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Breaking the cycle of violence

Joy Honey
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08-08-2006 22:08
I just read this, thought I'd share it

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The people of the Middle East deserve peace and justice, and we owe them our support.

By Jimmy Carter
08/08/06 "The Guardian" -- -- The Middle East is a tinderbox, with some key players on all sides waiting for every opportunity to destroy their enemies with bullets, bombs and missiles. One of the special vulnerabilities of Israel, and a repetitive cause of violence, is the holding of prisoners. Militant Palestinians and Lebanese know that a captured Israeli soldier or civilian is either a cause of conflict or a valuable bargaining chip for prisoner exchange. This assumption is based on a number of such trades, including 1,150 Arabs, mostly Palestinians, for three Israelis in 1985; 123 Lebanese for the remains of two Israeli soldiers in 1996; and 433 Palestinians and others for an Israeli businessman and the bodies of three soldiers in 2004.

This stratagem precipitated the renewed violence that erupted in June when Palestinians dug a tunnel under the barrier that surrounds Gaza and assaulted some Israeli soldiers, killing two and capturing one. They offered to exchange the soldier for the release of 95 women and 313 children who are among almost 10,000 Arabs in Israeli prisons, but this time Israel rejected a swap and attacked Gaza in an attempt to free the soldier and stop rocket fire into Israel. The resulting destruction brought reconciliation between warring Palestinian factions and support for them throughout the Arab world.

Hizbullah militants in south Lebanon then killed three Israeli soldiers and captured two others, and insisted on Israel's withdrawal from disputed territory and an exchange for some of the several thousand incarcerated Lebanese. With American backing, Israeli bombs and missiles rained down on Lebanon. Soon, Hizbullah rockets supplied by Syria and Iran were striking northern Israel.

It is inarguable that Israel has a right to defend itself against attacks on its citizens, but it is inhumane and counterproductive to punish civilian populations in the illogical hope that somehow they will blame Hamas and Hizbullah for provoking the devastating response. The result instead has been that broad Arab and worldwide support has been rallied for these groups, while condemnation of both Israel and the United States has intensified.

Israel belatedly announced, but did not carry out, a two-day cessation in bombing Lebanon, responding to the global condemnation of an air attack on the Lebanese village of Qana, where 57 civilians were killed and where 106 died from the same cause 10 years ago. As before there were expressions of "deep regret," a promise of "immediate investigation" and the explanation that dropped leaflets had warned families in the region to leave their homes.

The urgent need in Lebanon is that Israeli attacks stop, that Lebanon's regular military forces control the southern region of the country, that Hizbullah cease as a separate fighting force, and future attacks against Israel be prevented. Israel should withdraw from all Lebanese territory, including Shebaa Farms, and release the Lebanese prisoners. Yet Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has rejected such a cease-fire.

These are ambitious hopes, but even if the UN Security Council adopts and implements a resolution that would lead to such an eventual solution, it will provide just another band-aid and temporary relief. Tragically, the current conflict is part of the inevitably repetitive cycle of violence that results from the absence of a comprehensive settlement in the Middle East, exacerbated by the almost unprecedented six-year absence of any real effort to achieve such a goal.

Leaders on both sides ignore strong majorities that crave peace, allowing extremist-led violence to preempt all opportunities for building a political consensus. Traumatized Israelis cling to the false hope that their lives will be made safer by incremental unilateral withdrawals from occupied areas, while Palestinians see their remnant territories reduced to little more than human dumping grounds surrounded by a provocative "security barrier" that embarrasses Israel's friends and fails to bring safety or stability.

The general parameters of a long-term, two-state agreement are well known.

There will be no substantive and permanent peace for any peoples in this troubled region as long as Israel is violating key UN resolutions, official American policy and the international "road map" for peace by occupying Arab lands and oppressing the Palestinians. Except for mutually agreeable negotiated modifications, Israel's official pre-1967 borders must be honored. As were all previous administrations since the founding of Israel, US government leaders must be in the forefront of achieving this long-delayed goal.

