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Casval Epoch

Wandering Samurai

Join date: 17 Dec 2002

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04-07-2004 17:41

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Casval Epoch

Wandering Samurai

Join date: 17 Dec 2002

Posts: 83

04-07-2004 17:51

Shiney still broken. Turned on Avatar Vertex.. Used for about 2-3 minutes, seems fine so far. Someone else can test other stuff.

Casval Epoch

Wandering Samurai

Join date: 17 Dec 2002

Posts: 83

04-07-2004 18:21

Posted too soon. I relogged, when I got back on, avs were all neon orange and stuff as usual. No Avatar Vertex still.

Doug Linden

Linden Lab Developer

Join date: 27 Nov 2002

Posts: 179

04-07-2004 21:07

I'm not at the office, so I don't have anything to run them on, but 4.4 is SUPPOSED to fix the mip-map corruption issues. Shiny isn't supposed to get fixed until 4.5, no word on the avatar vertex program issues yet (it may be our issue).

- Doug

Bonecrusher Slate

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Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 337

04-07-2004 22:06

From: someone

Originally posted by Casval Epoch
Posted too soon. I relogged, when I got back on, avs were all neon orange and stuff as usual. No Avatar Vertex still.

How about the texture corruption issue? Still around, banding and all?

Casval Epoch

Wandering Samurai

Join date: 17 Dec 2002

Posts: 83

04-08-2004 08:53

After playing for a while longer, I haven't yet seen the texture banding. I'll keep flying around to see if it's really gone... I'll post if I see any, if not, then I haven't, which is good.

Bonecrusher Slate

Registered User

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 337

04-08-2004 09:21

From: someone

Originally posted by Casval Epoch
After playing for a while longer, I haven't yet seen the texture banding. I'll keep flying around to see if it's really gone... I'll post if I see any, if not, then I haven't, which is good.

Whoa, if the texture banding is gone, and there are no other terrible issues, maybe I'll install 4.4

How's the framerate feel?

Cubey Terra

Aircraft Builder

Join date: 6 Sep 2003

Posts: 1,725

04-08-2004 09:23

No way *I'm* installing it if I can't see shiny objects. Blah.

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Cybin Monde

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Join date: 27 Jan 2004

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04-08-2004 09:28

i went to the ATI site and checked out the notes on what's been updated.. doesn't seem like much to help out as far as SL is concerned.. *shrugs*

/me waits for 4.5

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Chromal Brodsky

ExperimentalMetaphysicist

Join date: 24 Feb 2004

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04-08-2004 09:41

From: someone

Originally posted by Cubey Terra
No way *I'm* installing it if I can't see shiny objects. Blah.

Hmm? I'm assuming what the original person meant to say is "4.4" is as broken as "4.3," e.g.: bicubic environmental mapping only maps on the west side. Might as well upgrade, things won't get any more broken then they are already...

Hank Ramos

Lifetime Scripter

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 2,328

04-08-2004 10:32

There is still some texture corruption, but it's not as bad as it has been. *sigh*

eltee Statosky

Luskie

Join date: 23 Sep 2003

Posts: 1,258

04-08-2004 12:47

hmm.. im still on 4.3... but since 1.3.2 i've seen reflection mapping run just about properly... i thought LL had fixed it themselves

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Cubey Terra

Aircraft Builder

Join date: 6 Sep 2003

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04-08-2004 12:54

From: someone

Originally posted by Chromal Brodsky
Hmm? I'm assuming what the original person meant to say is "4.4" is as broken as "4.3," e.g.: bicubic environmental mapping only maps on the west side. Might as well upgrade, things won't get any more broken then they are already...

Hmm. Maybe what I was thinking of was different than what you're describing. When I tried Catalyst 4.3, objects were only shiny on certain surfaces. I've seen the missing reflection in the west side, but this is different. There's absolutely no shininess on most surfaces -- on those surfaces it looks like shininess is disabled.

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Moleculor Satyr

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04-08-2004 13:35

Well... most surfaces aren't shiny by themselves. They have to have it turned on to shine.

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James Linden

Linden Lab Developer

Join date: 20 Nov 2002

Posts: 115

04-08-2004 13:39

Doug may be too modest to post about it, but I think he found and fixed the "avatars go all red/neon" bug. It should come out in the next patch.

James

Oz Spade

ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand

Join date: 23 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,708

04-08-2004 13:57

Haven't tried the 4.4 drivers yet... and probly wont since shiny is still broken.

