I don't want to slant the discussion on this either way, so I'm not adding any person commentary....yet.
For now I am just going to post the link. What do you all think about this?
http://infowars.com/articles/ps/busted_for_wearing_peace_tshirt.htm
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Vares Solvang
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07-27-2006 22:09
I don't want to slant the discussion on this either way, so I'm not adding any person commentary....yet.
For now I am just going to post the link. What do you all think about this? http://infowars.com/articles/ps/busted_for_wearing_peace_tshirt.htm _____________________
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Aaron Levy
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07-27-2006 22:20
What happened to him was definitely wrong. Why does he want to sue the president though?
... Also, the site the story comes from -- the fact that it exists -- disproves the theories propagated on the site. If we lived in a police state, their website would not be up and running. ... But to the original story, if its true, he will win in court, provided the story happened how he says it did. I'd be interested in tracking his progress, but I really doubt we'll ever hear anything again about this. _____________________
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PetGirl Bergman
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07-27-2006 22:24
![]() My father had a huge when I was a child.. and yes he was at Woodstook festival (http://www.woodstock69.com/) as young,.,, and yes I let it be special made in SL to my closest friends.. I also have a flag with that special sign... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_sign /Tina - Peace and love to al... _____________________
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Lorelei Patel
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07-27-2006 22:32
Wish I could be in court that day to hear how the VA has the right to do away with First Amendment rights on government property. Would be good for a laugh.
OTOH, a search of his name in news.google.com reveals makes me think that he's a person who thrives on confrontation and the notoriety that derives from it, so... meh. Maybe he got what he was looking for: ANTI-WAR GRAFFITI Ferner is guilty of vandalism on Sylvania Township bridge By MARK REITER BLADE STAFF WRITER Peace activist and former Toledo mayoral candidate Mike Ferner was convicted yesterday in Lucas County Common Pleas Court of defacing a state highway bridge with anti-war graffiti. A jury took less than 20 minutes to find Ferner guilty of felony vandalism and possession of criminal tools for spray painting "Troops Out Now!" on the Central Avenue overpass on I-475/U.S. 23 in Sylvania Township on New Year's Day. Judge Charles Wittenberg will sentence Ferner, 55, of 2975 113th St., on Aug. 4. A Toledo councilman from 1989 to 1993 and unsuccessful mayoral candidate in 1993, he is looking at possible one-year prison sentences for each offense and fines up to $7,500. Ferner had the opportunity to resolve the case months ago by pleading to a misdemeanor charge in Sylvania Municipal Court. He said last night that he didn't regret going to trial and was willing to accept any punishment that Judge Wittenberg would impose. (eta: Ferner pled guilty to the vandalism charge.) ... In March, he was arrested on charges of disrupting a congressional hearing in the U.S. Capitol Building for vocally protesting additional funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was arrested by U.S. Capitol Police and charged with disruption of Congress, a misdemeanor. Authorities said several people were involved, and Ferner was one of two men arrested. ... On June 30, he was arrested at the Veterans Administration Medical Center building in Chicago for disorderly conduct. He said he was protesting outside the building with the group "Veterans for Peace'' when he went inside to buy coffee. A security officer approached him, pointed to his Veterans for Peace shirt, and told him he couldn't protest in the building. He said he was arrested after he refused to leave. He said an attorney with the Chicago chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union has offered to represent him on the charge, which carries a $275 fine. _____________________
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Aaron Levy
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07-27-2006 22:36
On June 30, he was arrested at the Veterans Administration Medical Center building in Chicago for disorderly conduct. He said he was protesting outside the building with the group "Veterans for Peace'' when he went inside to buy coffee. A security officer approached him, pointed to his Veterans for Peace shirt, and told him he couldn't protest in the building. He said he was arrested after he refused to leave. Ahhhhh... There you have it -- the WHOLE story. His "news story" on the other website didn't even mention that he was indeed on the property to protest... "just going in to buy coffee..." Yah, right. When you are protesting some place, you don't generally get to go inside and hang out, get a drink, etc... How stupid is this guy? _____________________
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Lorelei Patel
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07-27-2006 22:40
Yeah, really. Damn that biased mainstream media.
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Vares Solvang
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07-27-2006 22:46
Ahhhhh... There you have it -- the WHOLE story. His "news story" on the other website didn't even mention that he was indeed on the property to protest... "just going in to buy coffee..." Yah, right. When you are protesting some place, you don't generally get to go inside and hang out, get a drink, etc... How stupid is this guy? Ahhh, there we go. I had not found that other news story, but I just knew there had to be more to this than what he was saying. A good lesson in not jumping to conclusions I think. Thanks to Lorelei for finding that other information, it certainly puts a better perspective on the whole situation. Edit: hehe, go back and look at the big red box at the bottom of the article. ![]() "INFOWARS: BECAUSE THERE'S A WAR ON FOR YOUR MIND" _____________________
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Lorelei Patel
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07-27-2006 22:52
I still don't know that the charges would stand up in court. However, the full story does change things.
Reading the first one, I had thought that maybe he was at the VA building for a doctor's appointment or something, and was pounced upon by an overzealous security guard. Reading the second, it seems more like this is a guy who wants to make a name for himself in the anti-war movement by getting himself arrested as often as possible. In that sense, he succeeded. No sense feeling sorry for the professional vicitm. _____________________
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