forgot to add, I too hate how prims jump around when I edit them now. It's so difficult to make them stay put and even selecting the texture often makes the prim move, even in a linked set. Gwydeon, shiny surfaces work with transparency for me. Maybe it's a question of settings or video card.

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