Second Life Forums Archive - New 64-Bit System; Tons of Graphic Issues/Anomolies

Else Spyker

Registered User

Join date: 19 Dec 2007

Posts: 19

07-17-2009 20:09

I just finished putting together my brand new computer today;

amd phemon II quad core 3.2ghz
ati radeon hd 4870
6gb ram

The first thing I did was install all the drivers, then Second Life. Second life runs quick, things load + render insanely fast. However, I have so many graphic issues + anomolies, it's so obnoxious to play it. Random shapes, spikes, lines running across the screen, odd huge blocks and shapes coming off of players and random areas around the world. Just, the whole thing is a mess.

Everything is running like a charm; all of my drivers are up to date including video drivers, it runs with insane speed, my cpu is only 20% busy, all my temps are beyond cold [there's 5 fans in it].

I checked out the recommended + min specs for SL, and noticed that there are no new cards listed. Is it possible to have too good of a card for this?

Thanks so much for any input.

Edit: I should also mention that even if my graphics are so screwed up, I have not crashed once, and I have been on for hours.

Briana Dawson

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Join date: 23 Sep 2003

Posts: 5,855

07-17-2009 20:21

I think you need to turn off "Enable VBO" in Preferences > Graphics > Hardware Options

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Imnotgoing Sideways

Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=

Join date: 17 Nov 2007

Posts: 4,694

07-17-2009 20:22

I wouldn't blame the 64-bit hardware just yet. (^_^)

CPU: AMD (FX-74) (3000 MHz)
Memory: 8192 MB
OS Version: Professional (Build 7100)
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL Version: 3.0.0

I'm running Windows7x64 completely trouble free. What I have found out on my part is that I had to rely on some off-version Nvidia drivers for SL to run right. With the drivers supplied directly from the Forceware site I was getting glitches and crashes. (^_^)

ATI and SL have a pretty shaky reputation... There are some debug settings you can play with. I'm sure some people here know them, but, this Nvidia-head can only say that your 64-bit hardware ain't the problem. (^_^)y

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Else Spyker

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Join date: 19 Dec 2007

Posts: 19

07-17-2009 20:26

VBO did it.

Thanks so much!

Ryken Redgrave

Registered User

Join date: 26 Dec 2006

Posts: 13

07-18-2009 14:48

I was having the exact same issue (vista 64, ATI Radeon HD 4870). Turning off VBO fixed it up beautifully for me as well.

Ahhhh.... so much better.

Conor Irelund

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Join date: 22 Jul 2009

Posts: 1

07-22-2009 04:13

I had the same problem. Turning off VBO fixed it for me too! Thanks for the help!

Govindira Galatea

Just ghosting...

Join date: 6 Mar 2004

Posts: 416

07-22-2009 17:12

The clients, when newly installed, do a check for your graphics card and then set your graphics level based on the check. Why do the LL engineers miss this chronic problem for ATI users, that is, why doesn't the client check for ATI card and turn off the VBO buggers?

Oh, right. I remember now.

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Chosen Few

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Join date: 16 Jan 2004

Posts: 7,496

07-23-2009 08:07

They really need to fix the client to automatically disable VBO's whenever ATI hardware is detected. This question comes up almost every day.

In SL, ATI + VBO = trouble, almost always.

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Avrila Laval

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Join date: 2 Jul 2007

Posts: 8

07-25-2009 13:11

Actually ATi need to fix their sucky drivers...think your 4870/4890 rocks...it sure won't in openGL app's it'll be outclassed by an Nvidia 9600GT ...how poor is that?
Ati and Second Life are historically a disaster,Ati and OpenGL too.
Like to see high fps in SL....fast cpu and a midrange Nvidia card. Intel q9550/AMD 940/955 ideal....Nvidia 9800 or better . Best place to locate any Ati card is the trash X_X

Arksun Tone

Ark Designs, Sonyo

Join date: 26 Dec 2006

Posts: 91

07-26-2009 20:10

I made the mistake of switching to an ATI card for my new core i7 setup too.

An ATI HD4850 to be exact. After a while I get horrendous massive broken triangles all over the screen, almost as if the graphics card was overheating or something, yet the temperature readout says 56C (They're designed to go up to 100C+!). So its not a temp issue.