If Doug did fix that problem, he can expect me to chase him around untill I can hug him.

If he didn't fix it, he still gets a cookie for trying.

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Chromal Brodsky

ExperimentalMetaphysicist

Join date: 24 Feb 2004

Posts: 243

04-08-2004 17:43

From: someone

Originally posted by James Linden
Doug may be too modest to post about it, but I think he found and fixed the "avatars go all red/neon" bug. It should come out in the next patch.

James

If he fixed that and can find a way to make reflection mapping work, I will stop by Linden Lab and buy you all Pizza when I'm in San Francisco next. Hehe. Actually, I may do that anyway.

I'll buy Doug a beer regardless.

James Linden

Linden Lab Developer

Join date: 20 Nov 2002

Posts: 115

04-08-2004 19:22

I'll bet Doug has already posted about this, but the shiny-only-on-west is an ATI driver bug that is supposed to be fixed in Catalyst 4.5, due out next month.

But fixed by ATI because Doug bugged them.

James

Cybin Monde

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Join date: 27 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,468

waiting for 4.5 ..

04-08-2004 19:50

James,

thanks for the info.. i was wondering when that was due..

and that's just too cool.. ATI fixed something because Doug bugged them.. there is a fix specifically for SL! YAY!

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FuRaz Chung

2Stylez Urban Wear

Join date: 25 Mar 2004

Posts: 27

Happy!

04-10-2004 04:00

I'm so happy! I'm filled with joy! My Mobility 9000 doesn't lock up anymore! I've been playing for like 3 hours, constructing, editing, flying around, talking to people and I still haven't experienced any lockups nor texture errors!

I'm using the Omega Driver version of the Cat 4.4 drivers, because Fujitsu Siemens hasn't released a new driver for like ages! But everything works 100% as it seems!

Very well done Ati and the Lindens (if you guys had any influence in this release)

