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Lordfly Digeridoo

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12-26-2003 10:52

I live right next to boardman, and I'm becoming mildly distressed at seeing a bunch of random buildings popping up in it. Pardon my ignorance, but aren't you only supposed to have the prefab housing supplied in the kiosk? Since when are people allowed to build whatever in Boardman?

I'm just wondering, is all... when i started back in july, I tried building there and was informed that I couldn't, only prefab housing was allowed. Has this changed?

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Astarte Valentino

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prefab homes in boardman and other theme/newbie areas

12-26-2003 12:00

I believe it is because of the current problem with the prefabs being over the prim limit or something like that...it was stated that this will be fixed on or around January 12th...Maybe I am incorrect but I think I read something about it somewhere

Gwydeon Nomad

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Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 480

12-26-2003 13:21

HAHAHAHAHHA The prefabs are over the prim limit for the space available for prefab homes. Hillarious!

Darwin Appleby

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Join date: 14 Mar 2003

Posts: 2,779

12-26-2003 13:30

HAHAAHAHA! Now THAT is irony!

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Jim Lupis

Fuzzy Taberite

Join date: 8 Jul 2003

Posts: 78

12-26-2003 15:14

While it's amusing, it's also quite frustrating to the poor folks who live there.

It may be the the lindens temporaily dropped the restrictions on what you could build, as a band-aid.

At least it looks like most people are keeping reasonable looking.

Tipsy Titan

Lagged into Submission

Join date: 7 Aug 2003

Posts: 231

12-26-2003 16:33

The restrictions of pre-fabs were supposedly dropped before 1.1

But people took it for granted... Its still suppose to be housing structures..

I think there is a purple store somewhere in there now..

"cheers"

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Lee Linden

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12-26-2003 18:37

My apologies...

Maintaining Boardman is part of my responsibilities. Unfortunately, I've been on vacation for the last week (and continue to be so until the 1st). However, I have access to Second Life tonight, so I'll be sure to go over Boardman and make sure guidelines are being followed.

Here (to my knowledge) is the current Boardman guidelines:

From: someone

Boardman
=====

Welcome to Boardman! Boardman is a controlled building community. A small suburbian area divided into cozy parcels, Boardman is the perfect place to build your home if you're looking for a nice, quiet region without the stores and looming towers you might find building elsewhere.

Here are some helpful guidelines to help maintain Boardman:

You may only buy and own one plot.
You must purchase the entire 24x24 square plot of land.
You need to be in Second Life for at least 3 days before buying land here.

Your build in Boardman MUST be a conventional home. This means that stores, danceclubs, sheep farms, and any other non-house builds are not permitted within Boardman. You may freely use the Mini-House-in-a-Box ? as your main building. This item is for sale at the supply stores located around the perimeter of this region. You can modify it, change textures, etc. You can add accessories like landscaping.

We encourage people who share interests or times when they are online to move in together. Before moving in you may want to chat up your potential neighbors. If they aren't around you may want to check the "I am.." note card dispenser at their plot or right click on an object they own, select Edit, select More, click on Profile. If your neighbors are around, then just right click on them and select Profile.

After you move in, make sure your own profile is filled out.You can also make a note card describing your own interests and place it in the "I am..." dispenser next to each plot.

**Note: the following zoning regulations will be enforced:
* No terraforming. The land stays the way it is.
* No buildings taller than 15 meters
* You must build within your own property lines.
* No objects for sale, except within the stalls in the center of the region.
* No signs permitted.
* Noisy or flashing textures, particles, excessive and/or looping sounds, or any script that puts unnecessary strain on the region will be removed.

This region is located within a PG-Rated territory. All applicable rules, laws and community standards apply.

Azmara Valkyrie

Junior Member

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 10

12-26-2003 19:38

Are the guide lines going to be the same in Brown as they are in Boardman. We also have the same sort of things happening there. What would be the advantage of sharing the plot with others since each one can only hold 106 prims no matter who may build them =(. This seems to also include any thing that was built by a Linden as well. My land in brown was counting the stall walls around it. Make no sense to me at all that a plot that can only contain 3 prims is counting the 7 prims to build the walls and it carried over to my " house " plot.

