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blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

03-13-2005 02:15

Since obviously they are not, I think I'm going to go write me one!

If you see a "thanx pete" object in the sky, please ignore. It's just my way of thanking the guy who paved the way for us..

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Weedy Herbst

Too many parameters

Join date: 5 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,255

03-13-2005 04:45

From: blaze Spinnaker

Since obviously they are not, I think I'm going to go write me one!

If you see a "thanx pete" object in the sky, please ignore. It's just my way of thanking the guy who paved the way for us..

The jury is still out on this one blaze. The Lindens have not expressed a final verdict as of yet, but I get a feeling they will arrive to alot more abuse reports on Monday. They don't always work as fast as we would like, but they are addressing it.

The problem didnt spring up yesterday though, so it seems a case of the squeeky wheel.

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Tcoz Bach

Tyrell Victim

Join date: 10 Dec 2002

Posts: 973

03-13-2005 09:01

Actually, after a report of objects that were scanning Tringo land months back, Linden said that this is perfectly legal. Land scanning is in no way a TOS violation. An object passing over your property is also legal.

Far as I can tell the only jury that is still out on this one is the Forums one. This has been going on for months. And, as that Linden said, the guy doing it is a "a good guy, and not doing anything malicious".

So, feel free blaze! In fact I posted the same thing before reading this post. We can start a market and compete! Let's tell people exactly how they can use this information as well so it's not just for fun...everybody can profit! Hooray public info! Hooray TOS! Anybody cries about it, wave the TOS in their face, tell 'em to cry to a Linden, ban them from your land and put them on ignore.

Can't beat 'em, join 'em.

Hey, a ways back, I started a thread on this for the very same reason. Interestingly, the community didn't have a problem with it then.

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blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

03-13-2005 09:49

here's my pseudo code (rough draft), let me know if you think there are any problems with this. this should contain everything.. should have a copy of itself called "Child" in its inventory.

<ok well maybe we should wait until Robin does her due dilligence before teaching everyone how to take down the grid..>

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Aimee Weber

The one on the right

Join date: 30 Jan 2004

Posts: 4,286

03-13-2005 10:00

Holy crap Blaze. I think..... I think .... we AGREE on something!

If LL isn't going to put the smackdown on pete for this...then the green light has been given. Thanks for the code blaze.

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Merwan Marker

Booring...

Join date: 28 Jan 2004

Posts: 4,706

Pop On!

03-13-2005 10:29

From: Aimee Weber

Holy crap Blaze. I think..... I think .... we AGREE on something!
If LL isn't going to put the smackdown on pete for this...then the green light has been given. Thanks for the code blaze.

This should be interesting, far outweiging drama and for once I'm actually gonna get the pop-corn a'popin!

Blaze can I have a case sent to you?

LoL

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Devlin Gallant

Thought Police

Join date: 18 Jun 2003

Posts: 5,948

03-15-2005 15:04

Blaze should be against the TOS.

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I LIKE children, I've just never been able to finish a whole one.

And I thought public land scanners were against the TOS
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	03-13-2005 02:15 Since obviously they are not, I think I'm going to go write me one! If you see a "thanx pete" object in the sky, please ignore. It's just my way of thanking the guy who paved the way for us.. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Weedy Herbst Too many parameters Join date: 5 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,255	03-13-2005 04:45 From: blaze Spinnaker Since obviously they are not, I think I'm going to go write me one! If you see a "thanx pete" object in the sky, please ignore. It's just my way of thanking the guy who paved the way for us.. The jury is still out on this one blaze. The Lindens have not expressed a final verdict as of yet, but I get a feeling they will arrive to alot more abuse reports on Monday. They don't always work as fast as we would like, but they are addressing it. The problem didnt spring up yesterday though, so it seems a case of the squeeky wheel. _____________________
Tcoz Bach Tyrell Victim Join date: 10 Dec 2002 Posts: 973	03-13-2005 09:01 Actually, after a report of objects that were scanning Tringo land months back, Linden said that this is perfectly legal. Land scanning is in no way a TOS violation. An object passing over your property is also legal. Far as I can tell the only jury that is still out on this one is the Forums one. This has been going on for months. And, as that Linden said, the guy doing it is a "a good guy, and not doing anything malicious". So, feel free blaze! In fact I posted the same thing before reading this post. We can start a market and compete! Let's tell people exactly how they can use this information as well so it's not just for fun...everybody can profit! Hooray public info! Hooray TOS! Anybody cries about it, wave the TOS in their face, tell 'em to cry to a Linden, ban them from your land and put them on ignore. Can't beat 'em, join 'em. Hey, a ways back, I started a thread on this for the very same reason. Interestingly, the community didn't have a problem with it then. _____________________ ...you want to do WHAT with that cube?
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	03-13-2005 09:49 here's my pseudo code (rough draft), let me know if you think there are any problems with this. this should contain everything.. should have a copy of itself called "Child" in its inventory. <ok well maybe we should wait until Robin does her due dilligence before teaching everyone how to take down the grid..> _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Aimee Weber The one on the right Join date: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 4,286	03-13-2005 10:00 Holy crap Blaze. I think..... I think .... we AGREE on something! If LL isn't going to put the smackdown on pete for this...then the green light has been given. Thanks for the code blaze. _____________________
Merwan Marker Booring... Join date: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 4,706	Pop On! 03-13-2005 10:29 From: Aimee Weber Holy crap Blaze. I think..... I think .... we AGREE on something! If LL isn't going to put the smackdown on pete for this...then the green light has been given. Thanks for the code blaze. This should be interesting, far outweiging drama and for once I'm actually gonna get the pop-corn a'popin! Blaze can I have a case sent to you? LoL _____________________ Don't Worry, Be Happy - Meher Baba
Devlin Gallant Thought Police Join date: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 5,948	03-15-2005 15:04 Blaze should be against the TOS. _____________________ I LIKE children, I've just never been able to finish a whole one.

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