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I hate jazz and am proud to admit it!

Susie Boffin
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10-21-2005 20:07
Does anyone else share my feelings? I like all kinds of music but jazz makes me feel like ending it all. It sounds like people practicing in the hopes that someday they will be able to play real music. I'm not joking. I want to barf when I hear it and not even rap can make me feel that way.
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Merwan Marker
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10-21-2005 20:47
I'm not sure what you mean by jazz...or what music you've heard or concerts you've been too...

Jazz is the only indigenous American music, treasured throughout the world!!

This truly American music has it's roots in the slave songs in the fields of the South; soulful gospel choirs, and blues songs.

Sister if you've never head Coleman Hawkins or John Coltrane play a ballad, Miles Davis play In A Silent Way, or hear Billy Holiday cry out a song - you've have never heard jazz.


Repent!

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Chance Abattoir
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10-21-2005 21:04
From: Susie Boffin
Does anyone else share my feelings? I like all kinds of music but jazz makes me feel like ending it all. It sounds like people practicing in the hopes that someday they will be able to play real music. I'm not joking. I want to barf when I hear it and not even rap can make me feel that way.


From your description, I can only assume you mean freestyle/freeform (whatever it is called) jazz. Yeah, I'm right there with you. I like other jazz, just not THAT crap where it sounds like everyone is playing atonal solos at the same time.

Atonal can be cool, solos can be cool, together they're a nightmare.
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Susie Boffin
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10-21-2005 21:08
From: Merwan Marker
I'm not sure what you mean by jazz...or what music you've heard or concerts you've been too...

Jazz is the only indigenous American music, treasured throughout the world!!

This truly American music has it's roots in the slave songs in the fields of the South; soulful gospel choirs, and blues songs.

Sister if you've never head Coleman Hawkins or John Coltrane play a ballad, Miles Davis play In A Silent Way, or hear Billy Holiday cry out a song - you've have never heard jazz.


Repent!

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Hi Merwan. Yeah I've heard all of those people and it doesn't change my opinion. I was inspired to write this post after being dragged to a jazz bar where all I could do was to keep from barfing. To me, jazz is a bunch of white guys playing saxs without any soul at all. They try I guess.

By the way there are other types of original American music. Bluegrass (not that top 40 country crap) certainly is an American original. And Native American music is certainly original as is the blues which is NOT jazz. I may even go as far as saying that Rock and Roll is an original American musical creation despite the stuff you hear on the radio now a days.
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Susie Boffin
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10-21-2005 21:12
From: Chance Abattoir
From your description, I can only assume you mean freestyle/freeform (whatever it is called) jazz. Yeah, I'm right there with you. I like other jazz, just not THAT crap where it sounds like everyone is playing atonal solos at the same time.

Atonal can be cool, solos can be cool, together they're a nightmare.


What he/she said. :)
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Chance Abattoir
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10-21-2005 21:13
From: Susie Boffin
What he/she said. :)


It. :)
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Ananda Sandgrain
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10-21-2005 21:17
ohhhh, you're thinking of smooooooth jazz.
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Susie Boffin
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10-21-2005 21:24
From: Ananda Sandgrain
ohhhh, you're thinking of smooooooth jazz.


Yeah those white guys playing stuff that hurts your ears and leaves you a nervous wreck. Like the stuff they play in your local Starbucks.
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Lo Jacobs
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10-21-2005 22:25
Some jazz is really great. Most of it sounds like elevator music.

I think jazz is really a musician's sort of thing where everyone just kind of jams. I prefer jazz's more rock-and-roll cousin, the blues. Jazz is like perfect background music. You don't go to listen to it, you go to talk to other people while it's in the background and you clap each time a song ends.
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Chance Abattoir
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10-22-2005 00:06
From: Lo Jacobs

Jazz is like perfect background music. You don't go to listen to it, you go to talk to other people while it's in the background and you clap each time a song ends.


Just like powernoize! Oh wait... no, not at all. :o
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Armath Severine
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10-22-2005 11:59
I used to hate jazz.

But then I started listening to it.

And i like it :D

I also, enjoy a nice honey-vanilla chai.

So what of my character.


(psst! Maddie! defend!)
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Loki Pico
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10-22-2005 12:30
What I dont get is why Jazz is lumped in with Big Band. About 95% of any big band streams on the net is going to include some jazz, and its not really the same at all. I really like big band music, but its hard to find a stream that wont throw in some jazz along with it.
Torley Linden
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10-22-2005 12:33
From: Chance Abattoir
Just like powernoize! Oh wait... no, not at all. :o


MERZBOW WANTS J00
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10-22-2005 12:36
You need to find the dingiest, tiniest, craziest jazz club you can find with some nuts 75-year-old guy playing the drums with the brushes. We have this place in the bad side of town, its someone's house they turned into a bar, and they have Chicken N Jazz nights on Wednesday and Saturday. Its crazy to see some national jazz names burning it up in what is essentially someone's living room. Probably the best part about my weird little town.

Smooth jazz is NOT the good shit. Smooth jazz is Weather Channel.


(Lo has an excellent point with the musician's music thing. I used to hate it until like 4 musicians in a row forced it upon me and I finally started appreciating it.)
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Nolan Nash
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10-22-2005 12:41
My fave Jazz:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Redbone

I love his lazy voice.