David Cartier

Registered User

Join date: 8 Jun 2003

Posts: 1,018

12-26-2003 20:16

That's nothing; the standard tents have too many prims for DeHaro and Green.

From: someone

Originally posted by Gwydeon Nomad
HAHAHAHAHHA The prefabs are over the prim limit for the space available for prefab homes. Hillarious!

Kex Godel

Master Slacker

Join date: 14 Nov 2003

Posts: 869

12-27-2003 08:33

Why do the stalls take *SEVEN* prims?

A three-walled square structure can be done with ONE hollowed-out 25% cut prim.

Darwin Appleby

I Was Beaten With Satan

Join date: 14 Mar 2003

Posts: 2,779

12-27-2003 10:58

Not the open-air stalls, Kex. We're talking about the (IMO useless and un-called for) campgrounds.

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Alondria LeFay

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Join date: 2 May 2003

Posts: 725

12-27-2003 11:05

I don't think LL has re-distributed their land's primes. I noticed in Kissling, where there is a huge amount of LL land, that if you look at the "about land" blip on Gov. Linden's land, he has like 8000 objects available. I am sure this is probably the same in other areas where there is a large amount of LL land.

Moopf Murray

Moopfmerising

Join date: 7 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,448

Hmmm...have I broken the rule un-wittingly?

01-08-2004 03:06

Hi,

I only came into SL yesterday and flew around to get some land. I purchased a 480m2 block in Boardman which, by my reckoning isn't the 24 x 24 size that it should be. Obviously, I haven't been in SL for 3 days either. This is going on the rules that Lee Linden posted.

So, can I expect to get turfed out? Should I sell up (mind you, surely then I'd be breaking the rules as it's not a 24 x 24 plot that I have)?

I'm confused as I didn't know that there were building regulations for the different areas (sims?). I had a lot of help from people about how to buy land, but nobody mentioned that there were certainly rules for different places, so any idea what I should do now? Oh and where can I find the building regs for all the different areas (I understand the PG/M thing, but didn't know it extended beyond that).

Moopf Murray

Moopfmerising

Join date: 7 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,448

01-08-2004 07:32

sorry to be a pain but has anybody got any definitive answers on what I should do in my current situation (see above post). I don't want to go building if I'm just going to have to move anyway.

Khamon Fate

fategardens.net

Join date: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 4,177

01-08-2004 07:45

boardman and brown have the restrictions that buildings must be house-like structures. the primitives can only be eight meters in length in any direction. no stores, casinos or such are allowed.

deharo and green are campgrounds. those lots can only hold tents and cabins.

all four sims allow an av to own one plot of land, however, that plot may be any size and shape now.

other restricted sims are: the vehicle sims which allow no building at all; luna (the new linden shopping complex); coney (the lindeworld amusement sim currently empty); and darkwood (a medieval rpg theme sim).

Moopf Murray

Moopfmerising

Join date: 7 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,448

01-08-2004 07:48

Hi, and thank you for your reply, that helps to remove the blur on what the current rules are. I'm curious about this part of what you said:

From: someone

the primitives can only be eight meters in length in any direction

Does this mean that in other areas without this restriction that primitives can be any length you like? I just presumed it was a limit in the designer.

Khamon Fate

fategardens.net

Join date: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 4,177

01-08-2004 07:51

prims are always limited to ten meter dimensions. that's an engine rule. feel free to help us lobby an increase there.

i believe the boardman & brown eight meter restriction keeps buildings from being too large to damage the "residential" atmosphere.

Moopf Murray

Moopfmerising

Join date: 7 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,448

01-08-2004 07:52

ok, thanks for clarifying that.

Azmara Valkyrie

Junior Member

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 10

01-08-2004 09:07

I didn't read anything that said that there was a limit of 8 meters on anything other then height and that has now been changed to 15 meters. But it still has to be a suburbian style house structure.

