Guantanamo, 'Detainees', and Secret CIA camps
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Finning Widget
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09-06-2006 14:51
There's going to be a lot of hay made out of how the Bush Administration is recognising these 'detainees' under the Geneva Conventions. It's all bullshit.
From Forbes.Com: "The president said the 14 key terrorist leaders, including Mohammed, Binalshibh, and Zubaydah, who have been transferred to the U.S. military-run prison at Guantanamo Bay would be afforded some legal protections consistent with the Geneva Conventions."
Note, "SOME legal protections CONSISTENT with..." blah, blah, blah, real genuine authentic naugahyde, dozens of naugas were killed to bring you this quality product, preserved in real snake oil.
That ONE statement right THERE should be enough to get him IMPEACHED. Never mind VIOLATING the Geneva Conventions! Soverignity of nations! Covert ops!
And his administration is trying to get legislation pushed through that will RETROACTIVELY ABSOLVE anyone who committed a war crime from being prosecuted!
From Forbes.com : "Aides said the legislation being introduced on Bush's behalf later Wednesday on Capitol Hill insists on provisions covering military tribunals that would permit evidence to be withheld from a defendant if necessary to protect classified information.
As part of the package, Bush asked Congress to shield from prosecution or lawsuits federal personnel who handle terrorist suspects.
"Passing this legislation ought to be the top priority," Bush said."
See this? This is Bush, thumbing his nose at the RULE of LAW. All you NeoCons and Bush Apologists can shut /right/ up /right/ now.
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Monique Mistral
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09-06-2006 15:07
The only positive thing about the agenda of the Neocon-Zionist cabal is that it was never pushed by the American people. The United States has been hijacked and duped by these vile exploiters, their control over massmedia and their puppet on a string president.
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Richie Waves
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09-06-2006 20:07
Its to late, call me a pessimist but people just dont care.. as long as they have petrol in their SUV and food on the table for THEIR family they simply dont care..
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Chip Midnight
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09-07-2006 07:35
Bush is also trying to get legislation passed that would allow "evidence" that was obtained under duress (torture) to be used against them. I have to hand it to them. They look as though they're coming clean and changing their ways when in reality they're trying to legitamize the whole deal retroactively. Yeah, let's see... kidnap dissidents, torture them until they "confess," put them before a kangaroo court where they're not allowed to hear the evidence against them due to "national security" and then execute them. Welcome to the land of the free.
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Lorelei Patel
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09-07-2006 08:41
From: Monique Mistral The only positive thing about the agenda of the Neocon-Zionist cabal is that it was never pushed by the American people. The United States has been hijacked and duped by these vile exploiters, their control over massmedia and their puppet on a string president. Hoo boy. "Zionist" control over the "mass media"? Hm. Seems I've heard that one before. But where?
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Cannae Brentano
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09-07-2006 09:45
From: Chip Midnight Bush is also trying to get legislation passed that would allow "evidence" that was obtained under duress (torture) to be used against them. I have to hand it to them. They look as though they're coming clean and changing their ways when in reality they're trying to legitamize the whole deal retroactively. Yeah, let's see... kidnap dissidents, torture them until they "confess," put them before a kangaroo court where they're not allowed to hear the evidence against them due to "national security" and then execute them. Welcome to the land of the free. Its even worse than that. The right to a civilian trial is not allowed for anyone classifed as an enemy combatant and they may be detained without a hearing or speak to a lawyer until hostilities are over. I wish this bill was just something out of left field (right field?), but its a reflection of what's going on in the US on all levels of government and crosses party lines, although this is a new low. Expect to see this trend to continue for as long as law enforcement is given a higher priority over justice.