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Casval Epoch Wandering Samurai Join date: 17 Dec 2002 Posts: 83	04-07-2004 17:41 http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/winxp/radeonwdm-xp.html?type=xp&prodType=graphic&prod=productsXPdriver&submit.x=14&submit.y=14&submit=GO%21
Casval Epoch Wandering Samurai Join date: 17 Dec 2002 Posts: 83	04-07-2004 17:51 Shiney still broken. Turned on Avatar Vertex.. Used for about 2-3 minutes, seems fine so far. Someone else can test other stuff.
Casval Epoch Wandering Samurai Join date: 17 Dec 2002 Posts: 83	04-07-2004 18:21 Posted too soon. I relogged, when I got back on, avs were all neon orange and stuff as usual. No Avatar Vertex still.
Doug Linden Linden Lab Developer Join date: 27 Nov 2002 Posts: 179	04-07-2004 21:07 I'm not at the office, so I don't have anything to run them on, but 4.4 is SUPPOSED to fix the mip-map corruption issues. Shiny isn't supposed to get fixed until 4.5, no word on the avatar vertex program issues yet (it may be our issue). - Doug
Bonecrusher Slate Registered User Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 337	04-07-2004 22:06 From: someone Originally posted by Casval Epoch Posted too soon. I relogged, when I got back on, avs were all neon orange and stuff as usual. No Avatar Vertex still. How about the texture corruption issue? Still around, banding and all?
Casval Epoch Wandering Samurai Join date: 17 Dec 2002 Posts: 83	04-08-2004 08:53 After playing for a while longer, I haven't yet seen the texture banding. I'll keep flying around to see if it's really gone... I'll post if I see any, if not, then I haven't, which is good.
Bonecrusher Slate Registered User Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 337	04-08-2004 09:21 From: someone Originally posted by Casval Epoch After playing for a while longer, I haven't yet seen the texture banding. I'll keep flying around to see if it's really gone... I'll post if I see any, if not, then I haven't, which is good. Whoa, if the texture banding is gone, and there are no other terrible issues, maybe I'll install 4.4 How's the framerate feel?
Cubey Terra Aircraft Builder Join date: 6 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,725	04-08-2004 09:23 No way I'm installing it if I can't see shiny objects. Blah. _____________________ C U B E Y · T E R R A planes · helicopters · blimps · balloons · skydiving · submarines Available at Abbotts Aerodrome and XstreetSL.com
Cybin Monde Resident Moderator (?) Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,468	... 04-08-2004 09:28 i went to the ATI site and checked out the notes on what's been updated.. doesn't seem like much to help out as far as SL is concerned.. shrugs /me waits for 4.5 _____________________ "We, as developers, are doing the easy part – building the scaffolding for a new world. You, as the engines of creation, must breathe life into it." - Philip Linden "There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971) SecondSpace (http://groups.myspace.com/secondspace) : MySpace group for SLers.
Chromal Brodsky ExperimentalMetaphysicist Join date: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 243	04-08-2004 09:41 From: someone Originally posted by Cubey Terra *No way I'm* installing it if I can't see shiny objects. Blah.** Hmm? I'm assuming what the original person meant to say is "4.4" is as broken as "4.3," e.g.: bicubic environmental mapping only maps on the west side. Might as well upgrade, things won't get any more broken then they are already...
Hank Ramos Lifetime Scripter Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,328	04-08-2004 10:32 There is still some texture corruption, but it's not as bad as it has been. sigh
eltee Statosky Luskie Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,258	04-08-2004 12:47 hmm.. im still on 4.3... but since 1.3.2 i've seen reflection mapping run just about properly... i thought LL had fixed it themselves _____________________ wash, rinse, repeat
Cubey Terra Aircraft Builder Join date: 6 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,725	04-08-2004 12:54 From: someone Originally posted by Chromal Brodsky Hmm? I'm assuming what the original person meant to say is "4.4" is as broken as "4.3," e.g.: bicubic environmental mapping only maps on the west side. Might as well upgrade, things won't get any more broken then they are already... Hmm. Maybe what I was thinking of was different than what you're describing. When I tried Catalyst 4.3, objects were only shiny on certain surfaces. I've seen the missing reflection in the west side, but this is different. There's absolutely no shininess on most surfaces -- on those surfaces it looks like shininess is disabled. _____________________ C U B E Y · T E R R A planes · helicopters · blimps · balloons · skydiving · submarines Available at Abbotts Aerodrome and XstreetSL.com
Moleculor Satyr Fireflies! Join date: 5 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,650	04-08-2004 13:35 Well... most surfaces aren't shiny by themselves. They have to have it turned on to shine. _____________________ </sarcasm>
James Linden Linden Lab Developer Join date: 20 Nov 2002 Posts: 115	04-08-2004 13:39 Doug may be too modest to post about it, but I think he found and fixed the "avatars go all red/neon" bug. It should come out in the next patch. James
Oz Spade ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,708	04-08-2004 13:57 Haven't tried the 4.4 drivers yet... and probly wont since shiny is still broken. If Doug did fix that problem, he can expect me to chase him around untill I can hug him. If he didn't fix it, he still gets a cookie for trying. _____________________ "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
Chromal Brodsky ExperimentalMetaphysicist Join date: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 243	04-08-2004 17:43 From: someone Originally posted by James Linden Doug may be too modest to post about it, but I think he found and fixed the "avatars go all red/neon" bug. It should come out in the next patch. James If he fixed that and can find a way to make reflection mapping work, I will stop by Linden Lab and buy you all Pizza when I'm in San Francisco next. Hehe. Actually, I may do that anyway. I'll buy Doug a beer regardless.
James Linden Linden Lab Developer Join date: 20 Nov 2002 Posts: 115	04-08-2004 19:22 I'll bet Doug has already posted about this, but the shiny-only-on-west is an ATI driver bug that is supposed to be fixed in Catalyst 4.5, due out next month. But fixed by ATI because Doug bugged them. James
Cybin Monde Resident Moderator (?) Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,468	waiting for 4.5 .. 04-08-2004 19:50 James, thanks for the info.. i was wondering when that was due.. and that's just too cool.. ATI fixed something because Doug bugged them.. there is a fix specifically for SL! YAY! _____________________ "We, as developers, are doing the easy part – building the scaffolding for a new world. You, as the engines of creation, must breathe life into it." - Philip Linden "There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971) SecondSpace (http://groups.myspace.com/secondspace) : MySpace group for SLers.
FuRaz Chung 2Stylez Urban Wear Join date: 25 Mar 2004 Posts: 27	Happy! 04-10-2004 04:00 I'm so happy! I'm filled with joy! My Mobility 9000 doesn't lock up anymore! I've been playing for like 3 hours, constructing, editing, flying around, talking to people and I still haven't experienced any lockups nor texture errors! I'm using the Omega Driver version of the Cat 4.4 drivers, because Fujitsu Siemens hasn't released a new driver for like ages! But everything works 100% as it seems! Very well done Ati and the Lindens (if you guys had any influence in this release)