Btw, this IS with VBO turned off as well :/

New 64-Bit System; Tons of Graphic Issues/Anomolies
Else Spyker Registered User Join date: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 19	07-17-2009 20:09 I just finished putting together my brand new computer today; amd phemon II quad core 3.2ghz ati radeon hd 4870 6gb ram The first thing I did was install all the drivers, then Second Life. Second life runs quick, things load + render insanely fast. However, I have so many graphic issues + anomolies, it's so obnoxious to play it. Random shapes, spikes, lines running across the screen, odd huge blocks and shapes coming off of players and random areas around the world. Just, the whole thing is a mess. Everything is running like a charm; all of my drivers are up to date including video drivers, it runs with insane speed, my cpu is only 20% busy, all my temps are beyond cold [there's 5 fans in it]. I checked out the recommended + min specs for SL, and noticed that there are no new cards listed. Is it possible to have too good of a card for this? Thanks so much for any input. Edit: I should also mention that even if my graphics are so screwed up, I have not crashed once, and I have been on for hours.
Briana Dawson Attach to Mouth Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,855	07-17-2009 20:21 I think you need to turn off "Enable VBO" in Preferences > Graphics > Hardware Options _____________________ WooT ------------------------------ http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/
Imnotgoing Sideways Can't outlaw cute! =^-^= Join date: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 4,694	07-17-2009 20:22 I wouldn't blame the 64-bit hardware just yet. (^_^) CPU: AMD (FX-74) (3000 MHz) Memory: 8192 MB OS Version: Professional (Build 7100) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 3.0.0 I'm running Windows7x64 completely trouble free. What I have found out on my part is that I had to rely on some off-version Nvidia drivers for SL to run right. With the drivers supplied directly from the Forceware site I was getting glitches and crashes. (^_^) ATI and SL have a pretty shaky reputation... There are some debug settings you can play with. I'm sure some people here know them, but, this Nvidia-head can only say that your 64-bit hardware ain't the problem. (^_^)y _____________________ Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ferguson/54/237/94
Else Spyker Registered User Join date: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 19	07-17-2009 20:26 VBO did it. Thanks so much!
Ryken Redgrave Registered User Join date: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 13	07-18-2009 14:48 I was having the exact same issue (vista 64, ATI Radeon HD 4870). Turning off VBO fixed it up beautifully for me as well. Ahhhh.... so much better.
Conor Irelund Registered User Join date: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 1	07-22-2009 04:13 I had the same problem. Turning off VBO fixed it for me too! Thanks for the help!
Govindira Galatea Just ghosting... Join date: 6 Mar 2004 Posts: 416	07-22-2009 17:12 The clients, when newly installed, do a check for your graphics card and then set your graphics level based on the check. Why do the LL engineers miss this chronic problem for ATI users, that is, why doesn't the client check for ATI card and turn off the VBO buggers? Oh, right. I remember now. _____________________ From: Caron Warner Lieber, woolgatherer "A person who talks fast often says things she hasn't thought of yet." From: Amosis Leontopolis Thomas "The Creator has a Master Plan: Peace and Happiness through all the Land."
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	07-23-2009 08:07 They really need to fix the client to automatically disable VBO's whenever ATI hardware is detected. This question comes up almost every day. In SL, ATI + VBO = trouble, almost always. _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Avrila Laval Registered User Join date: 2 Jul 2007 Posts: 8	07-25-2009 13:11 Actually ATi need to fix their sucky drivers...think your 4870/4890 rocks...it sure won't in openGL app's it'll be outclassed by an Nvidia 9600GT ...how poor is that? Ati and Second Life are historically a disaster,Ati and OpenGL too. Like to see high fps in SL....fast cpu and a midrange Nvidia card. Intel q9550/AMD 940/955 ideal....Nvidia 9800 or better . Best place to locate any Ati card is the trash X_X
Arksun Tone Ark Designs, Sonyo Join date: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 91	07-26-2009 20:10 I made the mistake of switching to an ATI card for my new core i7 setup too. An ATI HD4850 to be exact. After a while I get horrendous massive broken triangles all over the screen, almost as if the graphics card was overheating or something, yet the temperature readout says 56C (They're designed to go up to 100C+!). So its not a temp issue. Btw, this IS with VBO turned off as well :/

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