Khamon Fate

fategardens.net

Join date: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 4,177

01-08-2004 11:07

what azmara said. she's correct.

What's with boardman?
Lordfly Digeridoo Prim Orchestrator Join date: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 3,628	12-26-2003 10:52 I live right next to boardman, and I'm becoming mildly distressed at seeing a bunch of random buildings popping up in it. Pardon my ignorance, but aren't you only supposed to have the prefab housing supplied in the kiosk? Since when are people allowed to build whatever in Boardman? I'm just wondering, is all... when i started back in july, I tried building there and was informed that I couldn't, only prefab housing was allowed. Has this changed? LF _____________________ ---- http://www.lordfly.com/ http://www.twitter.com/lordfly http://www.plurk.com/lordfly
Astarte Valentino Junior Member Join date: 7 Dec 2003 Posts: 18	prefab homes in boardman and other theme/newbie areas 12-26-2003 12:00 I believe it is because of the current problem with the prefabs being over the prim limit or something like that...it was stated that this will be fixed on or around January 12th...Maybe I am incorrect but I think I read something about it somewhere
Gwydeon Nomad Registered User Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 480	12-26-2003 13:21 HAHAHAHAHHA The prefabs are over the prim limit for the space available for prefab homes. Hillarious!
Darwin Appleby I Was Beaten With Satan Join date: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 2,779	12-26-2003 13:30 HAHAAHAHA! Now THAT is irony! _____________________ Touche.
Jim Lupis Fuzzy Taberite Join date: 8 Jul 2003 Posts: 78	12-26-2003 15:14 While it's amusing, it's also quite frustrating to the poor folks who live there. It may be the the lindens temporaily dropped the restrictions on what you could build, as a band-aid. At least it looks like most people are keeping reasonable looking.
Tipsy Titan Lagged into Submission Join date: 7 Aug 2003 Posts: 231	12-26-2003 16:33 The restrictions of pre-fabs were supposedly dropped before 1.1 But people took it for granted... Its still suppose to be housing structures.. I think there is a purple store somewhere in there now.. "cheers" _____________________
Lee Linden llBuildMonkey(); Join date: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 743	12-26-2003 18:37 My apologies... Maintaining Boardman is part of my responsibilities. Unfortunately, I've been on vacation for the last week (and continue to be so until the 1st). However, I have access to Second Life tonight, so I'll be sure to go over Boardman and make sure guidelines are being followed. Here (to my knowledge) is the current Boardman guidelines: From: someone Boardman ===== Welcome to Boardman! Boardman is a controlled building community. A small suburbian area divided into cozy parcels, Boardman is the perfect place to build your home if you're looking for a nice, quiet region without the stores and looming towers you might find building elsewhere. Here are some helpful guidelines to help maintain Boardman: You may only buy and own one plot. You must purchase the entire 24x24 square plot of land. You need to be in Second Life for at least 3 days before buying land here. Your build in Boardman MUST be a conventional home. This means that stores, danceclubs, sheep farms, and any other non-house builds are not permitted within Boardman. You may freely use the Mini-House-in-a-Box ? as your main building. This item is for sale at the supply stores located around the perimeter of this region. You can modify it, change textures, etc. You can add accessories like landscaping. We encourage people who share interests or times when they are online to move in together. Before moving in you may want to chat up your potential neighbors. If they aren't around you may want to check the "I am.." note card dispenser at their plot or right click on an object they own, select Edit, select More, click on Profile. If your neighbors are around, then just right click on them and select Profile. After you move in, make sure your own profile is filled out.You can also make a note card describing your own interests and place it in the "I am..." dispenser next to each plot. *Note: the following zoning regulations will be enforced: No terraforming. The land stays the way it is. * No buildings taller than 15 meters * You must build within your own property lines. * No objects for sale, except within the stalls in the center of the region. * No signs permitted. * Noisy or flashing textures, particles, excessive and/or looping sounds, or any script that puts unnecessary strain on the region will be removed. This region is located within a PG-Rated territory. All applicable rules, laws and community standards apply.
