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Cyanide Leviathan
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03-18-2005 16:59
St Patrick killed all the Pagans, Hitler attempted to kill all the Jews. We mourn the killing of the Jews, Celebrate the killing of the Pagans; discuss
Taco Rubio
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03-18-2005 17:04
Pagan Pie.
Nolan Nash
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03-18-2005 17:08
From: Taco Rubio
Pegan Pie.

Pagan pie

:o
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03-18-2005 17:09
fixed! I was rushing to get that in 1st
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03-18-2005 18:45
From: Cyanide Leviathan
St Patrick killed all the Pagans, Hitler attempted to kill all the Jews. We mourn the killing of the Jews, Celebrate the killing of the Pagans; discuss

Easy. Hitler lost.
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Olympia Rebus
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03-18-2005 20:02
From: Cyanide Leviathan
St Patrick killed all the Pagans, Hitler attempted to kill all the Jews. We mourn the killing of the Jews, Celebrate the killing of the Pagans; discuss


To be fair, I doubt most people getting bombed on green beer each year are celebrating the fact that Pagans got killed. I suspect many nationalities have, at one time or another, treated another group of people badly. Not that this makes it ok (nor should it be forgotten), but past misdeeds aren't nescessarily the cause for celebration. For example, I doubt most Americans celebtating Independence Day are celebrating (or proud of) the fact that we/they killed Indians.


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Easy. Hitler lost.

That too...
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Nolan Nash
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03-18-2005 20:30
"It has long been recounted that, during his mission in Ireland, St. Patrick once stood on a hilltop (which is now called Croagh Patrick), and with only a wooden staff by his side, banished all the snakes from Ireland. In fact, the island nation was never home to any snakes. The "banishing of the snakes" was really a metaphor for the eradication of pagan ideology from Ireland and the triumph of Christianity. Within two hundred years of Patrick's arrival, Ireland was completely Christianized."

" Pagan - a heathen: an unconverted member of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of the Bible.

Prior to St. Patrick’s arrival in Ireland to build a Christian Church, his mission was foretold by pagan wizards. There was a fierce heathen king named Logaire who reigned in the Irish capital of Tara. He called upon his two favorite wizards to look into the future with their black arts and this is what they foresaw:

…there would come to be a certain foreign practice, like a kingdom, with some strange and troublesome doctrine; a practice brought from afar across the seas, proclaimed by a few, adopted by many and respected by all; it would overthrow kingdoms, kill kings who resisted, win over great crowds, destroy their gods, and after driving out all the resources of their art it would reign for ever and ever.

These words were indeed prophetic, for St. Patrick wiped out the worship of idols and established the catholic faith in Christ throughout the country. The defining moment in St. Patrick’s mission came when he challenged King Logaire and his pagan followers on Easter, declaring that the power of their gods were no match for the power of the Christian God. This challenge also coincided with the pagans’ most important festival of the year. In a series of confrontations and contests over two days time, St. Patrick killed both of Logaire’s favorite wizards and reduced the king to a frightened, humiliated mortal.

It is ironic that the patron saint of Ireland, St. Patrick, was in fact a Roman Briton who had a vision that he was to go to Ireland to establish the Christian church. He believed in this mission so passionately that he left his family behind in Britain and forsook any opportunity for a personal life to achieve this goal. His exploits gave rise to the legend of him driving the snakes out of Ireland. This is likely to be a metaphor for the defeat of paganism, as serpent imagery is common in pagan religions and the use of that iconography would have died out with the fall of the heathens. St. Patrick devoted his life to converting the druids and his legacy is a Christian Ireland."


Sounds to me like GW and St. Pat would've gotten along well.
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Jsecure Hanks
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03-18-2005 20:32
To cut to the heart of it, few people celebrate St. Patrick, or the Irish, or know who St. Patrick is or what he stood for. People just see there is a day unofficially called 'drinking day' each year, and they go out and get wasted. And they are encouraged to by drink companies and pubs and the like, cause it's all good money. It's the brewery equivalent of Mothers' day or something. A good opportunity to fleece the public.
Nolan Nash
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03-18-2005 20:46
";(St.) Patrick and his followers were invited to Tara by the King of Laoghaire. While he was there he plucked a shamrock from the ground and tried to explain the to the druids and the King that the shamrock had three leaves just like God had three personas - The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost. This was called the Trinity. Before the Christian era it was a sacred plant of the Druids of Ireland because its leaves formed a triad."