A major impediment to progress is the US administration's strange policy that dialogue on controversial issues will be extended only as a reward for subservient behavior and will be withheld from those who reject US assertions. Direct engagement with the Palestine Liberation Organization or the Palestinian Authority and the government in Damascus will be necessary if secure negotiated settlements are to be achieved. Failure to address the issues and leaders involved risks the creation of an arc of even greater instability running from Jerusalem through Beirut, Damascus, Baghdad and Tehran.

The people of the Middle East deserve peace and justice, and we in the international community owe them our strong leadership and support.

© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2006


http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jimmy_carter/2006/08/jimmy_carter.html
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Einsman Schlegel
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08-08-2006 22:23
There won't be an everlasting peace in the region. It's simply a pipedream.
Vares Solvang
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08-08-2006 22:32
From: Einsman Schlegel
There won't be an everlasting peace in the region. It's simply a pipedream.



I wouldn't go so far as to say it's impossible, but I would say that it won't happen in our lifetime. Or even that of our children really.

But I do think that one day it's at least possible, if we survive long enough that is.

Ok, I admit that I am proselytizing a bit here, but the problem here is extremism. If people would listen to the Buddha and realize that balance is the key to happiness, all of the problems in the middle east would go away.

It really is possible to have different beliefs than another person and still live in peace with them.

All right, the soap box is put away and I apologize if I seem like I am forcing my belief system on you all, that wasn't my intention.
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Fmeh Tagore
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08-08-2006 22:47
I think just about the only way there will be peace in the region is if one side or the other gets completely blown up with a nuclear bomb. I'm not saying that a nuclear bomb would be a good thing and I don't like the idea of it at all, but unless there's some sort of new weapon that can modify people's brains in an area the size of a country, one side or the other will have to be completely wiped off the face of the planet.

There is another possibility--if one side or the other start to do things that truly represent what Hitler did to the Jews and the rest of the world sees it for what it is, the shame itself from what they're doing may be able to eventually make for a peaceful situation, but I don't think it will get that way--I think it will be both sides continuing to escalate, one side using using tactics that come from people who have a lot of money, and the other side using tactics that come from people who have very little money.

Another option that still involves a nuclear bomb could be if an unrelated country drops a nuclear bomb right in the center between the conflicting countries. It would be a quick wake-up call for both sides.
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Uma Bauhaus
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08-08-2006 23:03
From: Fmeh Tagore
Another option that still involves a nuclear bomb could be if an unrelated country drops a nuclear bomb right in the center between the conflicting countries. It would be a quick wake-up call for both sides.
I don't know if it's been mentioned but we're only discussing options that aren't insane.
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Fmeh Tagore
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08-08-2006 23:04
From: Uma Bauhaus
I don't know if it's been mentioned but we're only discussing options that aren't insane.

Well, then I don't think the fighting will ever stop. I did say that I don't support the methods I mentioned.

I think the best option would be to leave the countries alone and let them fight their own wars.
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Phedre Aquitaine
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08-09-2006 03:14
The Middle East is a source of frustration for me, a snake eating it's own tail.

I dislike, intensely, self-perpetuating cycles of violence.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go get spanked.
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08-09-2006 04:23
From: Phedre Aquitaine
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go get spanked.

I'll be there in a minute

Now, the best way to stop this violence would be to just make me King of Earth.

I also have another plan since not many want me as their King.
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Vares Solvang
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08-09-2006 17:29
From: Phedre Aquitaine
... a snake eating it's own tail.

I dislike, intensely, self-perpetuating cycles of violence....




A very good analogy Phendre. The really sad part is that there doesn't seem to be a way to get it's tail out of it's mouth.
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08-09-2006 17:54
Our only hope is if we're invaded by aliens in time and they take care of our nastiness for us.
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08-09-2006 18:07
From: Einsman Schlegel
Our only hope is if we're invaded by aliens in time and they take care of our nastiness for us.



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