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Finning Widget
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Join date: 27 Feb 2006
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09-07-2006 10:00
From: Lorelei Patel Hoo boy. "Zionist" control over the "mass media"? Hm. Seems I've heard that one before. But where? meh. The quoted one has something of a point - it's not Zionist, it's that the Dominionists want Israel to continue to exist because unless /it/ exists, their Messiah can't return to torture and kill all the Jews, and set the Dominionists to Exalted status. At least, according to some weird interpretation of biblical prophecy.
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Monique Mistral
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09-08-2006 06:01
From: Lorelei Patel Hoo boy. "Zionist" control over the "mass media"? Hm. Seems I've heard that one before. But where? Zionist (Neoconservative) and Jews in general do control the large majority of US massmedia, yes, that is an uncontestable fact. Who you heard it from on the other hand is irrelevant.
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Lord Sullivan
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09-08-2006 06:42
From: Finning Widget There's going to be a lot of hay made out of how the Bush Administration is recognising these 'detainees' under the Geneva Conventions. It's all bullshit.
From Forbes.Com: "The president said the 14 key terrorist leaders, including Mohammed, Binalshibh, and Zubaydah, who have been transferred to the U.S. military-run prison at Guantanamo Bay would be afforded some legal protections consistent with the Geneva Conventions."
Note, "SOME legal protections CONSISTENT with..." blah, blah, blah, real genuine authentic naugahyde, dozens of naugas were killed to bring you this quality product, preserved in real snake oil.
That ONE statement right THERE should be enough to get him IMPEACHED. Never mind VIOLATING the Geneva Conventions! Soverignity of nations! Covert ops!
And his administration is trying to get legislation pushed through that will RETROACTIVELY ABSOLVE anyone who committed a war crime from being prosecuted!
From Forbes.com : "Aides said the legislation being introduced on Bush's behalf later Wednesday on Capitol Hill insists on provisions covering military tribunals that would permit evidence to be withheld from a defendant if necessary to protect classified information.
As part of the package, Bush asked Congress to shield from prosecution or lawsuits federal personnel who handle terrorist suspects.
"Passing this legislation ought to be the top priority," Bush said."
See this? This is Bush, thumbing his nose at the RULE of LAW. All you NeoCons and Bush Apologists can shut /right/ up /right/ now. The obligatory "This will not end well" 
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Siobhan Taylor
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09-08-2006 06:44
From: Chip Midnight Yeah, let's see... kidnap dissidents, torture them until they "confess," put them before a kangaroo court where they're not allowed to hear the evidence against them due to "national security" and then execute them. Welcome to the land of the free. You sure you're not referring to Second Life here?
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Lorelei Patel
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09-08-2006 08:28
From: Monique Mistral Zionist (Neoconservative) and Jews in general do control the large majority of US massmedia, yes, that is an uncontestable fact. Who you heard it from on the other hand is irrelevant. Well, WORKING in it for one, I know you're wrong. If we ran the place, I would probably be getting the High Holies off, but no.
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Uma Bauhaus
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09-08-2006 09:41
From: Chip Midnight Yeah, let's see... kidnap dissidents, torture them until they "confess," put them before a kangaroo court where they're not allowed to hear the evidence against them due to "national security" and then execute them. Welcome to the land of the free. I'm really happy that this was posted in the Sandbox before the forum closed. I only wish it could stay open long enough that we could celebrate taking back the house, the senate, and later the white house. The world is at war with radical neoconfascists.
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Chip Midnight
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09-08-2006 10:02
From: Uma Bauhaus I'm really happy that this was posted in the Sandbox before the forum closed. I only wish it could stay open long enough that we could celebrate taking back the house, the senate, and later the white house. The world is at war with radical neoconfascists. I have my hopes but they're tempered by the last election when I thought only the radical fringe could be crazy enough to reelect Bush. No single event has ever tarnished my opinion of my fellow US residents as that last election. I'd like to think there'll be a democratic sweep this time, but who knows. And even if there is, while I'll be highly relieved that the neocon coup has been kneecapped, I'm not a big fan of the dems either. Both sides of the aisle are full of demagogues and crooks.
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