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Merwan Marker
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11-02-2005 18:54
God's love is the heart of all religions - let's view them as beads on one string that forms a gorgeous neckless surrounding all humanity.



:p :)
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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11-02-2005 18:56
What if you don't believe in the neckless?

~Ulrika~
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Roland Hauptmann
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11-02-2005 18:57
From: Merwan Marker
God's love is the heart of all religions - let's view them as beads on one string that forms a gorgeous neckless surrounding all humanity.
:p :)


There are religions, such as Taoism, which are not deistic. :)
Ellie Edo
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11-02-2005 18:58
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
What if you don't believe in the neckless?

~Ulrika~
I do. I once saw a fat guy with absolutely none at all.
Ellie Edo
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11-02-2005 19:00
But joking apart, Merwan, you gifted me a most beautiful mental image, thankyou :)
Merwan Marker
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11-02-2005 19:17
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
What if you don't believe in the neckless?

~Ulrika~



Then follow the way of a respectful heart, strong mind, clear voice.

You know what I'm talking about Ulrika.


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Merwan Marker
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11-02-2005 19:18
From: Roland Hauptmann
There are religions, such as Taoism, which are not deistic. :)



True!

The Taoist be the bead's glimmring beauty.
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Daz Honey
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11-02-2005 19:24
From: Merwan Marker
God's love is the heart of all religions - let's view them as beads on one string that forms a gorgeous neckless surrounding all humanity.



:p :)
that's a lovely thought, too bad the catholic church has been allowed to slide on decades of child abuse and nutcase Bush thinks God told him to murder 100,000 people (so far) and Pat Robertson wants to kill an elected leader etc, and not to mention the insane religious freaks who blow themselves and innocent people up. In my opinion, religion is crap, made up rules to keep people, especially women, in their place and to give structure to people who have weak minds. Religion is the number one reason why humanity as a whole is stuck in a rut, we have the technology and money to colonise planets but we gotta keep hating and killing and it is pathetic. We are all the same, there aren't a hundred different gods all telling different things, face it, if yopu are religious you are buying into some human's idea of God but it ain't the truth....
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11-02-2005 19:28
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
What if you don't believe in the neckless?

~Ulrika~


It doesn't matter. I have *proof* of the neckless.

/112/ba/69508/1.html

At least, until the avatar changes.
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Chance Abattoir
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11-02-2005 19:35
From: Desmond Shang
It doesn't matter. I have *proof* of the neckless.

/112/ba/69508/1.html

At least, until the avatar changes.


One time there was a nude model I had to draw who had no neck... down there. That in itself would have been the most disturbing thing ever, but no, he one-upped himself by constructing a steel cage that he BROUGHT WITH HIM, complete with straps so that he could hold his poses longer because he was old and overweight.

"Eww" does not suffice.
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Daz Honey
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11-02-2005 19:53
From: Chance Abattoir
One time there was a nude model I had to draw who had no neck... down there. That in itself would have been the most disturbing thing ever, but no, he one-upped himself by constructing a steel cage that he BROUGHT WITH HIM, complete with straps so that he could hold his poses longer because he was old and overweight.

"Eww" does not suffice.
crickey *rolls Raphael over in his grave*
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Susie Boffin
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11-02-2005 20:16
Nice idea Merwan but as far as the Moslem/Christian folks go I would be more than happy to see God's Choosen People left alone. Hard to believe but some faiths don't see any difference between Christians and Moslems.

Why am I saying this? I have no idea except to point out what a muddle this all is.
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Ellie Edo
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11-02-2005 20:20
From: Susie Boffin
God's Choosen People left alone. Hard to believe but some faiths don't see any difference betwenn Christians and Moslems.
What are you talking about, Susie ? Please explain.
Merwan Marker
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11-02-2005 20:21
From: Susie Boffin
Nice idea Merwan but as far as the Moslem/Christian folks go I would be more than happy to see God's Choosen People left alone. Hard to believe but some faiths don't see any difference betwenn Christians and Moslems.

Why am I saying this? I have no idea except to point out what a muddle this all is.



Yep it is a muddle - one that pretty ideas won't enlighten.

What will work is forgetting religion and living from our hearts - when I lead with my heart, rather than my mind, I am at one with others.

Then I can rip 'em a new one if i wanna.


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Zuzu Fassbinder
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11-02-2005 20:27
From: Susie Boffin
Hard to believe but some faiths don't see any difference betwenn Christians and Moslems.


Like the Baha'i
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Susie Boffin
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11-02-2005 20:43
From: Ellie Edo
What are you talking about, Susie ? Please explain.


Jewish people see don't much differences since they both seem to take turns at trying to exterminate us. I have no idea why and I am not taliking about ancient history.