Azmara Valkyrie Junior Member Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 10	12-26-2003 19:38 Are the guide lines going to be the same in Brown as they are in Boardman. We also have the same sort of things happening there. What would be the advantage of sharing the plot with others since each one can only hold 106 prims no matter who may build them =(. This seems to also include any thing that was built by a Linden as well. My land in brown was counting the stall walls around it. Make no sense to me at all that a plot that can only contain 3 prims is counting the 7 prims to build the walls and it carried over to my " house " plot.
David Cartier Registered User Join date: 8 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,018	12-26-2003 20:16 That's nothing; the standard tents have too many prims for DeHaro and Green. From: someone Originally posted by Gwydeon Nomad HAHAHAHAHHA The prefabs are over the prim limit for the space available for prefab homes. Hillarious!
Kex Godel Master Slacker Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 869	12-27-2003 08:33 Why do the stalls take SEVEN prims? A three-walled square structure can be done with ONE hollowed-out 25% cut prim.
Darwin Appleby I Was Beaten With Satan Join date: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 2,779	12-27-2003 10:58 Not the open-air stalls, Kex. We're talking about the (IMO useless and un-called for) campgrounds. _____________________ Touche.
Alondria LeFay Registered User Join date: 2 May 2003 Posts: 725	12-27-2003 11:05 I don't think LL has re-distributed their land's primes. I noticed in Kissling, where there is a huge amount of LL land, that if you look at the "about land" blip on Gov. Linden's land, he has like 8000 objects available. I am sure this is probably the same in other areas where there is a large amount of LL land.
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	Hmmm...have I broken the rule un-wittingly? 01-08-2004 03:06 Hi, I only came into SL yesterday and flew around to get some land. I purchased a 480m2 block in Boardman which, by my reckoning isn't the 24 x 24 size that it should be. Obviously, I haven't been in SL for 3 days either. This is going on the rules that Lee Linden posted. So, can I expect to get turfed out? Should I sell up (mind you, surely then I'd be breaking the rules as it's not a 24 x 24 plot that I have)? I'm confused as I didn't know that there were building regulations for the different areas (sims?). I had a lot of help from people about how to buy land, but nobody mentioned that there were certainly rules for different places, so any idea what I should do now? Oh and where can I find the building regs for all the different areas (I understand the PG/M thing, but didn't know it extended beyond that).
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	01-08-2004 07:32 sorry to be a pain but has anybody got any definitive answers on what I should do in my current situation (see above post). I don't want to go building if I'm just going to have to move anyway.
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	01-08-2004 07:45 boardman and brown have the restrictions that buildings must be house-like structures. the primitives can only be eight meters in length in any direction. no stores, casinos or such are allowed. deharo and green are campgrounds. those lots can only hold tents and cabins. all four sims allow an av to own one plot of land, however, that plot may be any size and shape now. other restricted sims are: the vehicle sims which allow no building at all; luna (the new linden shopping complex); coney (the lindeworld amusement sim currently empty); and darkwood (a medieval rpg theme sim).
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	01-08-2004 07:48 Hi, and thank you for your reply, that helps to remove the blur on what the current rules are. I'm curious about this part of what you said: From: someone the primitives can only be eight meters in length in any direction Does this mean that in other areas without this restriction that primitives can be any length you like? I just presumed it was a limit in the designer.
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	01-08-2004 07:51 prims are always limited to ten meter dimensions. that's an engine rule. feel free to help us lobby an increase there. i believe the boardman & brown eight meter restriction keeps buildings from being too large to damage the "residential" atmosphere.
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	01-08-2004 07:52 ok, thanks for clarifying that.
Azmara Valkyrie Junior Member Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 10	01-08-2004 09:07 I didn't read anything that said that there was a limit of 8 meters on anything other then height and that has now been changed to 15 meters. But it still has to be a suburbian style house structure.
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	01-08-2004 11:07 what azmara said. she's correct.

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