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The "mainstream media" is NOT liberal

Steve Mahfouz
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07-29-2006 23:02
Whoever started that meme way back when must be rich now. Perhaps (I say this because I'm only 47) at one time, the MSM could have been considered "liberal", as if this is a bad thing.

Now, all you liberal media haters, show me some genuinely liberal or progressive newspapers/radio stations/television stations/magazines that reach more than 1% of the population. You say the New York Times ? Hmm...they supported the Bush rush to war in Iraq. Washington Post ? You must be joking.

If you are an ultra-right wing neo-Nazi, then yes, the New York Times is the equivalent of Soviet-era Pravda. I invite the open minded to peruse the Internet and gather your news from overseas especially. Do this for one full month. Compare what you find on the internet to what you see on our MSM and read in our larger newspapers.

If you are honest and fair, you will not say the USA mainstream media is liberal. Moderate perhaps, but definitely not liberal. There are so many things that never make "the news" in this country in the MSM.

Oh yes, for those who think that liberal is akin to communism or socialism, you are wrong. If it weren't for liberals (and the Republicans who agreed and/or were too scared to vote against it), Social Security would be a dream. I guess liberals are horrible people, right ? I could go on and on, but please, let's start a NEW meme: the moderate to conservative media ! And I'm being charitable with that meme.
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Brucas Bardeen
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07-30-2006 00:13
I have an extremely hard time understanding why most of the major mainstream media(CNN, NBC, ABC, LA Times, NY Times) are not biased to the left.

Most people will usually say that you are on another planet.
Fmeh Tagore
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07-30-2006 00:31
Media is NOT conservative OR liberal. It represents wherever it thinks the money is.
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Steve Mahfouz
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Very true and...
07-30-2006 02:44
From: Fmeh Tagore
Media is NOT conservative OR liberal. It represents wherever it thinks the money is.


At this time, the big money tends to vote Republican. Also, the huge corporations that own large chunks of the MSM care not for the public interest, only that which makes a buck.
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Steve Mahfouz
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if I understand your post....
07-30-2006 02:47
From: Brucas Bardeen
I have an extremely hard time understanding why most of the major mainstream media(CNN, NBC, ABC, LA Times, NY Times) are not biased to the left.

Most people will usually say that you are on another planet.


then please go do that research, and then say that in a month. If you want liberal media, try the Guardian in the UK. The only major media that comes close to the Guardian is Air America Radio, which is still small by comparison with the others. Go read the news media posts on democraticunderground.com. I say again, only the ultra-right consider the MSM liberal, because they are soooo far to the right.
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Kiamat Dusk
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07-30-2006 02:48
Right, because George Soros is a Conservative and Ted Turner is a major Bush lover. Oh, and Memogate was just an honest mistake. :rolleyes:

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Steve Mahfouz
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Go do the research I suggest.
07-30-2006 02:52
From: Kiamat Dusk
Right, because George Soros is a Conservative and Ted Turner is a major Bush lover. Oh, and Memogate was just an honest mistake. :rolleyes:

-Kiamat Dusk



I'll listen to you in one month. Have fun :)
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Fmeh Tagore
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07-30-2006 03:23
When I say that media is about money, it doesn't really reflect which political party makes the most money, it all mainly has to do with product placement, marketing things to the people that can spend the most money on products (just look at the demographics for the commercials on news channels or major networks during news breaks)--they're basically kissing ass to anyone they think will spend more money on the products they advertise, and trying to pick advertisers that pay the most. I don't put this into a democrat/republican thing, there are plenty of people who make a lot of money that are democrats as well as republicans as well as some independents. They ALL try to make themselves look like they are "fair and balanced". In some cases, it might be shown that democrats are less of penny pinchers than republicans, so in those cases, they actually might cater to democrats more (ads for things that one can spend money on for things that are for the now), but then you have the shows where almost all the ads have to do with investing money, which republicans on average probably think about more--then again, I'm making stereotypes out of the parties which may be completely wrong in the longrun.
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Einsman Schlegel
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07-30-2006 08:04
That's not what Fox News says.

:rolleyes:
Kiamat Dusk
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07-30-2006 08:11
From: steve Mahfouz
I'll listen to you in one month. Have fun :)



The research has been done to death, steve. And I've done my homework. So here's a little light reading so you can catch up on what everyoe already knows.

"Biased" By Bernard Goldberg
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060520841/sr=1-1/qid=1154271783/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2398103-5919239?ie=UTF8&s=books

"Weapons of Mass Distortion" By L. Brent Bozell
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400053781/sr=1-1/qid=1154271840/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2398103-5919239?ie=UTF8&s=books

And then there's:
www.honestreporting.com
www.ratherbiased.com

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Aodhan McDunnough
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07-30-2006 08:34
From: Fmeh Tagore
Media is NOT conservative OR liberal. It represents wherever it thinks the money is.


THIS is correct.

Media does not put news because it's news. Media puts news because people want to read about it or see it.
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-30-2006 09:36
From: Kiamat Dusk
Right, because George Soros is a Conservative and Ted Turner is a major Bush lover. Oh, and Memogate was just an honest mistake. :rolleyes:

-Kiamat Dusk



George Soros and Ted Turner hardly make up the media majority, Kiamat.

And Memogate was an engineered sabotage by the right wing to get rid of one of the media's few remaining liberals.

The substance of Rather's report was accurate. The contents of the memo confirmed. Only the actual "memo" was faked. It was a re-typed version of the original. Rovian tactics to the letter. Do some research beyond your corporate shill news reports and learn some facts.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200409150007
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07-30-2006 12:24
"Liberal" and "conservative," blah blah blah. Meaningless terms, or perhaps terms that are way too specific in a foolish way.

The mainstream media is corporate. And as such, it will always serve its corporate masters first and everyone else as a distant afterthought.
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Steve Mahfouz
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and reading for you also :)
07-30-2006 12:43
From: Kiamat Dusk
The research has been done to death, steve. And I've done my homework. So here's a little light reading so you can catch up on what everyoe already knows.

"Biased" By Bernard Goldberg
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060520841/sr=1-1/qid=1154271783/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2398103-5919239?ie=UTF8&s=books

"Weapons of Mass Distortion" By L. Brent Bozell
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400053781/sr=1-1/qid=1154271840/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2398103-5919239?ie=UTF8&s=books

And then there's:
www.honestreporting.com
www.ratherbiased.com

-Kiamat Dusk



www.fair.org

www.mediamatters.org


http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/search_results?qstring=liberal+bias


http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-liberalmedia.htm

http://www.whatliberalmedia.com

and, I invite you to peruse www.democraticunderground.com, which is certainly a liberally-oriented website. They sure aren't dancing for joy over corporate media coverage. Ok, I'm done with this.
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