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10-22-2005 12:48
From: Torley Torgeson
MERZBOW WANTS J00

Thats a totally off topic response, lol. I saw Merzbow perform live, a nice comfy sit down venue at the University of Texas. I just closed my eyes and melted into the white noise. It is pretty amazing how his work is strangely melodic. He ended the show by blowing his speakers. They scrambled around to try to find replacements and he did continue a bit, but the moment was lost when the speakers blew. It was the end of the show really, the afterwards was just an encore. Cool stuff.
Nimue Galatea
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10-23-2005 11:48
My $.03 cents: Maybe you mean improvisational jazz? Smooth jazz seems ok, but not the other one...although I started liking it a tiny bit after listening to Jane Monheit.

Two weird jazz facts:
1. A lot of classical musicians are fond of jazz.
2. If you go and observe people in an upscale jazz club, by the concentrated, thoughtful looks on their faces you can tell they're having a strange, powerful experience...
Susie Boffin
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10-23-2005 12:05
From: Nimue Galatea
My $.03 cents: Maybe you mean improvisational jazz? Smooth jazz seems ok, but not the other one...although I started liking it a tiny bit after listening to Jane Monheit.

Two weird jazz facts:
1. A lot of classical musicians are fond of jazz.
2. If you go and observe people in an upscale jazz club, by the concentrated, thoughtful looks on their faces you can tell they're having a strange, powerful experience...


I mean all jazz except for Dixieland which doesn't sound like jazz to me.

I happen to live in a part of the USA with lots of jazz fans thus there are upscale jazz clubs which was where I was the other night. I think there are so many jazz fans here because of all of the Starbucks they drink.

Anyway you are right about the rapt look on many faces. I was sitting there ready to cry in horror at the unspeakable sounds I was hearing but most others, including my dummy husband, actually loved it.

Musical taste is just that...taste. No amount of logical thinking, or listening to the "good jazz", will ever make me like that stuff.

I will have my revenge though. My husband hates Celtic music as much as I hate jazz so guess where I am taking him next?
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Copper Surface
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10-23-2005 18:43
Susie, I am SO biased in favour of Jazz it's not funny. However, I remember when I was 13 and caught my first earfuls of what seemed to be musicians playing several different songs at the same time with occasional translations of crossword clues into musical notes a.k.a. solos.

There are really many flavours of it and while there are no guarantees, the live improv can turn out fantastically well sometimes. Jazz is one of the most flexible and varied genres. If you find the right band playing the right song at the right time, watch out. The drums and bass can override your central nervous system, the guitar and horn can take turns teasing your senses and the magic that is the jazz piano will amaze.

Don't get me started. Oops. Too late.
All that aside, some say Jazz is a musician's music.
I found that it was much more easily appreciated after developing a good ear for rhythm, harmonies/dissonances and progressions from my own studies. Sort of like wine, I guess,
which still tastes like funny grape juice to me.
Susie Boffin
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10-23-2005 18:52
From: Copper Surface
Susie, I am SO biased in favour of Jazz it's not funny. However, I remember when I was 13 and caught my first earfuls of what seemed to be musicians playing several different songs at the same time with occasional translations of crossword clues into musical notes a.k.a. solos.

There are really many flavours of it and while there are no guarantees, the live improv can turn out fantastically well sometimes. Jazz is one of the most flexible and varied genres. If you find the right band playing the right song at the right time, watch out. The drums and bass can override your central nervous system, the guitar and horn can take turns teasing your senses and the magic that is the jazz piano will amaze.

Don't get me started. Oops. Too late.
All that aside, some say Jazz is a musician's music.
I found that it was much more easily appreciated after developing a good ear for rhythm, harmonies/dissonances and progressions from my own studies. Sort of like wine, I guess,
which still tastes like funny grape juice to me.


I'm happy that you like that suff hehe. Give me real music anytime that makes me jump up and do the jig. To me jazz is souless while Celtic music brings me to my feet and makes me half crazed with happiness. :)
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Copper Surface
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10-23-2005 19:08
OMG, we've got great attendance and turnaround today, thanks to the W-Hats ;)
My sister is crazy about Celtic music too and is pretty handy with a tin whistle herself. I quite like the beat, when I'm in a cheerful mood.

P.S. When I'm not on Jazz, I'm on Deep Purple, Dream Theater, Yes and Jimmy Barnes. We all need some balance.
Susie Boffin
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10-23-2005 19:24
From: Copper Surface
OMG, we've got great attendance and turnaround today, thanks to the W-Hats ;)
My sister is crazy about Celtic music too and is pretty handy with a tin whistle herself. I quite like the beat, when I'm in a cheerful mood.

P.S. When I'm not on Jazz, I'm on Deep Purple, Dream Theater, Yes and Jimmy Barnes. We all need some balance.


Yes I agree. When I need balance I listen to Bluegrass. :D
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Zephria Zapata
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10-23-2005 20:01
Here's my 2 cents worth!! I HATE JAZZ............. I HATE COUNTRY ... I HATE BLUEGRASS.. I HATE OPERA.... I HATE CLASSICAL ....

I LOVE METAL/ROCK/GOTH/DARK MUSIC THOU .. :)
Garnet Psaltery
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10-24-2005 01:23
Jazz. Delicious Hot, Disgusting Cold.
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