Age Verification?

All I have to say is I'm disgusted!

I had to submit my personal information over the internet after what, 3-4 years on and off in second life to view a movie? Pure, and utter disgust! I want to remain anonymous as possible on the internet and providing where I live, my birth date, and some of my social is not what I call "anonymous"it's going to go out to all the companies in second life that linden labs has sold out too)!

I don't care to hear the pathetic excuses about why this new system is in place. It NEEDS TO BE REMOVED! I agreed to the TOS as well as everyone else who signed up and that should have been enough! I am more than capable to monitor my own actions in second life and enjoy the freedom(which has been eroding away in leaps in bounds, no more gambling?) of this virtual world.

I guess it's almost time for Second Life to beach itself and another online virtual world to spring up in it's place. This is just sad!

and no, there are no other sections to post this under, there is no "complaints" section that I could see and no posted e-mail address for the company.

What happened?

Anytime someone wants to enter an "adult" area now(which can be nothing, but still marked as mature) you have to have your account age verified. even if you want to watch a horror movie.

And now I see you have to re-login everytime you teleport to a different adult area.

I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS CENSORSHIP!

And you had to create an alt account to vent off?
I've been in tons of places and never encountered an area where age-verified accounts were needed. Maybe I just didn't hit the right spots yet *lol*

You're not searching enough. What 'adult' areas I DO go to... None of them require age-ver. In fact, to this day, that age-ver test parcel in I World Island is the ONLY age ver parcel I've ever seen on the grid. (^_^)y

Some land owners can put this on about land now like payment on file info, so its not LL its the owner of the sim who has done it!!

"You have already verified your age"

And then I thought age verify didn't even work when you did! go through the age verification part on your account. It didn't on a stupid parcel near me in one place, it threw up that ban msg.

I've never encountered such a thing; the implementation of age verification is on prolonged hold if not abandoned as far as I know. I probably wouldn't do it, although I'm really not sure why I'd dig in my heels. It sounds like this was a rare and avoidable peculiarity.

I don't know where you ever got this idea: You don't.



It's not censorship, though. If I owned land, I for one would set that flag to keep out griefers and children (I'm not sure there's that much of a difference) regardless of content.

Good lord, is it that time again?

We're well past-due on an "Age Verification" thread, aren't we?

OP? "it's going to go out to all the companies in second life that linden labs has sold out too)!
"

Do you have evidence of this, or is it just a baseless assumption?

Just checking.

There was talk of merging the Teen Grid with the Adult Grid awhile back and I for one would not want children as young as 13 entering some of the Mature places here in SL.
For that reason I support Age Verification in SL.

OP, the information you enter for age verification is encrypted and on a secure site (https://) and used only for the purpose outlined … to verify your age.
Hell they don’t even ask for your full SSN, just the last 4 numbers. Its not like they are asking for credit card or billing information.


Whuh? o.O


Ctrl+Q

Surely that kind of crazy idea will remain just talk.

Actually there were a number of people in support of the combining the two.
Many RL families play SL and would like to extend that sense of family to one grid.

You know… mom, dad, junior and missy, all dancing around sculpty trees together…
good times

That's what we need private grids for. A standalone sim on your home server.

They had that in Snow Crash.

And Idoru.

Come on, Linden Labs, I want the future already. I want to jack in, upload, transcend, even if I have to give up my toes to do it.

That's what osgrid is for, among other things.

Unless it's supported by Linden Labs there's exactly 0% chance of being able to log in with my real avatar.

It's being worked on. Look into hypergridding. LR also has an island in osGrid (oddly enough, it's also the only LR-operated sims that are running Windows).

Technically it's not unreasonably difficult. The legal issues are the ones that I don't see getting resolved any time soon.

My problem with the grid merge idea is that, in all of the alternative lifestyles in SL, there is a subset that WANTS to find kids here. At the moment, it's luck of the draw since we can all pretty much lie about our age, as is. (=_=)

I find it interesting that people have such a major problem with fake depictions of kid cybering as seen in [sexual]ageplay, but when it comes time to talk about merging RL kids and adults on the same grid the subject suddenly goes out the door. It's either "Oh, it's been going on in IRC for years" or it's dodged with the "Just keep them away from the pr0nz" speech. (=_=)

I'm quite happy and pleased that SL was and is an adult-only grid. In a way, it allows us the freedoms we have now and deal, in relative confidence, with people old enough to legally tolerate many of the activities that go on in the grid. (^_^)

Sure, I would like to see age verification work before I consider it valid for anything. But, age-ver or not. A merged grid will be a dangerous place for many people... Adults and kids alike. (>_<

Obviously you will stand for it and already have being you verified. lol



Age verification is OPTIONAL to whoever owns the land. You want to blame anyone blame the land owner.

As far as I can tell from OpenSim, the only reason it's not happening now is purely techincal. The asset servers SL uses and those that OpenSim use are too different right now. I would estimate it will take some time to decide how they want to do it. There have been rumors floating around that LR might adopt OpenSimulator themselves and migrate the asset servers to that platform; if this happens, hypergrid would be trivial.

As for the legal aspect, LR's under no contractual obligation to enforce any limitations you want to create; that's entirely your responsibility. Nor is there any gaurantee that any restrictions are necessarily universal going forward.

I'm pretty sure hypergridding will happen, even if restriction bit support is an afterthought. The former is in too much demand for the latter to stand in the way.

When you upload an asset to SL, you grant them the right to distribute it as part of the Second Life (tm) service. You don't grant them or anyone else rights to use that asset on other grids. Even if you distribute them full perms, unless you explicitly license them for other purposes (as I do with my BSD licensed content, or Francis Chung did with the GPL on Franimation Overrider), LL does not have the right to distribute it further.
If they don't change the TOS to allow the use of uploaded assets on other services, they can be sued (legitimately) for distributing assets in conjunction with competing services... and even then that won't apply retroactively to existing assets.

The legal landmine is much trickier than the technical one.

That's a pretty big "if." LR has historically changed the TOS to accomodate what they're working on.

The TOS describes a license grant *to* Linden Labs. They do not own the content uploaded to SL, they own an unlimited license to use it within SL. They can change the terms of that agreement, but the new TOS will only apply to new content.

Okay... Did it take me too long to catch on to the irony of that name... Want Essex? (O.o)

OMG! That's an epic funny name! XD It blows my goofball name out of the water. =^-^=

/me gets to work trying to get an alt "Internetisfor Essex". (^_^)y