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Aaron Perkins

Registered User

Join date: 14 Nov 2003

Posts: 50

03-11-2004 13:24

Here they are,
http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/winxp/radeonwdm-xp.html?type=xp&prodType=graphic&prod=productsXPdriver&submit.x=7&submit.y=8&submit=GO%21

Haven't tried them yet myself since I wait for the Omega versions... Anyone see any improvements?

Chromal Brodsky

ExperimentalMetaphysicist

Join date: 24 Feb 2004

Posts: 243

03-11-2004 13:41

LOL, I just posted the same thing on the sticky thread. Yeah.. Just installed them at home via VNC. Anyone heard the good word on whether or not these drivers improve or address any of the SecondLife issues?

Demerits to ATI for not releasing a detailed changelog with itemized bugfixes and updates. (Or for placing it somewhere obscure- e.g.: not on the download site nor in the actual driver package itself). C'mon, ATI, get with the program!

Perhaps this, combined with SL 1.3, will bury my random crashes, system lockups on minimize, and corrupt textures.

BlackAdder York

Charter Member

Join date: 22 May 2003

Posts: 283

03-11-2004 21:59

The new driver contains no fixes specific to SL. It does have an improved pixel shader for cards with hardware DX9 support.

mirror.ati.com/support/includes/titles/fixed.html

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Chromal Brodsky

ExperimentalMetaphysicist

Join date: 24 Feb 2004

Posts: 243

03-12-2004 09:18

I noticed with the new ATI drivers that there would be a long (e.g.: 1-2s) pause with no frame updates when I would click the cursor on the screen. After a while it crashed. Slow AND unstable. Nice package you got going there, ATI. Retrograding to 2004-02-15 version of drivers at least removed the constant pauses.

Ben

Moleculor Satyr

Fireflies!

Join date: 5 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,650

03-12-2004 10:56

Like I keep saying: ATI can't code a driver to save their own life.

Come. Join with the dark side of the GeForce!

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Kandahar Kuroda

Character Assassin

Join date: 4 Mar 2004

Posts: 21

03-12-2004 14:32

Yes, it's the new ATI drivers. Had same problems as above, lag, slowing streaming to cache, freezes. Reloaded ATI drivers from February, and now there are no problems.

I'd order an NVidia 5950 today, except I hear that there are some extremely better cards coming from NVidia and ATI in a couple of months. Anyone have word on that?

Ama Omega

Lost Wanderer

Join date: 11 Dec 2002

Posts: 1,770

03-12-2004 15:13

From: someone

Originally posted by Kandahar Kuroda
I'd order an NVidia 5950 today, except I hear that there are some extremely better cards coming from NVidia and ATI in a couple of months. Anyone have word on that?

Yeah. There are always extremely better cards comming out from thin in a few months. Always. They will cost $500+ too.

I got a 5700 Ultra and aside from it taking its own additional power hookup (like a HD does), I'm happy with it.

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Chromal Brodsky

ExperimentalMetaphysicist

Join date: 24 Feb 2004

Posts: 243

03-17-2004 13:47

Has there been any progress on the issue with the slowdown (more like pause, really) in the newest ATI drivers and SecondLife 1.2.x on mouse cursor selection events? I'd love to be running the newer Catylist drivers....

Also, what sort of roadmap is there for progress with outstanding ATI issues? I'm definitely game for testing client fixes.

AyAn4m1 Noir

Member

Join date: 16 Jan 2004

Posts: 19

03-17-2004 16:37

Well, I'm using 4.2 (the Omega release), and sticking with it for now. 4.3 seems to create a few nasty problems. At this point, Chromal, I don't think its going to be a client fix. ATI needs to change the way that their cards access the texture cache in OpenGL mode, which they have tried to do, but haven't succeded with as of yet. I still think that ATI cards are, on the whole, better than nVidia's cards, because they run faster and don't need those massive cooling systems (I run a 9200 Pro in my laptop, 350Mhz/250Mhz). They also are, on the whole, selected as the "flagship card" for many big games, like HL2. The benchmarks for HL2 were 30fps on a Radeon 9500, and 10fps on a nVidia 5700 Ultra.

