pci(not E) graphics card upgrade

I have an older (2003) computer with the original Intel graphics that I am running SL on, slowly. I was looking to buy a new card, but SL reccomendations say a geforce Nvidia card must be 6600 or higher. With my old PC that is a pci non-express machine, I was going to get a geforce 6200 card. That seems to be the latest one that is a pci only card. My questions is, will the 6200 run SL? I am sure it has to be faster that what I have, since I have tremendous lag. Anyone running a PCI machine with this type card or slower? Help, this is my first foray into intense graphics. Thanks!!

Does your computer have a brand and model number we could use to look up the computer system?

Here's the Newegg.com list of PCI cards: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048%201069609642&name=PCI

How much are you willing to spend?

The nVidia 9500 model and an ATI 2400Pro and and ATI X1550 look like possible choices to me.

Note that you might need a bigger power supply if you upgrade the card, and that you might need an old fashioned power supply to match the rest of the old system.

You are probably aware of this but it might be time to upgrade your system. If you have any thought of doing so, obviously upgrading the old system uses money that could be used toward the new system.

Thanks Sue,

It is a HP Pavlion 503n -- looking online I could not find one that is above the 6200 that is not a PCI-E

Motherboard:
BIOS Type Phoenix (10/29/02)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
CPU Type Intel Celeron, 1700 MHz (17 x 100)
Motherboard Chipset Intel Brookdale-G i845GL
Motherboard Name TriGem Glendale
System Memory 1270 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)

Display:
3D Accelerator Intel Extreme Graphics
Monitor ViewSonic A91f+ [19" CRT] (P51042600039)
Video Adapter Intel(R) 82845G/GL Graphics Controller (64 MB)


It is a Hp Pavlion 503n

Here's one a little further up the food chain

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130499

Looking the 6200's listed on newegg, the price is just about the same and you get a little more performance to boot. I could find no spec on the minimum power supply requirement for that card but most higher performance cards require about 400 watts to run as advertised.......you might want to check into that before you make any decisions. However, the 9000 series nVidia cards are more efficient than the 8000 series and older so maybe a power supply spec is not necessary. The 9000 series also runs cooler.........and that is a big plus.

Newegg.......http://www.newegg.com/
Tiger Direct........http://www.tigerdirect.com/indexus.asp?SRCCODE=WEBGOOTD&cm_mmc_o=mH4CjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE
Magic Micro..........http://www.googlebb.magicmicro.com/

I've used all the above. Do some shopping. Read the specs and reviews. Take your time.

The model name is Pavilion, not Pavlion, in case that matters to anyone looking things up.

Here's the HP specs page:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=bph07765

I didn't see a power rating on the HP specs page, but searching for that model name and number plus "power supply" is yielding supposed replacements with ratings of 200 or 250 watts, which suggest it came with a 200 or 250 watt power supply, and would thus still have one, unless it's been upgraded.

That's a low amount of power, so you might well need to upgrade the power supply in order to upgrade the video card.

That newegg link I gave above should be linking to video cards for the PCI bus, not the PCI-E.

If you have a computer with no AGP or PCI-E slot you will be best served by replacing the computer. Particularly one that old. The cheapest computer you can get today will be faster and more powerful. It looks like the motherboard is a standard ATX design (), so you could potentially get away with just replacing the motherboard, CPU, and RAM, but... that's most of the computer.

If you keep the hard drive and optical drive, you can get a new motherboard, case, power supply, with something like an Athlon 64 X2 CPU and 2GB of RAM, for well under $200. It won't be any Core Quad Ultra Extreme, but it'll be better than what I'm using and it cost me more than that a few years ago.

going with others in this thread PCI graphics are mostly a waste of money, nothing your going to find is going to do anything worth the cash you just spent

On further thought, it occurred to me that your performance may actually go down from the integrated graphics chip to the PCI slot card, because of the low bandwidth and high latency of PCI.

Don't even bother with a pci card.

I have one old PC running a pci 128k Nvidia something and its slower than a 299 dollar Toshiba lap top with an intel intergrated card in SL.

The compaq with a agp FX5200 just barley runs better...

With no PCI-e Your really needing to upgrade the whole thing like someone said a new motherboard, cpu combo and ramm PS for a couple hundred, even find a off the shelf white box with no monitor or any thing for a couple hundred that would just need a nice fast GPU