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Kyle Chaos

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Join date: 23 Oct 2003

Posts: 50

11-22-2003 19:44

My game has always been crashing but the worst and most frequent one is when my screen goes black, my monitor light blinks, and my computer stops responding. It's so bad that I have to shutdown my computer after which happens every 5 to 30 minutes!

Does anyone know what I can do to stop this? I've reported the bug many times but no help/response/solutions E-mail's from anyone.

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Darwin Appleby

I Was Beaten With Satan

Join date: 14 Mar 2003

Posts: 2,779

11-22-2003 20:07

SNOWCRASH! Well, not really, but it woulda been cool if it was.

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Oz Spade

ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand

Join date: 23 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,708

11-23-2003 05:57

Hehe, snowcrash, I'm currently working on my own version of The Black Sun

Kyle, your problem sounds simular to the one I was having, if you have an ATI card, or any card really, try turning off AGP Graphics Acceleration (Edit -> Preferences -> Options -> *uncheck*), hope that helps some, turning off AGP pretty much solved my problem.

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Kyle Chaos

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Join date: 23 Oct 2003

Posts: 50

11-23-2003 07:38

Whats SNOWCRASH?

hmmm... so what does APG Acceleration do anyways?

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Don OFlynn

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Join date: 27 Sep 2003

Posts: 130

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11-23-2003 10:24

Not much for me I can turn it off or on and I do not see any difference. This is using a Gforece 5200.

I wish I knew what snowcrash was but it does not sound good.

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Oz Spade

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Join date: 23 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,708

11-25-2003 15:18

Snow Crash is a book by Neal Stephenson, more specificly in the book Snow Crash is a "drug" and a "virus", the first of its kind made in a virtual reality program called the Metaverse which is very simular to SL. What Snow Crash does is displays a series of 1's and 0's which are fed into your subconcious and then cause you to effectivly end up like a vegetable, what it does to your computer is make it "Snow Crash" which means all your screen displays is "snow", the type you'd see if you turn your tv to a station and it has bad reception and its all black and white fuzzyness. My description isn't the best and most likely isn't 100% accurate, but thats the basic idea of what was meant by Snow Crash. In the book Snow Crash is also a real life drug too. Also the club The Black Sun is the most famous club in the Metaverse.

As for what AGP does... I've no idea, I've been trying to figure that out, I figure based on what people have said that theres something built into some video cards, and turning this feature on will make the video cards use it, which will make it work faster, thereby making SL faster.

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Taylor Portocarrero

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Join date: 29 Oct 2003

Posts: 42

11-25-2003 21:52

Hey Ozzie!

AGP allows your video card to use regular system memory for storing textures, and has a fast path to get to the memory it's stored in, basically. That's why SL recommends it is used due to the massive amt of textures that needs stored, preferable in memory than on hard drive. The rate of throughput of the texture access is relative to the XX capabilities of your system (ie 2X, 4X, 8X AGP). But if your AGP driver (not your video card driver) is not good or something I spose it could mean worse performance. U can mess with the AGP cache on your motherboard. Typically it should be set to either double your video card memory, or half your system ram if u have a lot. It doesnt 'reserve' the system ram (from what I have read) but says it's okay to use up to that much if it's free while a program is running. I have seen by default AGP on some older motherboards set to like 16 or 32MB, which would probably not help SL performance much noticable when u have a 128MB video card and a gig of ram. In that case I would try 256 or 512 AGP cache.

- Taylor

Kyle Chaos

Member

Join date: 23 Oct 2003

Posts: 50

12-02-2003 12:12

I would use APG if it didnt crash my game ¬_¬

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Awful Game Crash...
Kyle Chaos Member Join date: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 50	11-22-2003 19:44 My game has always been crashing but the worst and most frequent one is when my screen goes black, my monitor light blinks, and my computer stops responding. It's so bad that I have to shutdown my computer after which happens every 5 to 30 minutes! Does anyone know what I can do to stop this? I've reported the bug many times but no help/response/solutions E-mail's from anyone. _____________________ "Before you make a bad comment about someone you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way you'll be a mile away AND you'll have their shoes!"
Darwin Appleby I Was Beaten With Satan Join date: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 2,779	11-22-2003 20:07 SNOWCRASH! Well, not really, but it woulda been cool if it was. _____________________ Touche.
Oz Spade ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,708	11-23-2003 05:57 Hehe, snowcrash, I'm currently working on my own version of The Black Sun Kyle, your problem sounds simular to the one I was having, if you have an ATI card, or any card really, try turning off AGP Graphics Acceleration (Edit -> Preferences -> Options -> uncheck), hope that helps some, turning off AGP pretty much solved my problem. _____________________ "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
Kyle Chaos Member Join date: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 50	11-23-2003 07:38 Whats SNOWCRASH? hmmm... so what does APG Acceleration do anyways? _____________________ "Before you make a bad comment about someone you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way you'll be a mile away AND you'll have their shoes!"
Don OFlynn Senior Member Join date: 27 Sep 2003 Posts: 130	for Kyle 11-23-2003 10:24 Not much for me I can turn it off or on and I do not see any difference. This is using a Gforece 5200. I wish I knew what snowcrash was but it does not sound good. _____________________ my new home Aqua 37,222. You might see me a an F or M. Deal with it or move on.
Oz Spade ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,708	11-25-2003 15:18 Snow Crash is a book by Neal Stephenson, more specificly in the book Snow Crash is a "drug" and a "virus", the first of its kind made in a virtual reality program called the Metaverse which is very simular to SL. What Snow Crash does is displays a series of 1's and 0's which are fed into your subconcious and then cause you to effectivly end up like a vegetable, what it does to your computer is make it "Snow Crash" which means all your screen displays is "snow", the type you'd see if you turn your tv to a station and it has bad reception and its all black and white fuzzyness. My description isn't the best and most likely isn't 100% accurate, but thats the basic idea of what was meant by Snow Crash. In the book Snow Crash is also a real life drug too. Also the club The Black Sun is the most famous club in the Metaverse. As for what AGP does... I've no idea, I've been trying to figure that out, I figure based on what people have said that theres something built into some video cards, and turning this feature on will make the video cards use it, which will make it work faster, thereby making SL faster. _____________________ "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
Taylor Portocarrero Registered User Join date: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 42	11-25-2003 21:52 Hey Ozzie! AGP allows your video card to use regular system memory for storing textures, and has a fast path to get to the memory it's stored in, basically. That's why SL recommends it is used due to the massive amt of textures that needs stored, preferable in memory than on hard drive. The rate of throughput of the texture access is relative to the XX capabilities of your system (ie 2X, 4X, 8X AGP). But if your AGP driver (not your video card driver) is not good or something I spose it could mean worse performance. U can mess with the AGP cache on your motherboard. Typically it should be set to either double your video card memory, or half your system ram if u have a lot. It doesnt 'reserve' the system ram (from what I have read) but says it's okay to use up to that much if it's free while a program is running. I have seen by default AGP on some older motherboards set to like 16 or 32MB, which would probably not help SL performance much noticable when u have a 128MB video card and a gig of ram. In that case I would try 256 or 512 AGP cache. - Taylor
Kyle Chaos Member Join date: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 50	12-02-2003 12:12 I would use APG if it didnt crash my game ¬_¬ _____________________ "Before you make a bad comment about someone you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way you'll be a mile away AND you'll have their shoes!"

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