Update from the Dover Intelligent Design Trial (hilarious)

A telling moment came when he was asked about how the Dover Area High School had acquired 60 copies of the book "Of Pandas and People," a brilliantly dumb book that promotes the idea of intelligent design.

In a deposition given in January, he said he didn't know how the district got the books. He said he didn't know who donated the books. He said he didn't ask because he didn't want to know. He said he didn't know who donated the money to buy the books.

So, during his testimony Thursday, Steve Harvey, one of the lawyers for the plaintiffs, asked Buckingham about the books and how the money was raised to buy them. He specifically asked Buckingham whether he raised the money at his church.

He said he hadn't.

Then, he said he had.

Then, he said he hadn't.

He said he stood before the congregation one Sunday morning and said "there was a need" for money to buy "Of Pandas and People" and if anyone wanted to give, they could.

"But I didn't ask anyone for money," he said.

Harvey asked him whether he took up a collection at his church, Harmony Grove Community Church.

"Not as such," Buckingham said.

So the lawyer asked him whether he got in front of the congregation and asked for donations.

"I didn't," Buckingham said.

He paused.

"I'm sorry, I did say that, but there was more to it," he said.

Anyway, he collected the money — wherever it came from — and then he wrote a check for $850 to Donald Bonsell, father of then-school board President Alan Bonsell.

But previously, when asked by the lawyer about who donated the books, he said he didn't know.

"Mr. Buckingham, you lied to me at your deposition ... isn't that true?" Harvey asked.

"How so?" Buckingham responded.

It went on for a while before Judge John E. Jones III told Harvey to move on.

"You made your point very effectively," the judge said.


more: http://ydr.com/story/doverbiology/92062/

Heather Geesey, a Dover Area School Board member, said she came to believe intelligent design was a scientific theory based on the recommendations of Alan Bonsell and William Buckingham — both members of the board's curriculum committee. "They said it was a scientific thing," said Geesey, who added that "it wasn't my job" to learn more about intelligent design because she didn't serve on the curriculum committee.


more: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9853328/

Good grief we're doomed. If they can't convince us logically they'll sneak it in the back door.

Has anyone heard of 'Intelligent Falling'?

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512


Good old religious fanatics, where would we be without them?

Good grief we're doomed. If they can't convince us logically they'll sneak it in the back door.

Has anyone heard of 'Intelligent Falling'?

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512

On the tape, which you can see at http://www.ydr.com/mmedia/multi/528, Buckingham, wearing the same lapel pin he wore in court Thursday, said he wanted to balance evolution in the classroom with something else, "such as creationism."

Oops.

He said that the reporter "ambushed" him and that he was "like a deer in the headlights of a car" and that the newspapers were all reporting that he and the board were talking about creationism and that he thought to himself, "Don't say creationism."

Double oops.

It was like he had a Homer Simpson moment. He was thinking "Don't say creationism. Don't say creationism. Don't say creationism." And then he opens his yap and says "creationism."

D'oh!

And to compound the prevarication, he said he was thinking about something the newspapers reported — something he didn't read or talk to anybody about.

It went on like that all day. He'd say he voted for buying a new biology book. Then, he said he voted against it. He said he thought intelligent design was a scientific theory. But he said he didn't know what intelligent design was. He said he wasn't the force behind the board adopting intelligent design and then, confronted with what he said, under oath, previously, he'd say maybe he was.

He said a lot of things, and then he'd say a lot of things that weren't exactly what he had said to begin with.

And then, he attributed his spotty, selective and just plain weird memory to his OxyContin addiction.

LOL - Just the sort of asshats that should be choosing our childrens text books.

haha, no kidding. That whole article was comedy gold. Actually, the whole trial so far has been.

It reminds me of debating Kevn in the forums.

~Ulrika~

Kisses and hugs

Are you jealous?

It's an attempt to exercise power over a female by using diminutive gender-specific labels in a response to his emasculation in the forums. Anecdotally, I find it is correlated with right-wing and religious individuals usually appearing after a sound defeat in the forums. Unfortunately, Kevn's brand of sexism also has a stalker/pedophile quality to it as well that's just creepy.

~Ulrika~