Am I saying that those 2 religions are to blame? Not at all. I am saying that during WW2 the head boss of the Catholics had not a word to say about the slaughter of millions of innocents nor did the head boss of the official German State Church (the Lutherans). It is continuing to this day with those guys who say they represent Islam.

I am not talking about religious ideaology here but the cold hard facts. Sorry to you folks who would rather keep this in the theoretical realm but thems the facts.

I have little interest in either of those religions and all I want to do is to be able to live in peace.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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11-02-2005 20:51
From: Merwan Marker
You know what I'm talking about Ulrika.
Yeah. I hear you loud and clear. I should scratch SUVs, destroy bibles, and start wars. ;)

~Ulrika~
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11-02-2005 21:07
From: Susie Boffin
Jewish people see don't much differences since they both seem to take turns at trying to exterminate us. I have no idea why and I am not taliking about ancient history.

I have little interest in either of those religions and all I want to do is to be able to live in peace.
Susie, as you know, Jesus was Jewish. You can hold on to that fact the next time you think of Christians trying to attack you (or anyone). Know that those who are attacking are attacking their own faith.

I am sorry that people do bad things. I am sorry that humans try to twist religion to meet their own needs at the expense of others.
Susie Boffin
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11-02-2005 21:11
From: Kurgan Asturias
Susie, as you know, Jesus was Jewish. You can hold on to that fact the next time you think of Christians trying to attack you (or anyone). Know that those who are attacking are attacking their own faith.

I am sorry that people do bad things. I am sorry that humans try to twist religion to meet their own needs at the expense of others.


I appreciate your post I really do but I could care less if people attack my heritage and religion. What I really care about is people killing us. I don't know how else to say it.

And, by the way, I don't take offense when people ( not you Kurgan) try to insert their little humerous quips into this thread. That is the nature of humans...to try to avoid the hurtful subjects.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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11-02-2005 21:23
From: Susie Boffin
Nice idea Merwan but as far as the Moslem/Christian folks go I would be more than happy to see God's Choosen People left alone.
There's no one here picking on Republicans.

~Ulrika~
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11-02-2005 21:27
From: Merwan Marker
God's love is the heart of all religions - let's view them as beads on one string that forms a gorgeous neckless surrounding all humanity.


Sorry.

Nothing's going to make me go for Scientology. :P
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11-02-2005 21:56
From: Merwan Marker
God's love is the heart of all religions - let's view them as beads on one string that forms a gorgeous neckless surrounding all humanity. :p :)


That would include the Aztecs, would it, who regularly cut out of the hearts of their enemies, beaded them on a string, and offered them up to their god out of love for him?

Or Christian crusaders who paraded the dried and salted hearts of their Muslim enemies through the streets of Paris, Lourdes, and London, upon their return?

Or Muslims who prefaced their tortures of captured Christian crusaders with short sermons about Allah's love?

How many more examples do you want? Sorry to destroy the lovely images, but the first step toward any Love that subsumes and includes all humanity is to recognize and deal with Truths.
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Roland Hauptmann
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11-02-2005 22:09
From: Seth Kanahoe
That would include the Aztecs, would it, who regularly cut out of the hearts of their enemies, beaded them on a string, and offered them up to their god out of love for him?

Or Christian crusaders who paraded the dried and salted hearts of their Muslim enemies through the streets of Paris, Lourdes, and London, upon their return?

Or Muslims who prefaced their tortures of captured Christian crusaders with short sermons about Allah's love?

How many more examples do you want? Sorry to destroy the lovely images, but the first step toward any Love that subsumes and includes all humanity is to recognize and deal with Truths.


Some might suggest that such actions are the result of the members of the religions, rather than the religions themselves. (although the Aztecs actually did have human sacrifice as a core aspect of the religion, so I guess that's kind of problematic.. but then again, their religion didn't help them that much. Maybe they pissed off their god with all that heart chopping stuff. ;) )
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11-02-2005 22:39
From: Susie Boffin
Jewish people see don't much differences since they both seem to take turns at trying to exterminate us. I have no idea why and I am not taliking about ancient history.


Well, the root of the Arab/Israeli conflict (and that is what it is, it's not a Muslim/Jewish conflict, although it has turned into that over the last 4500 years) is that our patriarch Avraham favored his younger son Yitzhak over his older son Yshmael. And Yshmael's family has been pissed off about it ever since.

As far as Christians killing Jews, that whole thing is because most so-called Christians aren't Christians at all. If they read and followed what Rabbi Yeshua ha'Nazoreti actually taught, they'd realize they're supposed to love their neighbors. But noooooooooo...

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