Catalyst 4.3 Out ...
Aaron Perkins Registered User Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 50	03-11-2004 13:24 Here they are, http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/winxp/radeonwdm-xp.html?type=xp&prodType=graphic&prod=productsXPdriver&submit.x=7&submit.y=8&submit=GO%21 Haven't tried them yet myself since I wait for the Omega versions... Anyone see any improvements?
Chromal Brodsky ExperimentalMetaphysicist Join date: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 243	03-11-2004 13:41 LOL, I just posted the same thing on the sticky thread. Yeah.. Just installed them at home via VNC. Anyone heard the good word on whether or not these drivers improve or address any of the SecondLife issues? Demerits to ATI for not releasing a detailed changelog with itemized bugfixes and updates. (Or for placing it somewhere obscure- e.g.: not on the download site nor in the actual driver package itself). C'mon, ATI, get with the program! Perhaps this, combined with SL 1.3, will bury my random crashes, system lockups on minimize, and corrupt textures.
BlackAdder York Charter Member Join date: 22 May 2003 Posts: 283	03-11-2004 21:59 The new driver contains no fixes specific to SL. It does have an improved pixel shader for cards with hardware DX9 support. mirror.ati.com/support/includes/titles/fixed.html _____________________ Avatar Central (Aqua 140, 220) - Come in and Equip yourself. Everything under the sun, plus a few Freebies. The Black Adder...Lord High Executioner, and Harbinger of the Doomed Rat
Chromal Brodsky ExperimentalMetaphysicist Join date: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 243	03-12-2004 09:18 I noticed with the new ATI drivers that there would be a long (e.g.: 1-2s) pause with no frame updates when I would click the cursor on the screen. After a while it crashed. Slow AND unstable. Nice package you got going there, ATI. Retrograding to 2004-02-15 version of drivers at least removed the constant pauses. Ben
Moleculor Satyr Fireflies! Join date: 5 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,650	03-12-2004 10:56 Like I keep saying: ATI can't code a driver to save their own life. Come. Join with the dark side of the GeForce! _____________________ </sarcasm>
Kandahar Kuroda Character Assassin Join date: 4 Mar 2004 Posts: 21	03-12-2004 14:32 Yes, it's the new ATI drivers. Had same problems as above, lag, slowing streaming to cache, freezes. Reloaded ATI drivers from February, and now there are no problems. I'd order an NVidia 5950 today, except I hear that there are some extremely better cards coming from NVidia and ATI in a couple of months. Anyone have word on that?
Ama Omega Lost Wanderer Join date: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 1,770	03-12-2004 15:13 From: someone Originally posted by Kandahar Kuroda I'd order an NVidia 5950 today, except I hear that there are some extremely better cards coming from NVidia and ATI in a couple of months. Anyone have word on that? Yeah. There are always extremely better cards comming out from thin in a few months. Always. They will cost $500+ too. I got a 5700 Ultra and aside from it taking its own additional power hookup (like a HD does), I'm happy with it. _____________________ -- 010000010110110101100001001000000100111101101101011001010110011101100001 --
Chromal Brodsky ExperimentalMetaphysicist Join date: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 243	03-17-2004 13:47 Has there been any progress on the issue with the slowdown (more like pause, really) in the newest ATI drivers and SecondLife 1.2.x on mouse cursor selection events? I'd love to be running the newer Catylist drivers.... Also, what sort of roadmap is there for progress with outstanding ATI issues? I'm definitely game for testing client fixes.
AyAn4m1 Noir Member Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 19	03-17-2004 16:37 Well, I'm using 4.2 (the Omega release), and sticking with it for now. 4.3 seems to create a few nasty problems. At this point, Chromal, I don't think its going to be a client fix. ATI needs to change the way that their cards access the texture cache in OpenGL mode, which they have tried to do, but haven't succeded with as of yet. I still think that ATI cards are, on the whole, better than nVidia's cards, because they run faster and don't need those massive cooling systems (I run a 9200 Pro in my laptop, 350Mhz/250Mhz). They also are, on the whole, selected as the "flagship card" for many big games, like HL2. The benchmarks for HL2 were 30fps on a Radeon 9500, and 10fps on a nVidia 5700 Ultra.

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