The King was very impressed by this, and it affected his opinion about St. Patrick greatly.

One might guess that Patrick knew that the druids held the Shamrock symbol sacred. At least I would.

This old saying seems to indicate toward that end:

“St. Patrick was a gentleman, who thru strategy and stealth
Drove all the snakes from Ireland, Here's a toasting his health
But not too many lest you lose yourself and then
You forget the good St. Patrick and see those snakes again.”


Was he a militant missionary? A politician?

What's the word for a militant political missionary? :P
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gene Poole
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03-18-2005 20:55
I only celebrate Snake-whacking Day.
Ghoti Nyak
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03-18-2005 22:12
From: someone
" Pagan - a heathen: an unconverted member of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of the Bible.


Heathen - one who lives on the heath.

Pagan = Pagani - country-dweller


-Ghoti
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03-18-2005 22:14
Jewish food is much better than Pagan food. The discussion can end now. Kthxbye :D
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Lance LeFay
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03-18-2005 23:27
Wow.

Cyanide told me ahead of time that he was going to post this.

I didn't think there would be any actual discussion.




You people are insane @_o
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Garoad Kuroda
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03-19-2005 13:09
Who cares! Pagans aren't people anyways! :D

(Hey that's a good one isn't it? hah)
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
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03-19-2005 13:19
From: Garoad Kuroda
Who cares! Pagans aren't people anyways! :D

(Hey that's a good one isn't it? hah)

You're right, St. patrick killed them all. Even the Finno-Ugric pagans apparently... So they are not people, they are corpses. Fetid innard corpses.

:p
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03-19-2005 13:32
From: Cyanide Leviathan
St Patrick killed all the Pagans, Hitler attempted to kill all the Jews. We mourn the killing of the Jews, Celebrate the killing of the Pagans; discuss


I'm not even going to dignify that utter bollocks with a reply.
Garoad Kuroda
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03-19-2005 13:43
From: Nolan Nash
You're right, St. patrick killed them all. Even the Finno-Ugric pagans apparently... So they are not people, they are corpses. Fetid innard corpses.

:p


As sick as this statement is, I found it somewhat humorous. :D
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Siggy Romulus
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03-19-2005 15:37
From: Cyanide Leviathan
St Patrick killed all the Pagans, Hitler attempted to kill all the Jews. We mourn the killing of the Jews, Celebrate the killing of the Pagans; discuss



Pagans revenge --- Santa Claus and Christmas....

Besides - just as Xmas is all about the gifts - St Paddy's is all about the beer, and just around the bend -- that day of the year I get to worship the egg and the bunny, everyones favorite fertility rite: Easter.....

Don't forget your moon phase buns!

Siggy.
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Olympia Rebus
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03-19-2005 16:32
From: Siggy Romulus
Pagans revenge --- Santa Claus and Christmas....

Besides - just as Xmas is all about the gifts - St Paddy's is all about the beer, and just around the bend -- that day of the year I get to worship the egg and the bunny, everyones favorite fertility rite: Easter.....

Don't forget your moon phase buns!

Siggy.


Yep. That's about it.

Not to knock modern times or culture, but it's cute how card, candy and misc crap makers have morphed every holiday into an excuse to buy stuff.
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03-19-2005 17:45
From: Olympia Rebus
Yep. That's about it.

Not to knock modern times or culture, but it's cute how card, candy and misc crap makers have morphed every holiday into an excuse to buy stuff.



Yuppers, I find it extremely ironic, seeing how most of the holidays were originally hijacked during the world domination of Christianity.... What goes around, comes around... They hijacked the pagans and now 'god money' hijacks them :)

Siggy.
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03-19-2005 18:29
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and just around the bend -- that day of the year I get to worship the egg and the bunny, everyones favorite fertility rite: Easter.....




-Ghoti
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