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Have To Use Dial up vs DSL

George Flan
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05-15-2006 10:40
I friend of mine has moved in real life to an area which only has dial up capability at this time and it may be a while before it does get to there area. This person has a Dell XPS and is pretty well loaded and works fantastic with DSL.. Can someone give me the perference settings that they may be able to use with dial up that will help. I know a couple people who are in SL on dial up and although it doesn't work very well at least this person is able to move around in their house, use the pose balls, and as long at there is low scripting and low rezz textures seems to be ok. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Lex Neva
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05-15-2006 10:46
No. It's not possible to play SL with Dial-Up. It can be detrimental to the server, in fact, because it has to retransmit a lot of lost packets. The server spends a disproportionate amount of time on the dial-up user, causing lag for everyone else.
Striker Wolfe
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05-15-2006 10:50
If your friend has money, then he/she should try seatallite, from what i hear its crap but its better than dialup, its still not compatiable with SL, but like I said, its better.
George Flan
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Dial Up
05-15-2006 10:57
Well, I do know at least two people who are using dial up and it has not affected anyone in the sim where they come into, so it does work with SL! They stay at one place (sl house) and none of the neighbors have seen any affect at all. We have to use what is available...I am just trying to find the best preferences, thats all. Besides, maybe what we should have is a version of SL that can work on dial up or satellite, it would let a lot more people enjoy SL.
Travis Lambert
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05-15-2006 11:04
From: George Flan
Well, I do know at least two people who are using dial up and it has not affect anyone in the sim where they come into. They stay at one place (sl house) and none of the neighbors have seen any affect at all. We have to use what is available...I am just trying to find the best preferences, thats all.


George -

What folks are referring to is something called "Packet Loss". Have your friends that are using Dialup check their CTRL-SHIFT-1 screen, and see if they have any packet loss. If they do, they may be inadvertantly causing issues for others they are unaware of.

Avatars with packet loss tend to cause problems for the Simulator because it tries to "retransmit" packets that are lost over & over again. It does indeed affect everyone else in the sim. Thing is, say your friends were sitting at home in a quiet sim - of course, no one (or hardly anyone) would be affected.

As far as settings, you can try dragging your bandwidth slider in Network Preferences to its lowest setting, and see what you get. That's about all you can do.

I've played SL over dialup when my DSL line goes out. Believe me, saying its no picnic is an understatement. Even on the beefyest of computers, things take forever to rez, its extremely difficult to move, and building anything is next to impossible.

Getting Satellite internet service will suck as well because of a different reason (latency) - but its way better than the dialup alternative.

Good luck! :)
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George Flan
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Thanks Travis
05-15-2006 11:15
Thanks Travis, In this case the individual only has the ability to have dial up....any other cost would take them completely out of SL. It is a very quiet sim and so far I have not seen any problems where I now live in SL. This individual has been in SL for about the same length of time as I have and has no choice but to use dial up or quit SL completely. They will be satisfied just to stay in one place and be able to talk and be together with their friends. They do not plan on tping to any other place. I don't want to get into any more details in the forums but would like to discuss by private message. We have talked before...Really appreciate you suggestion.

Thanks
pamela Paklena
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dial up
05-26-2006 23:09
dose anyone if sl will make a dial up version thanks pam
Thili Playfair
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05-27-2006 01:47
err for SL do be dialupfriendly some changed would be needed that will never happen,

never changing world
downloadable option of entire Second Life (got a few terrabytes ?)

So no there will never be a dialupfriendly SL, considering all constant streaming make even most "broadband" crawl :q , watch ingame video streams demands pretty decent line to.
Gene Jacobs
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Dial-up and Satelite in a Co-Ed Connection
05-27-2006 19:07
I have heard rumors of people combining DialUp and Satelite to cut alot of latency issues for Satelite.

Is this a new episode for Mythbusters, or is it founded in truth?

I cant see the real benefit, but I allways wondered.
Striker Wolfe
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05-27-2006 19:10
From: Gene Jacobs
I have heard rumors of people combining DialUp and Satelite to cut alot of latency issues for Satelite.

Is this a new episode for Mythbusters, or is it founded in truth?

I cant see the real benefit, but I allways wondered.

Last I heard of this was YEARS ago when Satelite internet was unable to upload, only download so they used the modem for the upload part.
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05-28-2006 01:55
I had to use dial-up for about a month, while waiting for broadband after we moved to a new place. It wasnt exactly a joy, but I it worked. I limited my time online to just do the most important stuff. (5-10 mins per day). I actually maintained a pretty large mall with the dial-up, just doing clean-ups and IMs.

Sim crossings was the hardest part to do without crashing (my mall was in two adjoining sims), but i managed that too, by crossing EXTREMELY slow.

Set bandwith in network settings to the lowest possible, and turn off streaming music and video, and mute sounds in audio/video.

Also set terrain details to low, all graphics details to lowest, and view distance to 64m.

btw, this was a 56k modem.
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Ron Overdrive
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05-28-2006 04:31
Well you can always "shotgun" it, but that requires at least 2 phone lines and an ISP that supports Multilink. Used to do this back in the day at my cousin's house to increase our bandwith before broadband was around. Basicly Multilink allows you to use two modems to connect to your ISP to create a ghetto ISDN line. 112k connection was pretty good back in the day and wasn't that more expensive if you had 1 regular line and an internet only line (or just 2 internet only lines if you don't wanna tie up your main phone). And if you want another speed boost, sometimes buying a static IP from your ISP works.