List of Grievances

( What is a forum if not somewhere to air your frustrations ! )

1.5.4 ... an update ? seriously ? Ok I did read the release note, but for us Mac users there are far more pressing issues that need addressing.

- In World Sound
Some ( most ? ) Mac users still have no in world and UI sound, ( me included ! ) this one bug is really VERY frustrating and totally detracts from the pleasure of the game. ( I can't go to events like tribal drumming for instance ).

- Invisible Avatars
More and more peoples Avis are not appearing, all I see is their name or attachments. This bug seems to be a fairly recent addition. Logging out and back in is a naff way to get rid of this.

- Textures that rez behind me before the ones in front.
Say no more ! why download stuff outside of the view frustum before the stuff inside it ?

- Textures not rezzing at all.
1.5.4 adds a new dimension to SL on top of the silence we now have reduced visibility! Some textures it seems now never fully rez until the prim is actually clicked on.

- Objects running scripts cannot be opened while a script is running.
Recently I notice that if a script is running in an object and I select it to edit. I cannot get at the contents of the prim until I stop the script running . This never used to happen I'm sure.


- In World Sound
Oh yes, there isnt any !


- Lag:
Awful but not really Mac specific i guess.
It's almost getting worse every day. Last night I was down to 2FPS and there were no particles and only 3 or 4 other Avis in the local area. Re-logging solves it for a while but then after half hour of play its too bad again.


- In World Sound
mmm, quiet in SL isnt it! not.


Anyone from LL care to comment and reassure a poor angel that something is being done about at least the sound issue, I can't keep on filing bug reports surely !

errm, I forgot to mention there is a bit of a Catch 22 situation in that one !

Once again, I'm having all the same issues...

Release the mute button...
I haven't heard a single UI sound since I joined.

Plug up the hole that's gushing packets...
I've witnessed over 500% packet loss! I didn't think it was possible to lose more than 100%?

Clean my camera's lens...
Rendering seems to have taken a dive since v1.5 was released.

I love the new tools in 1.5, but these packet loss & rendering issues that have manifested since its release really bite!

I'm sure in time after a bit more work & evolution these wrinkles will get ironed out, but I'm part of the "me!, me,! me!, now!, now!, now!" generation.

i dont know what setup you are running but i have never had any problems with in world sound, are the volume sliders in your prefs turned up? even then the sounds arent loud (it wasnt till i had my speakers turned up allot that i heard footsteps).

its not a mac problem with AVs not showing, ask them to go to appearance for a sec and their AV should show up.

and im not sure what you mean that objects with scripts running cant be opened... i do it all the time.

all that said i agree the mac version needs some help, will it ever get out of beta?

In that case I would very much like you to email me a system profile of your machine, maybe I can determine what it is that is that could be causing audio to fail on some machines and not others.

And FYI in RL I have been an Audio DSP programmer and professional Mac developer since 1986. That should answer your rather condescending comment about volume sliders!

Interested what setup you're running on?

I'm on a 12" Pb, G4-867, 640 ram, GF4MX 32mb.

I tend to have my audio muted on my laptop anyhow, so I don't notice the missing sound, but I don't really remember having issues with it before. Sometimes the sliders in prefs are changed when a new version is installed, but you've already indicated you've checked those.

I usually run on a PC, but I just moved so I've been logging in on my Mac for the past week.

No issues with scripted objects for me, and I was just in-world playing with one. I'm really confused as to how you can stop the script if you can't get to the contents.

Invisible avatars seems like it might actually be both Mac and PC, but I can't say I've had it happen to me on either version since 1.5.

As for packet loss, if you are running on wireless it will go up significantly, as well as ping times. SL throws a lot of packets at you.

As for rendering, I can't say that the Mac version renders spectacularly, and I do get blur quite a bit, since it seems that things take a while to cache up. Perhaps tweaking your Display/Options prefs, such as enabling Far Clipping and adjust the "reduce draw distance if FPS drops" number.

Actually, having started off with the Mac client and recently switched to the Windows one, it is Mac specific. You have no idea how much better it is.

Movement goes from being jumpy to, while not quite to the level of graceful, quite smooth by comparison.

And that was going from a mid-end Mac to a low-end PC. Although perhaps some of it has to do with going to ATI to nVidia.

I am having every single one of the issues that you listed:

- In World Sound (None except for wind and streaming music but with the last update streaming music only works about 50% of the time)

- Invisible Avatars (Frequent - I see attachments but no AV)

- Textures that rez behind me before the ones in front - Yup

- Textures not rezzing at all. (Recent with 1.5, usually complex items like animals with 40+ prims, I can't see them until I actually click on the area that I know they were positioned.)

- Objects running scripts cannot be opened while a script is running. (Recent with 1.5)

Not to mention some really weird stuff like my land terraforming all by it's self (and yes the Land Edit is turned off).

Trying to position objects and having them a) either not move at all or b) move completely off the sim or c) move and then bounce back to their original position.

Rotations are still hosed.

I'm not ranting - honest - it's just that it's made building anythng less complex than a cube more difficult than it's worth.

Rose

I have 1.5.5 (not sure when it came out). I just got a new Mac, a G4 1.25Ghz Powerbook. I've been playing on my husband's old PC for a couple of weeks. I was so excited to finally be able to play on my own Mac... until I logged in. My avatar is not invisible -- quite the contrary, it's there. It's just jumbled up so the head is in the middle, arms look like ribbons streaming all over the place, etc. It is not recognizeable as a person. I've tried clicking on Appearance. The previews all look just as weird. I've tried logging out and logging back in again. No luck. I've tried putting on another appearance from inventory. No help.

Is anyone else seeing this?

N.D.

Oh, and I've just moved to where I can see someone else, and they look just as bizarre as I do.

However, I *think* the audio is working, so I guess I should be grateful for that, anyway.

N.D.

take a screen shot and post it, (on mycomputer when it mis-renders something it's usualy my video card overheating)

I have the invisible av problem too, and i'm playing on a PC, i log in and they are there but then later they just vanish ~_~