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Sparkle Skye

Second Life Resident

Join date: 27 Oct 2004

Posts: 1,016

01-11-2005 18:14

I dont see a problem with having a page with advertising space as long as it is done in a way that it is equitable for everyone. I would hate to see the same merchants week after week just becase they have the most money. I dont not like that its being done in ebay and would not be interested in it for that reason.

That being said, I dont see why they can not just add a page for this under tabs instead of replacing top pics.

Perhaps the method for selecting top pics may need revamping but I think it is a good way to find places that have something of interest to offer, not just a product someone wants to sell me.

Lance LeFay

is a Thug

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 1,488

01-11-2005 18:18

Sparkle, I wouldn't mind seeing a couple more periods :\

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Kats Kothari

Disturbingly Cute

Join date: 14 Aug 2003

Posts: 556

01-11-2005 20:35

From: Sparkle Skye

I dont see a problem with having a page with advertising space as long as it is done in a way that it is equitable for everyone. I would hate to see the same merchants week after week just becase they have the most money. I dont not like that its being done in ebay and would not be interested in it for that reason.

That being said, I dont see why they can not just add a page for this under tabs instead of replacing top pics.

Perhaps the method for selecting top pics may need revamping but I think it is a good way to find places that have something of interest to offer, not just a product someone wants to sell me.

How long until the auction "winners" start reselling the ad spots to make money? It happened with land, so it could happen with this.

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Tread Whiplash

Crazy Crafter

Join date: 25 Dec 2004

Posts: 291

Not gonna happen.

01-11-2005 20:40

Kats -

I guess the thread is on Page 2 or 3 now - but this was discussed last night. They can avoid that mess if they simply require you to submit your SL account name upon winning the auction. After that, the spots should be non-transferrable and only applied to objects / lands the winning bidder is the owner of, according to the servers.

Take care,

--Noel "HB" Wade
(Tread Whiplash)

Kats Kothari

Disturbingly Cute

Join date: 14 Aug 2003

Posts: 556

01-11-2005 20:45

From: Tread Whiplash

Kats -

I guess the thread is on Page 2 or 3 now - but this was discussed last night. They can avoid that mess if they simply require you to submit your SL account name upon winning the auction. After that, the spots should be non-transferrable and only applied to objects / lands the winning bidder is the owner of, according to the servers.

Take care,

--Noel "HB" Wade
(Tread Whiplash)

Ah, and you think that will stop people from reselling the spot on ebay or any other means? People have been selling their accounts, so it wouldn't be that hard to resell the spot: the person could always win the auction then resell the spot and place the other players ad instead of their own.

I think I should stop giving people ideas or they will do this too.

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Tread Whiplash

Crazy Crafter

Join date: 25 Dec 2004

Posts: 291

Violates Terms of Service.

01-11-2005 20:48

Kats -

Wow, that's a LOT of effort - I mean, transferring an ENTIRE account and all of its possessions, just for an ad in the "Find" dialog? Seems a bit extreme, if you ask me.

Oh, and I'd like to point out that, as has been discussed before, selling / transferring accounts violates the Terms Of Service - so if people do this, report them and I'd bet good money (US$) that LL bans the account quite quickly!

Its good that you're skeptical - but I really see the potential for exploitation to be smaller than most other things.

Take care,

--Noel "HB" Wade
(Tread Whiplash)

Kats Kothari

Disturbingly Cute

Join date: 14 Aug 2003

Posts: 556

01-11-2005 20:54

From: Tread Whiplash

Kats -

Wow, that's a LOT of effort - I mean, transferring an ENTIRE account and all of its possessions, just for an ad in the "Find" dialog? Seems a bit extreme, if you ask me.

Oh, and I'd like to point out that, as has been discussed before, selling / transferring accounts violates the Terms Of Service - so if people do this, report them and I'd bet good money (US$) that LL bans the account quite quickly!

Its good that you're skeptical - but I really see the potential for exploitation to be smaller than most other things.

Take care,

--Noel "HB" Wade
(Tread Whiplash)

Just to clarify, what I meant was that the auction "winner" could place the ad of someone else's event, store, etc. (e.g. I "win" the auction and place and ad of Francis' Seburo).

P.S. This is just an example of what could happen, since there are many players that would try to exploit this, the same way that players have exploited textures, accounts and items.

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"The cat is cryptic, and close to strange things which men cannot see..."
- H.P. Lovecraft

Tread Whiplash

Crazy Crafter

Join date: 25 Dec 2004

Posts: 291

Right, but...

01-11-2005 20:58

What I am saying is that the winning bidder should ONLY be allowed to submit an ad for something THEY OWN, or an event on THEIR property. This, plus making it non-transferrable, neutralizes most (if not all) of the potential exploits.

