Objects-per-simulator "FIX", What the HELL is going on?

Okay. Great. 1.3.4 fixed a bug where people could have 'more objects than they should have' in some vaguely described way.

I just had something on the order of 50 prims in objects returned to my inventory.

Even if I put them all BACK, I still have 20 objects remaining, in simulator useage.

I thought, that with owned land, all the land you owned in a sim went towards SIMULATOR object useage, not just useage on that plot. I'm still *20 under* on my simulator object useage, and I'm still having a massive amount of things returned.

Furthermore, I thought that objects rezzed most recently were the first to go. I had some objects from 1.3 go back into my inventory, and one that was rezzed in *1.0.10*.

Why does it seem that these days, every new feature that comes down the pipe is a new restriction?

I'm trying desperately to try and keep my Lusk Estates build from looking like a round own piece of crap, which Lusk Estates is so famous for.

But that's kind of difficult if I'm hitting the "1.3.4 Mystery Limit."

Okay, replaced all the objects --- and now nothing's getting returned.

So, I had, say, 250 objects with 20 available in 1.3.3.

Install 1.3.4, have 50 objects returned to me. Have 70 remaining.

Replace those 50 objects on my land, and now I have 250 objects with 20 available in the simulator.

... Why were those 50 returned in the first place?

LL: Wouldn't you say that if I had objects returned to my inventory, and after replacing them on my land they aren't being returned, and land info is not showing that I'm over limit -- that this is some sort of bug?

I'm betting that you're at the correct limit now, and the returns were simply LL's algorithms not realizing you had the correct amount of space.

Well, that could be a serious problem, especially for large and intricate unlinkable builds.

Well, nevermind. Everything got returned to me, *again*. And I'm still not going over.

Here's the math:

This is what happens whenever I log off:

==
Tree: Your object 'Tree' has been returned to you from parcel Michi Lumin's Land at Lusk 138, 154.
Tree: Your object 'Tree' has been returned to you from parcel Michi Lumin's Land at Lusk 59, 123.
Sleeping Michi (Shh!): Your object 'Sleeping Michi (Shh!)' has been returned to you from parcel Michi Lumin's Land at Lusk 55, 167.
studio ceiling: Your object 'studio ceiling' has been returned to you from parcel at Lusk 186, 105.
==

Total amount of prims for those items: 36.

Simulator Object Usage (without those rezzed):
320 out of 373 (53 availabile)

Simulator Object Usage (with those rezzed):
356 out of 373 (17 available)

... Not going over. However, when I log off again, the same items are returned.

Have you bugged a Linden in game about it yet?

You don't happen to have a group set on the land (not group owned, just set) and autodelete turned on, do you?

Yep, the Linden response was, "Huh. Weird.", and no I don't have a group set. Keeps happening though.

That tells you the Lindens have no clue what's going on.

How big is your land (each parcel, and total in the sim)? 1632m in the whole sim?

I'm bumping this because after almost 2 days of nothing being returned, and no changes made by me, things are being returned again.

Sounds like a bug indeed. You filed the appropriate bug report? I would not expect a reply here in the forums.

The Lindens are obviously burdened these days. I just got a reply to a bug report I sent about a month ago. I thought they just ignored it, but apparently they pretty busy these days. Bug reports used to be answered within a day or two, Im really shocked that this one got a reply after all this time.

yep. Twice now.

Actually did get a reply from Kelly Linden, who came by my land and said that the objects *should not* be returning.

So it looks like this may be some full on bug.

JESUS CHRIST what is going ON.

I had like 50 objects returned to me from my house in Natoma. That build has been under the limit for weeks. I worked for an entire weekend and then some to ensure this house was in compliance, even tiered up my land allocation to ensure everything was by the rules, so PAID for the right to keep that house in compliance, and now it's got big holes in it.

I would like the house FULLY restored to it's yesterday state.

Unannounced changes and other breaks have given me a significant backlog of work to do in scripting, and now building. This is really starting to feel like a frustrating beta test.

You are not alone, Tcoz. You are not. alone. (echo: alone, lone, one.. )

well that's odd early tonight @ The Source in Noyo it said I had 250 ish free objects... I was like.. that's odd I only used to have about 80 or so free... about 30 minutes later it was showing the correct amount!

We believe we have a fix for this which we plan to implement early this week. Sorry for the trouble it is causing in the mean time.

Thanks Haney, Ian...

It's still happening to me, so I'd make the following suggestion: Things that get returned - DO re-rez them. Reason being, this, the ones you re rez seem to be the ones that get returned again... I'm a bit worried that if you don't replace them, other random objects further into your build may get returned...

Let's hope this one gets fixed soon, as right now, my place looks like an abandoned build, heh.

The SL Mountaineers group was just hit by the same or a similiar problem. We all of a sudden were way over our prim allotment, and lots of our builds were returned in random pieces.

I went around the Tehama sim and found that the land said we were using "2655" prims, 5 under our allotment. But a manual count of all of the prims resulted in a count of "1420" in use. Big difference!

I had a problem like this.. one day we suddenly had 500 or so prims used out of nowhere.. so my friend and I deeded our land to a group and very painstakingly turned ownership of everything to the group, afterword the 500 or so prims were still owned by ourselfs.. but not.. well, after all that we used auto return and they went away.. However.. I bellive I may know why.. we had a script that auto rezed lightning..(then dissapears).. I think possibly the ghosted prims(oh geez, fix that bug already too!, lol), may have counted to our limit... I also had it off and 50 or so came back.. returned those.. now they've been gone awhile.. But nothing auto-returned yet..(we been under out limit by 1000, so is prolly why)