LL hate europeans ?
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Gwendolyn McGinnis
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10-09-2009 10:48
In recent months SL became an ordeal for many Europeans LL he would seek to discourage all Europeans to continue to play a SL? Between the crash repeatedly, the impossibilities has reloguer, through teleports that do not work, delays in the dialogues, the many bugs and was unable to load their entire inventory I understand that many parties are already tired of all these problems I personally lost close to 25 000 / 30 000 items and I am not alone in having this problem This game loses its fun every day, this game becomes unplayable. Stop telling us that it comes from our own equipment and watch your servers instead, I think the problem is rather there!
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Darion Rasmuson
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10-09-2009 11:05
What makes you think Europeans suffer more than other folks? *wondering if I missed something*
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Gwendolyn McGinnis
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10-09-2009 11:14
i had talk with some US guys and they dont seem have this kind of problem
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Darion Rasmuson
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10-09-2009 11:26
I don't have them either, and I'm European. Did that break the theory?  I'm sure you'll find people on either continent that do, and do not have issues.
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Nika Talaj
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10-09-2009 11:27
No, LL doesn't hate Europeans. But yes, performance is worse in Europe because of the distance from Europe to LL's servers, to date all located in the Western US. Things are changing soon, though - Mark Kingdon (LL's CEO) was just in Paris with LL's VP of marketing and the VP of operations, and this is how one blogger reported on his words about Europe: From: someone More emphasis will be on the international. As Mark pointed out, 65% of the users are outside the US, 50% of the billing is outside the US, but so far 100% of the technology is inside the US. Linden Lab will open an office in Amsterdam, is looking for an international business development manager, a European Marketing director, and different country managers. Linden Lab also intends to open a data center in Europe (all their data center are in the US so far), and may close an old one in the US to open one in Washington DC, “east of Missisipi” said Frank (I agree that, for a Californian, east of Missisipi is already abroad). The next viewer will be translated in 15 languages. From: http://blog.hyperdoxe.net/2009/10/after-mark-kingdons-visit-to-paris/
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Eli Schlegal
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10-09-2009 11:29
From: Gwendolyn McGinnis In recent months SL became an ordeal for many Europeans LL he would seek to discourage all Europeans to continue to play a SL? Between the crash repeatedly, the impossibilities has reloguer, through teleports that do not work, delays in the dialogues, the many bugs and was unable to load their entire inventory I understand that many parties are already tired of all these problems I personally lost close to 25 000 / 30 000 items and I am not alone in having this problem This game loses its fun every day, this game becomes unplayable. Stop telling us that it comes from our own equipment and watch your servers instead, I think the problem is rather there! you lost 25,000 items? How many items did you have in total?
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Gwendolyn McGinnis
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10-09-2009 12:24
Nika : i've read something like that about servers installed in europ in future but if its only planned on 2012 i'm not sure i can support have 8/10 crash each days during 2 more years Eli: 25k its a 1/4 of my full inventory...i agree i'm shopping addict (like many other girls i think  )....is a problem to you ?
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Peggy Paperdoll
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10-09-2009 16:42
From: Gwendolyn McGinnis Nika : i've read something like that about servers installed in europ in future but if its only planned on 2012 i'm not sure i can support have 8/10 crash each days during 2 more years Eli: 25k its a 1/4 of my full inventory...i agree i'm shopping addict (like many other girls i think  )....is a problem to you ? So you have a 100k inventory? You, of couse, know that downloading that inventory to your client takes time.........with the distance to Europe, I can see it taking quite a long time. It's not LL's fault your inventory is that large........it's something you will have to deal with no matter where the servers are located. I live about 400 miles from LL's San Francisco data center and I bet it would take a very long time for 100k inventory to load for me too. On the 25k to 30k items lost.......how do you know? Do you have your inventory tracked by some third party database or something? I sincerely doubt you could track it in your head. I think you are exxagerating.........maybe a lot.
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Gwendolyn McGinnis
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10-09-2009 17:17
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Gwendolyn McGinnis
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10-09-2009 17:23
From: Peggy Paperdoll Je pense que vous êtes exxagerating ......... peut-être beaucoup. [/ QUOTE]
^^ No comments
Its not necessary continuing this discuss if you have nothing more positive to tel me to help
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Peggy Paperdoll
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10-09-2009 19:17
From: Gwendolyn McGinnis From: Peggy Paperdoll Je pense que vous êtes exxagerating ......... peut-être beaucoup. [/ QUOTE]
^^ No comments
Its not necessary continuing this discuss if you have nothing more positive to tel me to help Well you asked a question. So, I'll help you out. No, LL does not hate Europeans. That's about as much help as I can give. The problems you outlined for even asking the question are all your problems. I don't believe you lost 1/4 of your inventory. I do believe most of your problems stem from the size of your inventory. One possible solution for your lost inventory is to delete your cache folder.............start all over again with a fresh cache. But it might take a few hours for your inventory to load again........so maybe do that before you go to bed some night, leave your computer on overnight, and go count your inventory again. Pulling the "poor me, I'm being slighted because I don't live in the United States" does not get sympathy from me. If LL was located in France and I had problems similar to yours, I'd do one of two things..........live with it (knowing it's just the way things are) or quit.
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Dytska Vieria
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10-09-2009 20:06
Your inventory is absolutely humongous! Try this:
Find on a quite place to log in with low lag. Clear your cache. Log in to that quite place. Stand and do NOTHING - no chatting, no changing costumes, no looking at the inventory, no shopping - NOTHING! WAIT for your inventory to load.
With 100,000 items in your inventory, it is no surprise there appears to be lost inventory. You are probably not waiting long enough for the inventory to be transferred to you. As mentioned before, it could takes several hours for your inventory to load! I would not try to repair your problems during the weekends or peak usage.
Once you see your entire inventory, a suggestion - reduce your inventory!
A smaller inventory takes less time to load after clearing cache, but if any inventory is never entirely loaded after clearing cache, it will seem that items are lost when they simply have not had enough time to load. How to reduce the inventory? Remove duplicates, rez a box and put the items in them, delete old junk and empty the trash.
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Gwendolyn McGinnis
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10-10-2009 06:59
I agree, maybe I have some very old freebies i can delete my inventory. But to tel true, I'm up to 100k items not since the last days, I had up to 100k since many past months (maybe 5-6) and before this last month of work and all very well (if I do agree my inventory need much time to complete load sometimes) .... its still loading the last month. Why this last month of no work more? Linden, we have restricted and limited to each inventory limits? Have they taken some active servers to try to reduce their expenses? What they are doing really have to turn this game so weird this last month? And you really mind my inventory problem is the cause of all delays crahs, lags and crashed all Europeans have now ? I wont fighting with nobody, I try just to tel you : we are all in the game to have fun and now the fun is gone because : too many crashe, too Many problems TP, too many difficulties to can relog after each crash, boring delays on chats .... maybe its time for me to look elswhere to take my pleasure without create more bad wave (feeling) here.
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Tegg Bode
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10-10-2009 16:48
Has your inventory got bigger in the last month? Have more people in Europe got on the same sized phone cable as last month?
I haven't noticed anything different over the last month from Australia.
You seriously need to dump some inventory, create som alts and move stuff to them or use different alts for different things like splitting business, shopping, texturing, building & scripting. 100,000 item users are going to have issues wether they are in US, Europe or Japan, it's just a lot of stuff to squeeze through a busy phone line with everyone else in Europe playing WoW at the same time.
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