Take care,

--Noel "HB" Wade
(Tread Whiplash)

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Sparkle Skye Second Life Resident Join date: 27 Oct 2004 Posts: 1,016	01-11-2005 18:14 I dont see a problem with having a page with advertising space as long as it is done in a way that it is equitable for everyone. I would hate to see the same merchants week after week just becase they have the most money. I dont not like that its being done in ebay and would not be interested in it for that reason. That being said, I dont see why they can not just add a page for this under tabs instead of replacing top pics. Perhaps the method for selecting top pics may need revamping but I think it is a good way to find places that have something of interest to offer, not just a product someone wants to sell me.
Lance LeFay is a Thug Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 1,488	01-11-2005 18:18 Sparkle, I wouldn't mind seeing a couple more periods :\ _____________________ "Hoochie Hair is high on my list" - Andrew Linden "Adorable is 'they pay me to say you are cute'" -Barnesworth Anubis
Kats Kothari Disturbingly Cute Join date: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 556	01-11-2005 20:35 From: Sparkle Skye I dont see a problem with having a page with advertising space as long as it is done in a way that it is equitable for everyone. I would hate to see the same merchants week after week just becase they have the most money. I dont not like that its being done in ebay and would not be interested in it for that reason. That being said, I dont see why they can not just add a page for this under tabs instead of replacing top pics. Perhaps the method for selecting top pics may need revamping but I think it is a good way to find places that have something of interest to offer, not just a product someone wants to sell me. How long until the auction "winners" start reselling the ad spots to make money? It happened with land, so it could happen with this. _____________________ Maker of many kawaii items: Dolls, huggable plushies, and purses with cute critters. Visit Kats' Kreatures for a better look and feel free to explore! =^_^= Kats' Kreatures Gualala (140,9) "The cat is cryptic, and close to strange things which men cannot see..." - H.P. Lovecraft
Tread Whiplash Crazy Crafter Join date: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 291	Not gonna happen. 01-11-2005 20:40 Kats - I guess the thread is on Page 2 or 3 now - but this was discussed last night. They can avoid that mess if they simply require you to submit your SL account name upon winning the auction. After that, the spots should be non-transferrable and only applied to objects / lands the winning bidder is the owner of, according to the servers. Take care, --Noel "HB" Wade (Tread Whiplash)
Kats Kothari Disturbingly Cute Join date: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 556	01-11-2005 20:45 From: Tread Whiplash Kats - I guess the thread is on Page 2 or 3 now - but this was discussed last night. They can avoid that mess if they simply require you to submit your SL account name upon winning the auction. After that, the spots should be non-transferrable and only applied to objects / lands the winning bidder is the owner of, according to the servers. Take care, --Noel "HB" Wade (Tread Whiplash) Ah, and you think that will stop people from reselling the spot on ebay or any other means? People have been selling their accounts, so it wouldn't be that hard to resell the spot: the person could always win the auction then resell the spot and place the other players ad instead of their own. I think I should stop giving people ideas or they will do this too. _____________________ Maker of many kawaii items: Dolls, huggable plushies, and purses with cute critters. Visit Kats' Kreatures for a better look and feel free to explore! =^_^= Kats' Kreatures Gualala (140,9) "The cat is cryptic, and close to strange things which men cannot see..." - H.P. Lovecraft
Tread Whiplash Crazy Crafter Join date: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 291	Violates Terms of Service. 01-11-2005 20:48 Kats - Wow, that's a LOT of effort - I mean, transferring an ENTIRE account and all of its possessions, just for an ad in the "Find" dialog? Seems a bit extreme, if you ask me. Oh, and I'd like to point out that, as has been discussed before, selling / transferring accounts violates the Terms Of Service - so if people do this, report them and I'd bet good money (US$) that LL bans the account quite quickly! Its good that you're skeptical - but I really see the potential for exploitation to be smaller than most other things. Take care, --Noel "HB" Wade (Tread Whiplash)
Kats Kothari Disturbingly Cute Join date: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 556	01-11-2005 20:54 From: Tread Whiplash Kats - Wow, that's a LOT of effort - I mean, transferring an ENTIRE account and all of its possessions, just for an ad in the "Find" dialog? Seems a bit extreme, if you ask me. Oh, and I'd like to point out that, as has been discussed before, selling / transferring accounts violates the Terms Of Service - so if people do this, report them and I'd bet good money (US$) that LL bans the account quite quickly! Its good that you're skeptical - but I really see the potential for exploitation to be smaller than most other things. Take care, --Noel "HB" Wade (Tread Whiplash) Just to clarify, what I meant was that the auction "winner" could place the ad of someone else's event, store, etc. (e.g. I "win" the auction and place and ad of Francis' Seburo). P.S. This is just an example of what could happen, since there are many players that would try to exploit this, the same way that players have exploited textures, accounts and items. _____________________ Maker of many kawaii items: Dolls, huggable plushies, and purses with cute critters. Visit Kats' Kreatures for a better look and feel free to explore! =^_^= Kats' Kreatures Gualala (140,9) "The cat is cryptic, and close to strange things which men cannot see..." - H.P. Lovecraft
Tread Whiplash Crazy Crafter Join date: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 291	Right, but... 01-11-2005 20:58 What I am saying is that the winning bidder should ONLY be allowed to submit an ad for something THEY OWN, or an event on THEIR property. This, plus making it non-transferrable, neutralizes most (if not all) of the potential exploits. Take care, --Noel "HB" Wade (Tread Whiplash)

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